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On September 26 2013 07:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The thing is I'm so not confident as town.
And if I want to lynch somebody for doing distinctly non-town things people are going to shout: "Town can do that too! He's just bad town! That's so obviously not-town oriented that scum would never do such a thing!"
The problem is that they are probably right, and we end up with a mislynch. If I can't trust that characteristics associated with being mafia or being not-town are true, how on Earth can I push a correct lynch?
LM is playing not-town. So therefore he should be mafia, am I missing something here?
And Koshi, please fuck off kindly.
You don't have a sense of humor.
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Does literally no one want to vote VE?
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@ObviousOne
Yeah, this is never going to happen. The part that TL will start playing better because we plynch.
If you want TL mafia become better.
You play a shitton more invitational games. The real cool games are 100% invitational. Like the next one from Sentinel.
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On September 26 2013 07:19 ObviousOne wrote:Holy shit massive difference in thread presence for Ceph between this game and last, and it's not just filter length. His scum reads are literally the easiest things in the world for either alignment. Not seeing an attempt to prove he's town. I see questions but not a lot of accusations. Was going to mention his use of color but his filter in this game isn't engaged enough for him to really have discussed his scum reads at length and to beg us to lynch / kill them. The engagement is the biggest thing for me. It's harder to post when mafia and I know that's a tell very specific to me but I can't be the only one with it. Fuck. Is there a round-up of suspicions on Cephiro outside of what has been recently discussed? Does he ever say anyone is TOWN in this game? I don't see that, either. Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 19:46 Baker1986 wrote:
"ECCLESTONCEPHIRO MAKE TROUBLE, YOU ALL BAD, OO BAD, WHY BAD?"
If you'd read the cases properly, you'd see there are actually way more accusations rather than questions. So why is providing the two cases I have completed bad, just because they are "easy" targets? I think it's better to post the reads you are more certain on rather than try to sell everyone on a case you're unsure of yourself.
My filter isn't "engaged" enough because of the lack of time. Missing out on pretty much all of D1, N1, and the first half of D2 doesn't leave much time to engage. And still I'm here using that time as effectively as I can. I haven't been able to ensure other townies of my townyness in the few posts I've made. Usually with more posts that is also something much easier done, since it gives others content to make reads from.
I have several townreads, but in the time I have available, I consider it much more efficient to spend it on telling you about my scumreads and trying to prove others that I am town, rather than trying to tell everyone "Hey, I think player X is town because..". Sure, that also helps to some extent, but it's not as efficient. If you want though, I have no problem in sharing my townreads. Someone did a list post where they pegged everyone as something. As a new player I thought that would be a great way to share your reads on everyone, but with more experience I have learned the contrary, which is why I don't do such.
@JAT: At the moment it seems to me the only other realistic candidate is LoneMeow. Of course things could still happen, but I won't delve into the world of those possibilities right now. From my perspective, anyone is a better lynch than I am, since to me I'm confirmed town. (Obviously.) Lone isn't the best lynch available in my opinion, but it's a lynch I can get on. Many players have already pointed out flaws in his play. In my opinion, there are also some redeeming qualities. Trying to look at it from a newbie perspective, it is possible that he's simply trying to provide his reads for the other players but doesn't know how to back them up. (I have not read his newbie games so I don't know what caliber of a player he has been in those.) But it's also a very convinient free out-of-lynch card for claiming newbie, thus being able to vote and blame several players without committing, easily flip-flopping from a target to another. I'd much rather see kush lynched, but I can get on a LM lynch as well.
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On September 26 2013 07:54 Koshi wrote:
@ObviousOne
Yeah, this is never going to happen. The part that TL will start playing better because we plynch.
If you want TL mafia become better.
You play a shitton more invitational games. The real cool games are 100% invitational. Like the next one from Sentinel.
Me playing games to get better doesn't make any of the other 29 players play properly. Unless you mean for my sanity I should try to get into invitational games. For my sanity, I generally avoid large games. I signed up for this to try it again and, well, yeah. Less than pleased but not much I can do about it except yell and vote.
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Also here is a fun story.
The only guy that played scummy like fuck and obvious antitown that was actually scum was Alakaslam in Aperture.
It was double lynch and he didn't get lynched while 2 scummers where bussing him.
Now that is funny.
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United Kingdom36156 Posts
OO, people who don't give a shit won't start giving a shit because of a policy lynch or two.
Lynch ceph.
He is mafia.
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United Kingdom36156 Posts
I have a feeling I'm not going to be listened to. Oh well.
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On September 26 2013 07:55 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 07:54 Koshi wrote:
@ObviousOne
Yeah, this is never going to happen. The part that TL will start playing better because we plynch.
