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geript
10024 Posts
On September 23 2013 21:34 marvellosity wrote: geript really really does need to explain his vote though. I already did. It seemed really weird that Ray knew who the counter option was and changed my mind. Plus, I recognize that I'm biased against tofu. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:30 geript wrote: I already did. It seemed really weird that Ray knew who the counter option was and changed my mind. Plus, I recognize that I'm biased against tofu. why would mafia know this more than town? I don't understand what you're trying to suggest. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:30 geript wrote: I already did. It seemed really weird that Ray knew who the counter option was and changed my mind. Plus, I recognize that I'm biased against tofu. Why was Ray being aware of the game such a massive tell? IIRC you thought he was town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:29 Koshi wrote: See rayn, you are not really the guy that votes for people because there post look constructed and shit like that. You vote for people because they have a scummy mindset. Can't believe you voted CR over myself if you felt so strongly about me, and while you were not convinced about FT, you decided to vote CR. I simply don't see rayn giving me up so easily, there simply wasn't enough anger and caps to try and lynch me. Problem is I don't see you saving FT like that. Even though you are also not the bussing kind of scumplayer. Even though you like to have conversation with your fellow scummers. Your lynch wasn't going to happen. It was pretty clear. I explained why i did vote for CR over FT. It has to do with his past scumplay and what he did in last game (Desert) when he got mislynched on D1 and what we talked about after that game. I don't have a town read on marv, i have explained that aswell. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:34 marvellosity wrote: It's funny, because I'd say the players who played in Desert should be the ones with decent townreads on me by now. Why exactly? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Fact is this: 1) rayn doesn't buss fellow scummers. However, he interacts with them. Townreads/scumreads doesn't matter. 2) rayn didn't tried to lynch me on the towny rayn way. Not enough caps, not enough times repeating why I am scum, too many times asking people to look at me. 3) I have no clue why rayn voted CR except for the fact he said CR was another scumread of his when I asked. And CR being less scummy than FT because FT did way more he has done in his last couple of town games on D1. While it's not much, and i disagree with a lot of stuff he is saying, it still is way better and he seemed like trying. Guess what, saying this that rayn disagrees with is a really good way for rayn to lynch your ass. Also, if FT did more than his recent towngames, wouldn't that make it more likely he is mafia? So rayn gave many (untypical rayn) reasons why not to vote FT, and didn't gave any reasons why he voted CR. Except for "CR is the most scummy except Koshi". So rayn pretty scummy tbh. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Because my play is pretty dissimilar, the way I've asked questions and gone about things is quite different. People in Desert *just saw* my mafia play. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I explained why i did vote for CR over FT. You didn't. You said why you didn't vote FT. But never why CR was scummy. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:39 Koshi wrote: Rayn quote me your case on CR. Like everything why you thought CR was scummy. I can't quote anything because i did not make a case on him. I agreed with what yamato said on him. How FirmTofu enters the game as scum is that he calls me scum in this manner; "soon rayn is going to find some bullshit reason to vote for me" and after that he calls my reads bad and calls me bad. That's not what he has done this game. In his last couple of town games he has been afk the entire D1, and got lynched for it. Look at the chat me/him/marv had after Desert. I didn't find him to be the best lynch because in this game he did not discredit me from the game start and he seemed to follow the advice he was given after Desert mafia. While his contributions were not good, they were not normal scum-FT'ish. I do not know if he is scum or not, because on N1 he has shown some characteristics that are similar to his scumplay (for example his really weird read on me). On September 23 2013 22:36 Koshi wrote: Ok that last post wasnt too clear. Fact is this: 1) rayn doesn't buss fellow scummers. However, he interacts with them. Townreads/scumreads doesn't matter. 2) rayn didn't tried to lynch me on the towny rayn way. Not enough caps, not enough times repeating why I am scum, too many times asking people to look at me. 3) I have no clue why rayn voted CR except for the fact he said CR was another scumread of his when I asked. And CR being less scummy than FT because FT did Guess what, saying this that rayn disagrees with is a really good way for rayn to lynch your ass. Also, if FT did more than his recent towngames, wouldn't that make it more likely he is mafia? So rayn gave many (untypical rayn) reasons why not to vote FT, and didn't gave any reasons why he voted CR. Except for "CR is the most scummy except Koshi". So rayn pretty scummy tbh. 1) Incorrect. 2) Incorrect. 3) So what am i supposed to do if the lynch i am pushing is not gonna happen? Vote for my null/townread instead of a scumread from the candidates that ARE possibly gonna get lynched? Waste my vote? wtf? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:38 marvellosity wrote: Because my play is pretty dissimilar, the way I've asked questions and gone about things is quite different. People in Desert *just saw* my mafia play. There is one "difference" i have noticed in this game compared to Desert but that has to do with who is scum and who is not. I do not know who is scum so that can't possibly make you town, at least yet. I always have my doubts on you, because you are good in this game and definitely able to change your play based on why you got found out in your last scumgame. