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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:26 GMT
#3681
Did I ever say if I think geript is town or scum? IDR. I probably said town if anything, but you just went null.
That was scummy . Thanks for helping mafia by throwing away your vote in a plurality.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:26 GMT
#3682
On September 26 2013 07:26 ObviousOne wrote:
Did I ever say if I think geript is town or scum? IDR. I probably said town if anything, but you just went null.
That was scummy . Thanks for helping mafia by throwing away your vote in a plurality.


+1
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2013 22:28 GMT
#3683
On September 26 2013 07:24 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 07:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 26 2013 07:02 Cephiro wrote:
Reply to JAT considering my vote: I am not making a placeholder vote for now. I'd obviously want a scumread of mine to be lynched, but I will have to look at the options which are realistic closer to the deadline.

What about the current candidates besides you?

You know, I haven't really coalesced my feeling about this statement and it's been thrown around a fuck ton this game; but I don't think I've really seen it before to the same extent. It's just an idiotic statement as town "Uh who of the guys who are currently up for lynch are likely scum?" It assumes that only the current candidates are scum. Either I'm having an awful game or I'm right on track. I'm voting marv and saying fuck it for the night.

It doesn't assume there is no scum outside the candidates at all. Wtf are you talking about? I want to know his opinion on the other candidates.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:30 GMT
#3684
Like I'm getting fucking flashbacks to LXI where geript basically did nothing the entire game riding his "conf town" thing that was invented by town. There's no "conf town" associated with pretending to be a vig and if anyone says so they are fucking mafia and we should lynch them.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 25 2013 22:31 GMT
#3685
Cheesecake, OO, and yam when you're around, and especially you cheesecake - you need to do some work, you're the only ones I trust right now to actually make good decisions and push good ideas.

For the town.

(I would say VE, but his comment on me was weird. meh)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:31 GMT
#3686
Does Geript have a confirmed shot anywhere?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:32 GMT
#3687
On September 26 2013 07:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Does Geript have a confirmed shot anywhere?

No he basically said he was joking about having a gun to create some kind of effect and nobody has bothered him since.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 22:32 GMT
#3688
On September 26 2013 07:31 marvellosity wrote:
Cheesecake, OO, and yam when you're around, and especially you cheesecake - you need to do some work, you're the only ones I trust right now to actually make good decisions and push good ideas.

For the town.

(I would say VE, but his comment on me was weird. meh)


On September 26 2013 07:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Does Geript have a confirmed shot anywhere?



I giggled.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 25 2013 22:33 GMT
#3689
My townread on geript was never associated with his vigi claim. It was associated for going balls after DP early on, regardless of his vigi claim. My brief note on Day 1 was "cockish - light town read"

My only note on day 2 is "too much focus on NKs. townread waning"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 25 2013 22:33 GMT
#3690
yeah i know koshi ;;
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 25 2013 22:36 GMT
#3691
The thing is, the way geript is playing could well be legitimate townie paranoia.

But at the moment there's a distinct lack of trying to solve the game or interact with others while doing so
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:37 GMT
#3692
On September 26 2013 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
The thing is, the way geript is playing could well be legitimate townie paranoia.

But at the moment there's a distinct lack of trying to solve the game or interact with others while doing so

Make it null, captain.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 25 2013 22:38 GMT
#3693
Okay now that the clusterfuck called Golden Sun has ended i can focus on this shit.
JAT are you here? I forgot something earlier.
table for two on a tv tray
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:38 GMT
#3694
VCA tonight, combining with my reads, I'll prep it and dump before daypost.

Meanwhile, anyone have reasons that LM is NOT scum?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:39 GMT
#3695
Remember to throw your votes away today if you are geript or mafia. It will help me find you.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 22:42 GMT
#3696
On September 26 2013 07:31 marvellosity wrote:
Cheesecake, OO, and yam when you're around, and especially you cheesecake - you need to do some work, you're the only ones I trust right now to actually make good decisions and push good ideas.

For the town.

(I would say VE, but his comment on me was weird. meh)

On September 26 2013 07:38 ObviousOne wrote:
VCA tonight, combining with my reads, I'll prep it and dump before daypost.

Meanwhile, anyone have reasons that LM is NOT scum?
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 25 2013 22:42 GMT
#3697
On September 26 2013 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now that the clusterfuck called Golden Sun has ended i can focus on this shit.
JAT are you here? I forgot something earlier.

I am. Will be afk for 20-30 minutes but I will respond after that.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 25 2013 22:43 GMT
#3698
The thing is I'm so not confident as town.

And if I want to lynch somebody for doing distinctly non-town things people are going to shout: "Town can do that too! He's just bad town! That's so obviously not-town oriented that scum would never do such a thing!"

The problem is that they are probably right, and we end up with a mislynch. If I can't trust that characteristics associated with being mafia or being not-town are true, how on Earth can I push a correct lynch?

LM is playing not-town. So therefore he should be mafia, am I missing something here?

And Koshi, please fuck off kindly.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 25 2013 22:45 GMT
#3699
There exists the possibility (to me) that LM is somehow a disaffected townie with actual issues and is going through the motions.

My reservations about Cephiro are fewer.

Take this how you will, because I can't really explain it much more.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:52 GMT
#3700
On September 26 2013 07:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The thing is I'm so not confident as town.

And if I want to lynch somebody for doing distinctly non-town things people are going to shout: "Town can do that too! He's just bad town! That's so obviously not-town oriented that scum would never do such a thing!"

The problem is that they are probably right, and we end up with a mislynch. If I can't trust that characteristics associated with being mafia or being not-town are true, how on Earth can I push a correct lynch?

LM is playing not-town. So therefore he should be mafia, am I missing something here?

And Koshi, please fuck off kindly.

I'm going to tell you a quick story.

It's an analogy for where I think TL towns should be headed but it takes testicular fortitude and nobody has time for that.

I'm in a 25-man raid, and one of the components of the fight is that a subset of the group goes off on its own to ensure that everyone survives. That sub-group requires someone to keep them alive. Now, in this specific raid, nobody wanted to do it. I begged, I AFK'd, nobody volunteered. So here's what I said: "I'm going to start kicking healers until someone volunteers to heal the subgroup". Guess what? Someone fucking volunteered right quick.

Apply it to this game: I'm ready to start lynching people who very clearly are not interested in participating or even looking town. If you're not participating, you're scum. You're scum and you can fuck off and never sign up for another game until you get your shit together. Stay the fuck out of my games with this nonsense. I can't make the hosts remove you but I am empowered to do the removing myself.

VOTE LONEMEOW
ENGLAND PREVAILS
The concept that mafia will be the only ones looking town is fucking stupid and I reject it with all my being. If town don't want to act/look town because "they have no reason to" then I have no reason to keep them around, do I? No.

So, all in all, rage mode is activated. I want to kill LM because he has
- made no effort to look town
- made no effort to actually play the game
- is as about as involved in the dialogue as a gerbil

So we're fucking killing him today, because if you want garbage-free games now and in the future, you need to set the precedent.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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