EPTAre you guys still here? Where is everybdoy?
@alakaspam
You especially need to get in the thread and start posting some reads.
@hapa
Who would you rather lynch between Oats and yamato? I think they're both scum.
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sciberbia
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Are you guys still here? Where is everybdoy? @alakaspam You especially need to get in the thread and start posting some reads. @hapa Who would you rather lynch between Oats and yamato? I think they're both scum. | ||
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sciberbia
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On September 02 2013 11:16 Tutankoopa wrote: Sure lets talk about Oats. People have been questioning his flip flop but there's an explanation he gave in his D1 filter that's currently being overlooked. Did or do you know what it is? No please tell | ||
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On September 02 2013 12:44 Tutankoopa wrote: He said he thought I'm town because he thought he knew who I am. Do you think this is a justification that scum would make up? It suggests that he was trying to figure out my alignment. I believe he was talking to marv. Can you quote the post you're talking about? I don't remember reading anything of the sort. | ||
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Can you respond to my last post regarding Oats? + Show Spoiler [last post] + On September 02 2013 12:48 sciberbia wrote: Can you quote the post you're talking about? I don't remember reading anything of the sort. | ||
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On September 02 2013 13:59 Tutankoopa wrote: Yeah we talked about it, but I reached a point where I had to either accept that you thought FT was likely mafia, or decide I don't believe you. I don't believe you, so I don't know if that line of inquiry is still productive. Right now I am most interested in your read on me, specifically how it's changed from the very start of N1 until now. @TK Also we have reached the crux of the matter regarding your case on Onegu. I find it quite believable that Onegu would think FirmTofu is likely scum based on the posts (or lack thereof) that were in FirmTofu's filter. In my last game, Smurf Mini, we lynched JPwertee partially for insisting that another player was almost definitely scum based on the singular post in the filter. JPwertee was town (and he was right). Also I think Onegu is town based off a bunch of other stuff in his filter. | ||
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On September 02 2013 14:42 Tutankoopa wrote: It's not stated explicitly, but the first two posts show that oats was focused on my identity. Going so far as to suggest he can prove I'm town made me wonder if he stumbled upon some tell that made him very confident in his town read. What I quoted strikes me as a town motivated series of posts. @TK I really doubt he knows who you are and he definitely didn't write or imply that anywhere in the thread. I'm pretty sure his thoughts about your identity have nothing to do with why he 'thinks' you are town. If they did he would have said so when I pressed him for reasons why you are "obv town" to him. And yea it made me wonder too which is why i pressed him to explain why he is so confident you are town, but he didn't point to anything I found very believable. Go back and reread our conversation. He doesn't mention anything about your identity. I don't see how this is a towntell at all. It's just irrelevant. | ||
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On September 02 2013 14:55 Tutankoopa wrote: I have reason to suspect that Oats would be capable of making connections like I suggested. I guess I need to hear from him about exactly what those posts were trying to accomplish. I literally was drilling him to explain why he back-flipped on you. If he is town he surely would have given any reason he has. He didn't say anything about your smurf identity or "making connections" (not really sure what you mean by this). Please do press him to explain when you get the chance. I'll go through Onegu's filter now and explain to you why I think he's town. | ||