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't quote anything because i did not make a case on him. I agreed with what yamato said on him. How FirmTofu enters the game as scum is that he calls me scum in this manner; "soon rayn is going to find some bullshit reason to vote for me" and after that he calls my reads bad and calls me bad. That's not what he has done this game. In his last couple of town games he has been afk the entire D1, and got lynched for it. Look at the chat me/him/marv had after Desert. I didn't find him to be the best lynch because in this game he did not discredit me from the game start and he seemed to follow the advice he was given after Desert mafia. While his contributions were not good, they were not normal scum-FT'ish. I do not know if he is scum or not, because on N1 he has shown some characteristics that are similar to his scumplay (for example his really weird read on me). 1) Incorrect. 2) Incorrect. 3) So what am i supposed to do if the lynch i am pushing is not gonna happen? Vote for my null/townread instead of a scumread from the candidates that ARE possibly gonna get lynched? Waste my vote? wtf? 1) correct 2) correct 3) actually say why you vote for somebody. You didn't even say "I agree with yamato" when you voted CR, you just gave shitty reasons why you didn't vote FT. ^ I can't do this all day sadly enough because I am gone in 40 minutes for 48 hours. Bolded part) Well he didn't attack you, he even gave you a townread. But I am pretty sure he came in the thread calling DP scum because of the argument with geript, then went on and said geript was an inbred retard, then went on giving DP a townread, and then said VE was scum for buddying DP. Again, I already summed up that he did that while voting for FT. Can you please explain to me why FT is town for not attacking you but attacking somebody else instead while entering the thread? Why does it have to be you when he enters the thread? Your FT meta-read is: FT attacks me while entering the thread = FT is scum FT attacks somebody else while entering the thread = FT is town How close am I? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Zaragon is constantly playing the noob card time and time again, and his posts are a lot of fluff with not much content. He is semi-lurking and appears to be contributing when not doing much of anything. LoneMeow for obvious reasons. Lurking, being scummy day 1, and then martyring. Prime vig food. Sentinel did that giant post that voted Coag, not too bad, but the "These are the people that haven't done anything" part was scummy as balls. Apparently he also flipped his read on Ray. Pandain might also be a good target because his D1 megapost was super wrong and misinterpreted a ton of information in the thread. OO is most likely town and I'm 100% town. If Pandain is town, he would have come to a different conclusion imo. Also, I'm butthurt about him calling me mafia. I don't even care about Rayn/Marv/Koshi/DP/geript atm until I see the night kills. I'm barely skimming over their posts because everything just seems to go in a circle of accusation. I'll just say that DP is almost certainly town and should not be a vig target (geript...). I'd even go so far as to say, doc him. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
FT attacks somebody while entering the thread = scum FT makes some silly police post/opening post for which he gets a lot of flak = town That would be more FT meta. But it changed last 2 months so meh. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I'm a poor afflicted soul, unfairly put upon... | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
So. Scummers plz stack kills or docs please do your work. Or vigis shoot scummers. Shit like that. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On September 23 2013 22:59 Koshi wrote: 1) correct 2) correct 3) actually say why you vote for somebody. You didn't even say "I agree with yamato" when you voted CR, you just gave shitty reasons why you didn't vote FT. ^ I can't do this all day sadly enough because I am gone in 40 minutes for 48 hours. Bolded part) Well he didn't attack you, he even gave you a townread. But I am pretty sure he came in the thread calling DP scum because of the argument with geript, then went on and said geript was an inbred retard, then went on giving DP a townread, and then said VE was scum for buddying DP. Again, I already summed up that he did that while voting for FT. Can you please explain to me why FT is town for not attacking you but attacking somebody else instead while entering the thread? Why does it have to be you when he enters the thread? Your FT meta-read is: FT attacks me while entering the thread = FT is scum FT attacks somebody else while entering the thread = FT is town How close am I? 1) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417453&user=raynpelikoneet I was scum with DP and OO. You are wrong. 2) You are not right Koshi. I do not yell á la Titanic / 4 Persona style any more, at least on D1. 3) So what if i didn't say that? Do you think it's wise for me as scum to not say that when i can just say that? That's why i did vote for CR. If you think i am scum for not saying "i agree with what yamato brought up" then i can't help you. geript was acting stupidly, there is nothing wrong with FT saying that. FT went into an argument with DP after that. It was the argument that gave him a townread on DP i am reading his posts correctly. Why can't he do that as town? I agree that his read on VE is based on stupid stuff, but does that make him scum? You yourself didn't think he was scummy for that, yet you still voted for him. No, that's not what my meta-read on FT is. I already said what my FT meta-read is. | ||
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