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On August 01 2013 04:31 Zyrre wrote:
Was just about the post the same thoughts holy. Noting every single thought in the thread is a terrible idea if you are town.
As you say holy, its a simple way for scum to fit in since you dont really have to commit to any single post.
But also its not very productive. If you have a thought you should first pursue it yourself and compare against filters/other posts/votes etc and develop it in to an idea or theory, thats the work you are supposed to do as town.
Spamming single thoughts and nitpicking on a single post is largely useless.
just saw that after I posted.
Zyrre, t.t
like
did you even say anything? I think you just said basically everything that flare said. liiiiike, why did you post that?
"was just about to post the same thoughts holy."
That line specifically
who cares? why would you bother posting it if he has the same thoughts?
Like, you're trying to get yourself into the discussion without saying anything.
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oh also Holyflare, what do you think of Infii so far?
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thanks for clarifying, that single post read, to me, as a slipped in attempt to appear like you were contributing :3
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fair enough, and in a similar vein, I still want you to talk reps.
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On August 01 2013 04:54 sc_a.M wrote:
Hey guys!
In my opinion we should not kill anyone today but wait and let the investigators do the investigations. Perhaps there isn't even a SK and then everything would be fine!
hey there sc_
I think that you might have misunderstood how this game goes :3
All of the work that town does is through day time votes. Relying on the night phase is not something we should do, there is more to the game than just waiting for the night phase, because mafia can kill someone every night.
Voting to no lynch squanders the towns power, and this game isn't nearly as simple as you make it sound :3
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Infii, why did you pop in to comment and basically say nothing, and then tell us you don't plan on saying anything? And you're defensive! What are you trying to accomplish by that? Address things other than yourself and generic town lists, because that just looks like you attempting to appear to contribute.
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You just threw in a comment about sc_
like, "dude what the hell?"
That's not exactly saying a lot, there is a LOT to talk about.
And you just were like,
"guys there's nothing to analyze :<<<<"
like, you said NOTHING. It told us NOTHING about what you're thinking that's independent of what others are thinking (yeah, literally everyone will look at sc_s first post and go "wtf")
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##UNVOTE DEUS
alright, that case sold me on you not being scum atm.
Specifically, the way your brought up your points and your mentality is very pro-town, in a way that your earlier posts were not.
Reps is just so out there uninformed/bad/pick your word that I have a hard time believing he's scum, despite everything. Him randomly throwing a vote on me with THAT logic is just stupid.
Most of the things he does are stupid, not scum. I guess I don't mind lynching him, because some of it is scum.
Deus, what do you think about people that aren't reps? Specifically infii.
And reps, what do you think of people that aren't me? Specifically infii, again.
On August 01 2013 06:52 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 04:09 Umasi wrote:
oh this is a good moment to mention, I totally forgot early game
guys
no lynching is retarded, the only weapon we have is our vote t.t
so voting to no lynch is squandering your vote, and I'll happily switch votes to prevent a no lynch Why? Doesn't it make sense to try to get a solid read first? Otherwise odds are we are just killing off our own?
conceptually, I prefer to always lynch no matter what forever. Totally policy
"we could be lynching one of our own though"
well lynch the scummiest or second scummiest, there's always the possibility of lynching one of our own.
The thing is, if you take away the lynch, town has literally nothing concrete left. This IS our power in the game. This is all half of the people in this game can DO.
So by nature, voting to no lynch is wasting that power.
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On August 01 2013 05:44 reps)squishy wrote:Anyone, anyone! That defends me in the smallest way (Usami) you should be super suspicious of them it's the oldest move in the mafia strategy. Show nested quote +hey I'm around. I still like deus for scum, and by transition not sold on reps being scum. Here is his defense. Anyone that votes to lynch me is town. Mafia won't waste a lynch someone that the town is going to lynch already.
~oldest move in mafia strategy
why do you say this? Are you backtracking from the path of newb?
Like, you're trying to change your playstyle to make you look like less of a noob, and I really don't get it, because you're not doing things that are pro town, you're just messing around.
Scum? Sure!
Troll? guess so!
like~I don't know what you're playing at if you're town.
On August 01 2013 08:34 reps)squishy wrote:
Deus you talk as if you are sooo positive that I am a townie and you want to lynch me anyway. Why? I smell scum all over you.
Why are you backtracking? Why isn't Deus town anymore?