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Why I think Onegu is town His posts are blunt and direct. He isn't wishy/washy. When asked something, he doesn't skirt around the issue but addresses the question head on and makes it clear where he stands. + Show Spoiler [examples] + On August 29 2013 20:02 Onegu wrote: Yes I am leaning scum on dabears, guess I should have been more clear on that if I had to choose . Also from the whole sn0 thing and how rayne reacted made me feel town on him. FT needs to get back in here as he has done nothing. I also agree with rayne that sn0s post is townie. On August 30 2013 02:22 Onegu wrote: I actually agree with this post alot, and it gives me heavy town read from yamato, as I have only played with him being mafia and he had zero posts like this. I dont know thier meta as well as alot of people, but I do like how hapa called me out with reasons, while marv just said I would be the second person he would lynch because he doesnt know where I am going. On August 30 2013 14:56 Onegu wrote: Still working on catching up on everything my son woke up so I took a break to feed him. Will go through filters on syl and hopeless and post in depth thought. As for the whole you/marv/yamato thing, seems null all the way around in those posts, could see it all the way from either alignment. So I am keeping my first reads as Yamato as town you null to slight town, marv null to slight scummy. On August 30 2013 15:46 Onegu wrote: Ok I got it, I think you are null to slightly town I dont see what hopeless found scummy in you. I think hopeless has a very good chance of flipping scum. For example this post by you I liked your response and thought you were clear amd agree with the rayne thing. Also when people went after you for posting before being caught up is dumb I do it all the time and had no real problem with it. On August 30 2013 17:56 Onegu wrote: This post got me off of debears as a lynch canidate for the time being, I dont see scum saying they dont read the thread. While its not concrete and I dont agree with his hopeless read. At this point I dont think he is a good day one one lynch as I believe hopeless and FT are better lynches at this point. On September 02 2013 13:36 Onegu wrote: My main two are alakaslam and syl. I liked the case on hopeless then alakaslam has done nothing to change that thought as he has lurked and spammed, and I have made my points on syl and he hasnt responded to them at all. I am leaning town on oats, this is basicly how he has always played as town in the games I have been with him in but its always difficult to get a solid read on him. After the post by yamato that I really liked he has been like the only person to try to figure out your and marvs alignment which makes me lean town on him. That being said everything he has said about you I cant figure out you or marv, null on both of you. Debears I believe and he is the closest thing I have confirmed town I believe his claims and he has played pro town. Rayn is likely SK or town I dont see him flipping scum as he has been playing way out there and he didnt really do that in GoT as scum but made plays like this in NWM as town with fake claims, his vet claim is most likely legit but doesnt mean his alignment. Tutan I had a slight town read earlier but his case on me didnt make much sense to me as I pushed one of my scum reads and he attacked me for that, I am back to null on him. sn0 I would like him to answer the questions I put to him about his alakaslam lynch thoughts. And scib Im not sure going to look at his filter soon. He isn't afraid to take unpopular opinions, call people out for bullshit, or disagree with vocal posters. + Show Spoiler [examples] + On August 29 2013 18:28 Onegu wrote: This post supposed to mean something? You said you were reading the thread then you post this? On August 29 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote: I know you are asking hapa but like I said before, that is just something that can be hidden behind as an excuse for bad posts. Him being drunk shouldnt change the read of him, a bad post is a bad post. On August 30 2013 02:16 Onegu wrote: This is all you got? Either drop the sarcasm and make a response that is actually a counterpoint. Or if not sarcasm move on to something else. Not he got me. On August 30 2013 02:22 Onegu wrote: I actually agree with this post alot, and it gives me heavy town read from yamato, as I have only played with him being mafia and he had zero posts like this. I dont know thier meta as well as alot of people, but I do like how hapa called me out with reasons, while marv just said I would be the second person he would lynch because he doesnt know where I am going. On August 30 2013 15:27 Onegu wrote: @sciberbia 1 Why is this a scum tell? The people you talk about are vets, and he has pushed his scum read even though people other people disagree with him, although he hasnt done it well, I have done the same thing as town in GoT, I made a case and when people I considered vets disagreed I didnt push it as hard anymore but I never dropped my scumread on him (he was scum btw :p) I think this should be null On August 31 2013 03:38 Onegu wrote: It shouldnt matter he is a replacement, sorry you replaced someone who is scummy tough luck. And why does a FT lynch waste the day? It gets rid of someone who has a good chance at being scum, and its not like everything was wasted the discusion that was made today is still