EPTTL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 111
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Don't really think you are superscummy tbh. We will see what you do tomorrow. As for the scumreads that you want me to give. geript, exceptionally strange voteswitch. Mocsta selfclaimed voice of reasoning hasn't been around last couple of hours, should be good hour for aussies. Bad feeling about him. Not sure. Its D1. Depends if he picks shit up. FT. Want to see his flip. Truly hope he gets Vigid. Like really really hope it. But Day 2 will be important after night kills. Town could already collapse + somebody should do the math but I think we really can't have too many bad lynches because with 5 alive scummers still have 3 NK, and with 4/3 alive they have 2NK so unless we really have a lot of docs it will end bad really fast. So I hope good townies don't tunnel Day 2 and keep the whip on the thread. Not focussing too much on afkers/baddies. Need a really good day 2 to win this shizzle. We got modkills and seems like replacements are not yet playing. Also good players really being on/off. Doesn't look too good atm. But like I said, really depends on how many NKs always go through. I am off now. 48 hours no Koshi. Hope I wont get lynched. Pushing my lynch Day 2 is really silly. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
He came into the thread with his Chairman case, and was really convinced by it, and upheld it repeatedly. Then Wave expressed some kinda doubts and Mocsta is like "oh yeah, hmm" and just unvotes like that. Seems like he was pushed off it really easily given how absolutely convinced he sounded about it. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
If FT gets vigged and he flips scum. Then the people that voted him (geript, rayn, lesser extand Sentinel) look extra bad. Because it is already strange rayn votes CR like I described, geript being a hothead as he is not voting for FT after condemning FT for calling him names but if FT flips scum it is REALLY REALLY strange. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
Just caught up - does anyone have any questions for me? I can't put that much time into the game until tomorrow evening because I have got to pass an important exam tomorrow. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
As for why re:CR vote: I'm always trying to be hyper aware of which scum are "at risk" and who the counter wagons are. I remembered CR being a recent show prior to lynch; but that awareness of as I saw it a late counter wagon read scummy to me. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
Tofu is likely scum. Town is in a bad situation if he isn't, because that means mafia votes are diffused and less meaningful. But I'll assume town is in a good position, and he is. That makes my Mocsta town read go back up to solid. The rest of the scum crowd is then probably distributed between Sentinel, Cheesecake, LoneMeow, Kush, Stutters, Cephiro, VE (my gut right now says Sentinel, Cheesecake, VE) For now I'm willing to believe Marv, Geript and Yamato77 made mistakes for this vote. But Geript is not a town read for me anymore, I haven't liked his play all game so the town feel to his motivations is starting to feel tenuous Mocsta's switching off Chairman Ray easily is not suspect to me from my read on him, but it's personality based Oh and I'm finally getting any kind of read on Koshi, and it's slightly town. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 23 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote: you've still not explained WHY it read as scummy geript. Yes I have or at least as best as I am able. If you don't like it daddy then you should have better kids. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 23 2013 23:54 geript wrote: Yes I have or at least as best as I am able. If you don't like it daddy then you should have better kids. No, you've literally not explained it at all. You've just said "I read it as scummy" repeatedly without telling us why it's scummy. Tell me succinctly why what he did is more likely to come from mafia than town. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Still don't get why town wouldn't be aware of it, but whatever. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 23 2013 23:24 marvellosity wrote: I'll tell you the oddest thing about Mocsta from my perspective. He came into the thread with his Chairman case, and was really convinced by it, and upheld it repeatedly. Then Wave expressed some kinda doubts and Mocsta is like "oh yeah, hmm" and just unvotes like that. Seems like he was pushed off it really easily given how absolutely convinced he sounded about it. How can you possibly think mocsta is scum?? He talks way too much to be scum | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 24 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote: How can you possibly think mocsta is scum?? He talks way too much to be scum Mocsta is plenty capable of talking a shitload as mafia. And did I indicate i suddenly thought Mocsta was confirmed mafia or something? Don't think so, no. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 23:51 Zaragon wrote: Feels like Rayn is going to be stuck as scum for me after this vote. I already didn't like his play, and now it has gone from slightly scum to solidly scum. Tofu is likely scum. Town is in a bad situation if he isn't, because that means mafia votes are diffused and less meaningful. But I'll assume town is in a good position, and he is. That makes my Mocsta town read go back up to solid. The rest of the scum crowd is then probably distributed between Sentinel, Cheesecake, LoneMeow, Kush, Stutters, Cephiro, VE (my gut right now says Sentinel, Cheesecake, VE) For now I'm willing to believe Marv, Geript and Yamato77 made mistakes for this vote. But Geript is not a town read for me anymore, I haven't liked his play all game so the town feel to his motivations is starting to feel tenuous Mocsta's switching off Chairman Ray easily is not suspect to me from my read on him, but it's personality based Oh and I'm finally getting any kind of read on Koshi, and it's slightly town. Do you base your read on me on what FirmTofu is in your opinion going to flip? Pretty interesting as you had a town read on FT on D1. Your scumread on FT now seems to be based on OMGUS rather than his actions. Why exctly do you think i am scum, and why exactly do you think FT is scum? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On September 23 2013 21:49 DarthPunk wrote: God I am sick of yamato. He is constantly a dick to me over the course of several games and voice mafia. Seriously I am just about done playing at this point. This is said with absolute impartiality Yamato is a complete dick on voice -> cutting off everyone etc; and in the thread loves to make posts as if he should be playing on 2+2 as a champion. We know its coming, just gotta accept it sometimes. As for you, his points are fair. Theres been quite a few things that you have take exceptional, potentionally unreasonable ire to. In short: you have become a whinging pom (no offense marv). I have a town read on both of you. Yam because he actually seems to give two fucks this game, whether right or wrong. DP cos a lot of the stuff he is saying, resonates with my thoughts (whether shared in the thread or not). So please kiss and make up. | ||
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
On September 24 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you base your read on me on what FirmTofu is in your opinion going to flip? Pretty interesting as you had a town read on FT on D1. Your scumread on FT now seems to be based on OMGUS rather than his actions. Why exctly do you think i am scum, and why exactly do you think FT is scum? We had a discussion earlier about that. You deflect a lot with questions without attaching your opinion. It was even scummier when you voted Chairman Ray and also didn't attach much of your opinion. I can't find you making any move like that at the end of the day. So you are a separate and more solid read to me than FT. FT tried to make a case on me as scum when he realized he was under heavy fire. It was weak. He also tried to swap vote to Chairman Ray there at the end. So my read changed, yes, for two pretty good reasons. I realize the possibility of reading Chairman Ray wrongly, but doing so combined with his case on me makes him read very scum to me. Obviously I can't easily lend that perspective to you. I'm trying now to establish people's earlier scum reads on FT in my mind and see if I can make a connection, but I'm pretty busy for the moment | ||
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