If you want TL mafia become better.
You play a shitton more invitational games. The real cool games are 100% invitational. Like the next one from Sentinel. Me playing games to get better doesn't make any of the other 29 players play properly. Unless you mean for my sanity I should try to get into invitational games. For my sanity, I generally avoid large games. I signed up for this to try it again and, well, yeah. Less than pleased but not much I can do about it except yell and vote.
No sorry.
I meant that TL should host more invitational games and invite only people that played good in previous games.
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On September 26 2013 07:55 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 07:19 ObviousOne wrote:Holy shit massive difference in thread presence for Ceph between this game and last, and it's not just filter length. His scum reads are literally the easiest things in the world for either alignment. Not seeing an attempt to prove he's town. I see questions but not a lot of accusations. Was going to mention his use of color but his filter in this game isn't engaged enough for him to really have discussed his scum reads at length and to beg us to lynch / kill them. The engagement is the biggest thing for me. It's harder to post when mafia and I know that's a tell very specific to me but I can't be the only one with it. Fuck. Is there a round-up of suspicions on Cephiro outside of what has been recently discussed? Does he ever say anyone is TOWN in this game? I don't see that, either. On May 29 2013 19:46 Baker1986 wrote:
"ECCLESTONCEPHIRO MAKE TROUBLE, YOU ALL BAD, OO BAD, WHY BAD?"
If you'd read the cases properly, you'd see there are actually way more accusations rather than questions. So why is providing the two cases I have completed bad, just because they are "easy" targets? I think it's better to post the reads you are more certain on rather than try to sell everyone on a case you're unsure of yourself. My filter isn't "engaged" enough because of the lack of time. Missing out on pretty much all of D1, N1, and the first half of D2 doesn't leave much time to engage. And still I'm here using that time as effectively as I can. I haven't been able to ensure other townies of my townyness in the few posts I've made. Usually with more posts that is also something much easier done, since it gives others content to make reads from. I have several townreads, but in the time I have available, I consider it much more efficient to spend it on telling you about my scumreads and trying to prove others that I am town, rather than trying to tell everyone "Hey, I think player X is town because..". Sure, that also helps to some extent, but it's not as efficient. If you want though, I have no problem in sharing my townreads. Someone did a list post where they pegged everyone as something. As a new player I thought that would be a great way to share your reads on everyone, but with more experience I have learned the contrary, which is why I don't do such. @JAT: At the moment it seems to me the only other realistic candidate is LoneMeow. Of course things could still happen, but I won't delve into the world of those possibilities right now. From my perspective, anyone is a better lynch than I am, since to me I'm confirmed town. (Obviously.) Lone isn't the best lynch available in my opinion, but it's a lynch I can get on. Many players have already pointed out flaws in his play. In my opinion, there are also some redeeming qualities. Trying to look at it from a newbie perspective, it is possible that he's simply trying to provide his reads for the other players but doesn't know how to back them up. (I have not read his newbie games so I don't know what caliber of a player he has been in those.) But it's also a very convinient free out-of-lynch card for claiming newbie, thus being able to vote and blame several players without committing, easily flip-flopping from a target to another. I'd much rather see kush lynched, but I can get on a LM lynch as well.
I want to read this, I really do, but every time I try my eyes glaze over and I tab back to my video game. I'll try to make sense of it after a stogie.
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On September 26 2013 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
I have a feeling I'm not going to be listened to. Oh well.
You're 100% on this?
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Cephiro
Trow out the townreads. Because you are getting lynched. And it isn't going to get stopped unless you post everything you can.
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On September 26 2013 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
OO, people who don't give a shit won't start giving a shit because of a policy lynch or two.
Lynch ceph.
He is mafia.
You should really look into my posts a bit closer. I really don't understand how you think I'm scum that much. Is it simply because you expect a much higher level play from me (even due to my quality-of-play slightly suffering due to aforementioned issues), or do you just think I'm blatantly lying all the time? Or is it based on what is left after your reads on other people? If that's the case, you should re-read some filters.
I can't see you pointing out any inconsistencies or such in my play that would be proof towards me being scum. In that case, why do you think I am scum so hard? You really need to re-evaluate your read on me. If you truly think I am scum, a player of your caliber should be able of delivering more than that.
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townreads plz. Do it koshi style. No verbs are needed.
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LM isn't the best lunch available that isn't you but you aren't pushing a better one that isn't you.
Ver help us.
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Okay Koshi has to be town.
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On September 26 2013 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Koshi has to be town.
Obviously...
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##Unvote
##Vote: LoneMeow
You've got my bow!!
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Do stuff! Do anything! Stop defending! Post reads! Get mad! Something! Holy shit.
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EPT