##VOTE reps
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Deus has been very vocal that he thinks you are scum, but to convince people to vote you, if you ARE town, you're a counterproductive town.
So either way it's benefiting town, is what he's trying to communicate. I don't think that people should vote you because they think you're counterproductive, but because you're scum.
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reps, you ARE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE
you have preformed jack.
there are LOTS of good reasons for voting you.
There's nothing stopping you from ignoring everyone and going and independently building cases on people and posting them, because I think we can all look past the "who posted it" to the "jesus this is scummy as crap"
when you just sit here and whine about people voting you, that's not a compelling reason to switch off.
He IS correct in thinking that you're hurting us if you're not scum. You are hurting town if you are not scum.
(this implies that if you're scum, you're helping town by being an obvious target)
The way to be interpreted as a townie is to be townie, not to be like "why don't people believe me :<<<<" because scum can say EXACTLY what you're saying. Nothing about what you've done actually helps us read you as town, we just have to wifom ourselves into thinking you're town. But if you just look at everything objectively, you're scum.
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I think holyflare just linked the entire OP. This specifically should lead you to what we want you to work with.
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yeah, I think that infii is number two after reps atm.
I'd still consider deus depending on reps flip.
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On July 31 2013 12:14 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 07:23 DeusXmachina wrote:
These technical problems are so pesky. I am tired of the bugs, the human error, and especially the out-of-date software. We need to shape up this business. We need to root out these problems. I understand that mistakes happen, but this is our livelihood we are talking about. Share your annoyance with these problems. Let’s get these issues resolved (the ball rolling). That said, I'm not a fan of this post at all, because it specifically says "let's get the ball rolling" and then like, doesn't get the ball rolling? Don't command us to do what you want, try to start it up if you are legitimately invested in it. Moreover, Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 07:43 DeusXmachina wrote:
I can appreciate your enthusiasm Umasi, as well as your insight on some of the characters of this town, or should I say potential problems. I hate bugs in code too. Especially the small, easy to overlook ones like a misplaced semicolon. Who else will chime in? Doesn't out-of-date software just make you want to send a nasty email articulating your frustration to the parties responsible? Also, Alakaslam says he is not a problem. Can he be trusted? You just like, lightly finger of suspicion alakaslam, post a lot of irrelevant fluff, and tell me you appreciate my enthusiasm. What did any of that accomplish? It's done even less than reps, from what I can tell. Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 08:43 DeusXmachina wrote:
Also isn't excuses for not posting kind of a scummy thing to do? Basically saying "hey I can't post right now, but I don't want to call attention to myself for not posting, so here is my excuse" Why not just post a lot when you can and don't worry about the times you can't. Why are you like, fishing for responses here? All of this combined with your hard stance on someone so early that's really not backed up with a lot of facts makes me vote you. You're owning up to your thoughts, but your thoughts are over the top. ##VOTE DeusXmachina
Because a lot of these points still hold true.
Reps is a better lynch because, after you posted your re~case and thoughts, you've shown the ability to actually contribute in a meaningful way, that I don't think you had exhibited until that point.
reps is constant nonsense and refuses to alter what he's doing at all, so he's a better lynch.
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the thing nightcat, is that if someone is TOO SCUMMY TO ACTUALLY BE SCUM
they're probably scum.
it's just as easy to be crazy scum as it is to be crazy town, yeah?
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But slam what if you're saying this preemptively to reduce the chances that people will actually use it as evidence against you!
wham bam slam you're scum brooooo
(this is a joke for all who are curious btw)
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Rdaneel, if he flips scum none of this matters
but if reps flips town, and we're all just like "well they went balls out to get him lynched so they can't be scum" and they're ACTUALLY SCUM, what did they lose?
You don't get towncred for pushing a mislynch on a townie.
Likewise though, they aren't condemned because of it. You need more than a single key point to say "this guy IS scum because of THIS action" or "this guy IS town because of THIS action". Look at their motivations for doing something, that's equally important as what actually occurs.
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btw RDaneel
friendly reminder
make sure you tell us you voted in the gameplay thread as well as voting in the voting thread, some people may not check the vote thread as frequently.
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we find out their alignment as well as their role
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(sorry for triple posting)
so if we lynched like, the doctor or some shit, it would tell us that we lynched
reps the IT Contractor (Doctor)
or something similar. Blazinghand can clarify if he wants though
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