valid. He brings interesting new insight/analysis to the thread, and has demonstrated that he is reading and analyzing filters. + Show Spoiler [examples] + On August 30 2013 15:27 Onegu wrote: @sciberbia 1 Why is this a scum tell? The people you talk about are vets, and he has pushed his scum read even though people other people disagree with him, although he hasnt done it well, I have done the same thing as town in GoT, I made a case and when people I considered vets disagreed I didnt push it as hard anymore but I never dropped my scumread on him (he was scum btw :p) I think this should be null On August 31 2013 03:34 Onegu wrote: Says he is ok with a FT lynch here. Gives reasons for voteing me here without point out any posts. Again says he is ok with a FT lynch Now look at the second line of why I am scummy. And I gave reasons for him being a good lynch, ie lurking, his scum meta for calling out rayne. Scy looks like he is just comeimg after me as a easy lynch target without any solid reasons other than sheeping what other people have points out about me. I would be ok with a scy lynch, but for the time being FT needs to die, and alakaslam has done nothing to change my read off of hopeless. I am ok with any of these three lynches. On September 01 2013 23:01 Onegu wrote: Sn0 you go from this to. This and then back to Why did you have the middle post? On September 02 2013 12:48 Onegu wrote: Hey I habe been thinking about the rayn and debears thing, and its possible one of then IS the SK. SK normally have one shot immune or green to checks and I have seen them have both also. Somfor example scum shoots SK debears who is immune and SK debears shoots Vet rayn. Doesnt this make a bit moe sense then 2 town vets? And since no one has claimed vig yet its more likely a SK or Maf vig. We should know tonight though. I could probably have found a few more examples but I think I have enough for you to see what I'm talking about. | ||
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sciberbia
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I was just rereading some Oats stuff and stumbled upon this which I thought you'd find interesting. On September 01 2013 15:47 Oatsmaster wrote: I thought FT's miminal posting made him scum. So unless you are going to reverse your read on Oats, you must concede that it's possible for a townie to think FT was scum based on his posting, right? | ||
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sciberbia
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Well no shit we already knew whoever shot you is a moron  There was a fairly easy to find veteran breadcrumb in your filter.Seeing as hardly anything has happened today, my reads haven't changed much from the end of N1 + Show Spoiler [N1 reads] + On September 01 2013 07:59 sciberbia wrote: Reread some filters and just want to have my most current reads out there in case I am shot. townie as fuck --- scib, rayn, hapa probably town --- debears. marv thinking town ---- onegu leaning town ----- tk, sn0 hard to say -------- syl, slam, yamato scummy ------------ oats Yea marv looks pretty townie to me based on his D1 play. He's been pretty useless so far D2 but to be fair so has pretty much everyone else. | ||
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Much appreciated. Please try not to leave the thread again until you have read a few filters, given a few reads, given explanations for those reads, and given your thoughts on who we should lynch today. We really need all the contributions we can get from you right now. | ||
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sciberbia
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Yamato looks like scum to me because
But I'd be more interested in hearing your thoughts on other people than further thoughts on yamato. I'd love it if you could find someone you think is scummy. Thanks for the follow-up explanation by the way. That was more helpful. | ||
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Yes I'm guilty of maintaining double-standards. Anyway I'm totally exhausted and going to bed but please keep the reads coming. Also if you could maybe consolidate your posts a little bit instead of just +1'ing etc that would be great | ||
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On September 02 2013 23:10 debears wrote: @Scribs When did you find my breadcrumb? When I reread your filter after you asked for my read on you. I hinted at it in my next post. I also put a period after your name in my reads post at the end of N1. On August 30 2013 04:59 debears wrote: Scribs what is your read on me right meow? On August 30 2013 05:24 sciberbia wrote: @debears Stop talking to me. My read on you is either really annoying scum or extremely dumb town. I think I'm leaning dumb town. Honestly if you are town, you should be grateful as fuck I'm not scum or I'd be mislynching the shit out of you right now. | ||
