On August 02 2013 04:44 StiMaDDict wrote: Bored. Waiting..
Alakaslam, does Templar drop work in SCII?
At my level, it can make your opponent quit.
Anyhow I am sorry for not giving my opinion on Umasi. I'm just am he only Half sheeped me and then gave no evidence that it wasn't sheep. If he had voted scam Ida been happier.
On August 02 2013 09:39 Umasi wrote: dammit slam that's so irrelevant and funny. you can't just go tell people memes/gifs are bad and then post something like that, slam. it's not okay!
It is though! It totally explains what squishy did there.
Anyway top scum read is scam. Want RDO to pick it up, so I'm not gonna bother him. Don't like zyrre, through pure OMGIS. That will probably change post game.
On August 02 2013 09:45 Holyflare wrote: I'd appreciate if you cut the pointless fluff posts please, I'm trying to formulate my post and updating it with new information from these night posts as I go along and you are just adding more confusion right now.
Ok, sorry- and I am aware that I was hypocritical, I just remembered that and thought I'd toss it out there.
On August 02 2013 10:35 Holyflare wrote: Well crap....
I am going to assume for balance reasons that there is a serial killer. That's 2KP.... with at least 4 total scum players that's 7 townies left. There could however be more than 4 scum...
On August 02 2013 10:39 Nightcat99 wrote: The thing is i through he was town too but no one can be sure, and there is no way to ensure a lynch on any one else. I know i might be stubborn but i just cant agree with a peaceful no lynch.
I will be honest through, i dont think Sc_am is scum at all. First of all, hes obviously lurking and not busy. In that case, hes scum team would pressure him to play and give advice. I think you are much likely to do something, if you are 2 other scum and a coach on another forum pressuring you. And his lack of motivation is a tell of a horrible town.
i need to form a opinion on scums through, i will go dive filter for a bit.
And enjoy.
But that's not true, a better scum than I told me in qt: (not a quote but a paraphrase rather)
"No, lurk- you need to reign it in big time alakaslam, you are ok for now but that was dangerously unhelpful to our cause. When you are newb scum anything you say will be scummy, and usually town will pick on other town mistakes versus lurkers. When that starts to happen, I can manipulate them easier by giving assent and adding fuel to the case. If someone wants to lynch you, you may defend yourself however you see fit. Wait until that happens. Don't get modkilled ofc."
I had already gone nuts though, so I replied "bus me".
But you see that scum won't necessarily say "post more", "read the thread" etc, though I did as scum.
Ok. Actually I'd like everyone's thoughts on him, his filter is a page +2 posts.
I think he is orange, which would mean he is playing a fair to good scum game or a fair to bad town game. Anyone disagree? I think he has made contributions, but contributions that scum could make. It seems like first he felt deus would be a better mislynch than reps and still possible to pull off, based on Umasi and I voting him, but came with assent too late. Then, seeing that wasn't going to happen, was content with reps)squishy. He found reps filter to be not just bad town (town consensus) but rather shady as hell- or, really scummy. (To be fair, same of deus. Who hasn't posted much night phase. Could still be scum but he isn't scum to me yet.) Good reason to then be content with a reps)squishy lynch.
Of course, there could be town motive. I want no one other than RDO to point this out, if he can't think of a town motive...
If someone else can and posts it that ammo is lost.
So nobody but RDO may answer or else is scummy: RDO, why did you act as you did? As you are town, stating the truth will absolve this "case".
On August 02 2013 11:05 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: As you can see I've been trying to pick up my posting in the past couple of pages. Started slow obviously.
I'm concerned a little about Stim still. I haven't seen an in-depth post from him, he's mostly just one liners, and nobody has called him out on it at all. I understand why you've looked at some of my posts, since most of them were pretty reactionary, but why has he gotten so little attention?
Stim has my attention actually, and I think he is townie. But main point is, I'm glad you're here. Absolve yourself in detail? Quote yourself will help.^^^^^^
On August 01 2013 04:31 Zyrre wrote: Was just about the post the same thoughts holy. Noting every single thought in the thread is a terrible idea if you are town. As you say holy, its a simple way for scum to fit in since you dont really have to commit to any single post. But also its not very productive. If you have a thought you should first pursue it yourself and compare against filters/other posts/votes etc and develop it in to an idea or theory, thats the work you are supposed to do as town. Spamming single thoughts and nitpicking on a single post is largely useless.
