TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 107

On September 23 2013 21:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn what do you think of marv? How engaged do you feel that he has been? Have you read hapa's case from GSLIII?

On September 23 2013 21:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn what do you think of marv? How engaged do you feel that he has been? Have you read hapa's case from GSLIII?

On September 23 2013 21:20 marvellosity wrote:


I'm going to attempt to shut down your case right now, if you're going to use meta. I guess you can take it or leave it, but I probably won't say anything else on the matter.

When I play scum, I try pretty hard to fake 'emotional investment' in town, to varying degrees of success.

In this game, it's been pretty clear I've been trying to remain emotionally uninvolved as far as possible.

Now, perhaps this is a new style of scumplay that I'm trying - I've decided that being cold and analytical will give me the best scumresults. If you believe this then there's not a lot I can do.

Simplest and correct explanation is that I'm town, trying to keep emotionally stable and on an even footing as much as possible, and that this isn't my first scumgame ever where I'm actively trying to be UNemotional.

On September 23 2013 21:20 marvellosity wrote:


I'm going to attempt to shut down your case right now, if you're going to use meta. I guess you can take it or leave it, but I probably won't say anything else on the matter.

When I play scum, I try pretty hard to fake 'emotional investment' in town, to varying degrees of success.

In this game, it's been pretty clear I've been trying to remain emotionally uninvolved as far as possible.

Now, perhaps this is a new style of scumplay that I'm trying - I've decided that being cold and analytical will give me the best scumresults. If you believe this then there's not a lot I can do.

Simplest and correct explanation is that I'm town, trying to keep emotionally stable and on an even footing as much as possible, and that this isn't my first scumgame ever where I'm actively trying to be UNemotional.

On September 23 2013 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi before you go can you gimme 3 scumreads that are not me with reasoning?

On September 23 2013 21:24 DarthPunk wrote:


Yeah, i'm not talking about you being unemotional. Clearly you are emotional (Risen) this game. I am talking about how engaged you seem to be in the game and in scum hunting in general. Anyway. You don;t have to defend youerself until I read you properly. I may not think you are scum after that anyway.

On September 23 2013 21:29 yamato77 wrote:
I haven't fully caught up yet, but we're lynching between geript/Sentinel tomorrow and that's final. IIRC, they both argued AGAINST a Ray lynch and then ended up with their votes on him at the end of the day. Confirmed mafia, for all I care, regardless of FT's alignment.

VE is a tertiary candidate, especially if he doesn't get his shit together. Martyring is not a town tell for VE, neither is sulking when called scum. When VE is caught (such as he was in endgame of Nomination), he sulks as scum and tries to play it off like he understands why people think he's scummy. It's a visage.

On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Finally got some decent reads. :D

Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation.

As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them.

We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term.

Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots.

Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used.

Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned.

On September 23 2013 20:05 geript wrote:

So you just chose to give me a townread after skipping most of my posts? Where's the sense in that?

On September 23 2013 20:11 DarthPunk wrote:


What is dull about it? I believe he is a Vig. I believe I am getting shot incredibly stupidly, I obviously can't do anything to get geript out of his moronic tunnel, So I need other people to do it for me.

I am legitimately concerned about getting shot. And I don't know why you wouldn't be concerned about me getting shot.

On September 23 2013 20:20 DarthPunk wrote:


You scum marv?