• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:45
CET 11:45
KST 19:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
How Do You Choose the Right Event Venue in Dubai? SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What are former legends up to these days?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1479 users

Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 10

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 07:46 GMT
#845
Actually Stutters' behaviour during the end of the phase is really weird.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:49 GMT
#933
On July 02 2013 21:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so people who are most likely town:
JarJar, Lazer, marv, Vivax, Oats, gumshoe
Why is gumshoe most likely town? What about my case don't you like? (Especially the stuff about the mass claim).

Also, you think it's reasonable to assume that I'm town and there was no mafia were pushing my lynch yesterday?

Do i still need to comment on your case on gumshoe as he claimed blue?
People voting for you in chronological order; gumshoe, Lazer, me, Stutters.
gumshoe & Lazer have claimed blue, i am town, if there is scum in your wagon it has to be Stutters, unless one of those blue claims is fake.

Opposing wagons at that time were; me and to some extent WoS.
Vivax and Oats were voting for me, i don't think either of them is scum.

Mafia pretty much didn't need to push any lynch (if you are town) as both of the main wagons were town, and probably pushed by town (i do not think either of the blue claim is fake). People who should be looked more closely to are those who did not push any lynch, did defend either me or you, and did not join the opposing wagon.

On July 02 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
whos scum

that's a good question. Fuba, who is scum?
If it's Stutters can you repost your reasoning for him being scum?
Also do you have any other scumreads?



The Plan:
We are doing the massclaim first thing on D2. Here's how:
- everyone posts a list of names, where the first name is the scummiest and the last on towniest (exclude yourself).
- we give points to the lists, the scummiest gets (1) and the towniest gets (how many of us are alive).
- the person with all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.

Agreed?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:56 GMT
#936
EBWOP:
- the person with least points when all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:57 GMT
#937
That's not complex marv. It also forces everyone to put their reads in order, and everyone can be queestioned about their order later.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#939
There is no point in doing the massclaim if someone just decides in which order we claim. Or if someone gets to decide, it has to be JarJar.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:07 GMT
#942
marv, do you believe Lazer's claim is legit?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:21 GMT
#949
On July 03 2013 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, do you believe Lazer's claim is legit?

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.

This was the answer I got from him when i asked basically the same thing.
Rayn do you still think marv is town?

Basically, marv has zero reasons to not trust the un-cc'd cop claim.
No i do not.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:23 GMT
#950
On July 03 2013 02:19 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.

I'm not sure how you think this would happen.

Stutters have you really never been mislynched? I'm trying to think of games we've been in together and I know you're under the gun pretty often for your activity and such. I'm willing to accept your explanation regarding Vivax as it does seem to fit but as I said earlier I'd like to see something new from you that doesn't seem to echo his sentiments, and since he's not here apparently, this would be the perfect time.
What are your thoughts regarding Lazer or gumshoe currently? Do you still feel the same way about Fuba?

Outside of WLIIA, and that was clearly the best option in that game. Marv can explain better prob, I think it was his idea.

Fuba is still #1 scum to me. He's dodging questions and his responses have been non-specific summaries where he just calls people scum instead of showing why they are through analysis.

Gumshoe I need to dive similarly to how I did you. That's coming up next.

With the mass claim Lazer is a non factor. I'm assuming he isn't going to be counterclaimed and that means he must be dead in 2 nights or he'll start confirming people left and right and scum is fucked if they can even survive a mass claim. If he's still alive we re-evaluate then, until then we don't lynch him.

That's bad. It's gonna be LYLO D3 assuming worst case scenario and there are always people who are hesitant to lynch claimed blues.
Also the fact that if he checks whoever N1 and claims roleblocked N2 he can't have any info on D3 and that's not even alignment indicative.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:25 GMT
#951
No fuck, in worst case scenario it's MYLO D2.
marv & Lazer scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:30 GMT
#955
if marv is miller he has zero reason to not believe un-cc'd cop claim. therefore marv is fakeclaiming, there is no millers, there is no cop, and Lazer got an easy fakeclaim aswell. They only have to survive to N2 to win with 2KP, unless third scum is lynched.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:32 GMT
#957
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:34 GMT
#958
as i do not think there are 3 blues, and gumshoe can't know if there is another one.
Lazer could be town due to his claim but that does not change the fact that marv should not doubt his claim.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:39 GMT
#962
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:40 GMT
#963
Also WoS, understand that barring a vet/JK save we lose on N2 if we mislynch D2.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:57 GMT
#968
On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:00 GMT
#970
On July 03 2013 02:54 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.


0_0, sorry, I'm slow. In small words why would Marv have no reason to doubt Lazer if hes miller? And yeah I agree, there is either no miller or Marv is miller. If Marv isn't miller though did he just make another ridicules balls to the wall claim this game? Havent you considered that extremely unlikely for some time now?

Because it's extremely unlike the setup would be miller + no cop. If i was a miller i would 100% assume there is a cop.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:03 GMT
#971
On July 03 2013 02:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.

Why would you assume that?
Do you think it's fair for there to be the possibility of millers and D2 MYLO if we only get 2 blue roles?

Yes i do. If the setup is for example vengeful townie + Vet vs 3 goons. Vet/venge are both "protective" roles. That's a fair assumption. If htere were miller(s) there would be a cop, because millers help parity cops (they can base their checks on them).

Also once one scum dies their KP is 1. Also the "claim role names" helps town, as it's harder for scum to fakeclaim.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:06 GMT
#973
If there was a counter-claim it would have been in thread already.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:06 GMT
#974
and marv knows that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:10 GMT
#975
I'm looking forward to what other people think about this. Especially Vivax/Oats.
Now i fucking know why it was hard to find scum after D1 ended.
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2 days
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko350
StarCraft: Brood War
Stork 543
ZerO 312
firebathero 200
Barracks 195
sorry 138
Last 133
Pusan 100
ToSsGirL 100
Zeus 96
PianO 71
[ Show more ]
Hyun 56
soO 38
Mong 35
hero 32
Sacsri 25
yabsab 21
NaDa 15
scan(afreeca) 11
SilentControl 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe664
League of Legends
JimRising 829
C9.Mang0536
Counter-Strike
allub266
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi31
Other Games
summit1g10253
ceh9442
RotterdaM240
Fuzer 209
Mew2King177
Pyrionflax162
minikerr24
ZerO(Twitch)23
B2W.Neo9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick918
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 64
• Light_VIP 35
• LUISG 22
• Adnapsc2 8
• naamasc26
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2332
League of Legends
• Jankos2631
Upcoming Events
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
OSC
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.