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sciberbia
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Can you comment on the conversation that TK and I had last night? He seems to think you are town because ??? I'm not even sure. Just explain whatever posts he quoted in your defense. On September 02 2013 14:42 Tutankoopa wrote: It's not stated explicitly, but the first two posts show that oats was focused on my identity. Going so far as to suggest he can prove I'm town made me wonder if he stumbled upon some tell that made him very confident in his town read. What I quoted strikes me as a town motivated series of posts. On September 02 2013 14:55 Tutankoopa wrote: I have reason to suspect that Oats would be capable of making connections like I suggested. I guess I need to hear from him about exactly what those posts were trying to accomplish. | ||
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On September 03 2013 05:04 Hapahauli wrote: As far as my read on Yamato goes, I'm still annoyed that he's posting so little, but I find it hard to believe he'd still be attacking me at this stage of the game as scum. Well seeing as you called him town for doing it on D1 I don't see why as scum he'd stop #WIFOM What did you think of this post? Doesn't seem very genuine to me. On August 30 2013 08:55 yamato77 wrote: You're fine. Scum Hapa would have folded his cards by now if I was really right Who folds their cards as scum? I don't see why he suddenly decided you weren't scum anymore. | ||
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Since Oats isn't here I'll just tell you what he will say See this post 6 minutes later On August 31 2013 06:10 Oatsmaster wrote: under no pressure, doesnt post. comes in, pokes a bit which shows he has time, AND DOESNT DO SHIT. Random vote on a dude that is currently at the top if im not mistaken with no explanation or anything. FT is not a lurker, FT is not posting anything helpful. Like he doesnt want to find scum, he just doesnt really care because a town lynch looks like its happening, TK/hopeless maybe. | ||
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On September 03 2013 05:49 Hapahauli wrote: Hm yeah FT did have that burst of posting between that time. I'm still at such a loss on what to do with Oats. Just can't tell if his inactivity is due to business or scuminess. It boggles my mind, but Oats has somehow developed a meta in which he is unlynchable. Scib Oats is a bad day 1 lynch he will give himself away later. OK scib Oats has done some scummy shit, but if he's scum he'll do even more scummy shit later. Actually scib the more seemingly scummy shit he does, the more it means he's actually town. Actually scib the only real way to read Oats is based on meta and his general posting style. Oh Oats's posting style is scummy as shit? Maybe he's just busy. Like I don't understand what Oats has to do for you guys to be willing to lynch him. | ||
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On September 01 2013 22:50 yamato77 wrote: Null: Onegu, Sn0, Slam Probable anti-town: Oats, TK I'll substantiate my reads on the null/anti-town players in short order. On September 02 2013 10:04 yamato77 wrote: @scib I will give those reads, probably in the morning. I am unfortunately out of time right now. ~~comes back to thread~~ ~~writes a bunch of posts about hapa~~ On September 03 2013 02:47 yamato77 wrote: I have to sleep at some point, fuck ~~ leaves thread again ~~ lynch is in two hours zzzz Like COME ON. Oats could actually be lynched today. Oats is in his top two scumspects. He writes nothing at all about Oats and shows no support for the wagon. Instead writes a bunch of posts about hapa knowing full well he probably will not be lynched and then he fucks off. Yamato's game reminds me of my scum game. He's out of the thread 90% of the time. He re-enters the thread with some massive post about something not particularly relevant or important and then fucks off again. | ||
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I still think 1-2 out of Oats and Yamato are scum. I've found enough things about Syl that strike me as possible towntells that I don't want to lynch him. I'm not sure what to think about Spam. Some of his posts give me a gut town feel. My gut doesn't want to lynch him even though my brain can't think of a great argument why not. I'm really uninterested in lynching Hapa. I thought his D1 was really town and I don't have time right now to dig through all his past filters and compare it to this one. And I don't trust yamato at all. @TK What do you make of the fact I pointed out that Oats just like Onegu says he thought FT was scum based on his minimal posting? | ||
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