Sometimes you have to do this. I almost always phone post, pm R1CH if you must. He knows my sprint IP and my TWC, so pretty obvious to him my tendencies.
It is a ton of work to put together a multi-quote post from a phone, though possible.
Oh yeah just saw wifi logo
Well my phone will show dc.rr anyway. But yeah, I think he could even tell you it's usually xxx xxx 0 100- my phone. My PC is 1.
Whatever maybe kinda stupid to give out my ip so that is why xxx.
On August 02 2013 11:16 Holyflare wrote: I want you to read up on Nightcat, it would help make my job easier and I see you haven't really commented on him much.
Ok. Defaulted to zyrre but will switch to nightcat.
On August 02 2013 11:21 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I found his filter to be scummy because of the how he kept talking about all the guides he had been studying. I honestly overestimated him as a player. As you all were quick to point out, he was either bad town or mafia, and his he claimed to be so well read on the game I assumed he was a mafia member who had not quite learned how to play his hand with subtlety. To be fair, I think I was probably a little hard on him, he did get thrown into a rough situation. My estimation of Deus was based off of the first couple of pages I read, where he was being aggressive against reps with what I saw as little reason, which is why I initally questioned his motives. Unwarranted aggression so early seems a bit scummy to me. As I dug in deeper to reps posts though I began to suspect him myself, for the above mentioned reasons, which is why I withdrew my statement against Deus and shifted my attention towards reps.
On July 31 2013 23:34 Nightcat99 wrote: I will give some opinion.
Alakaslam: I have played with him one whole game, and 95% of the time i still have no idea what he is saying. Dont ask me read about him, Lynch him before LYLO.
Umasi is a little strange to, especiallyy at the middle of the night with slam, but he recovers in the morning, i am not getting alot of scum tell from him.
Gotard is being scumy, Infil made 1 post on day 1 and call a bunch of ppl netural, thats pretty much how you shall feel on day 1 and the throws a vote on him, kind of strange.
I am off rep for now, there was quiet a bit of scum tell imo, but the chance of him actually just being new is quiet high as well, but i would like to ask Rep to point some fingers and tell us what you feel about people instead of responding nonsense.
I would much lynch a lurker then any one thats posting at the moment, but there are still time, every one shall give some opinion on what is going on.
On August 02 2013 04:18 Nightcat99 wrote: If we get a no Lynch because you move your vote on the last minute, you and rep is both going to be voted as scum team.
On August 01 2013 10:14 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: Seems really suspicious to me that DeusX keeps trying to nail squishy. Umasi and Alak, why did you withdraw your votes for him? Did I miss something earlier in the thread?
As I mentioned, found Deus suspicious---obviously two of you had as well, and I wondered why you had withdrawn since I couldn't see a reason immediately.
Also, again with the suspicison of him trying to nail reps
On August 01 2013 10:27 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I take back what I said earlier about Deus...just found that awesome filter tool. Reps does look shady as hell...he has an excuse for everything, and that whole newbie act at the beginning was pretty fishy...I agree with Deus anyway at this point. At some point we're going to have to deal with him anyway, right now he is just muddying the waters.
Here is where I filtered and saw what reps had posted..basically about how much he had read and then all the sketchy signs he was giving off initially. See here:
On July 31 2013 07:59 reps)squishy wrote: So I have read a few TL Mafia games to try to get a grasp of the game. People love lynching people who don't post. What do you guys think of non-posters? Should we lynch them and hang them in the entrance of the town to let them all see that scums are not allowed here?
On July 31 2013 12:21 reps)squishy wrote: Well taking that DeusXmachina has already posted to lynch me Here I am going to remain neutral and NOT lynch him he may be town and, the more town the better right? It is day one and despite him going against me there is no evidence that he scum or an aggressive townsman or something else.
Pfft. 'Scuse me, yeah there is. Coming
I am Hapless Peon (Vanilla Townie) what you claimed to be
All trying to play up his newbiness despite his claims that he's read through all these threads. Just didn't add up to me, which is why I switched to him
On August 02 2013 04:22 Nightcat99 wrote: If Umasi posted something like this 5 to 6 hour ahead i would have been happy to consider a switch , because rep although scummy is no way on top of my radar, and i have stated before that a scum will have a scum team with coach and there is no way they would play like this.
But this is too late, there is no switching at this point.