• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:32
CET 03:32
KST 11:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT24Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0226LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
A new season just kicks off BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Tik Tok Parody about starcraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2395 users

Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 10

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 07:46 GMT
#845
Actually Stutters' behaviour during the end of the phase is really weird.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:49 GMT
#933
On July 02 2013 21:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so people who are most likely town:
JarJar, Lazer, marv, Vivax, Oats, gumshoe
Why is gumshoe most likely town? What about my case don't you like? (Especially the stuff about the mass claim).

Also, you think it's reasonable to assume that I'm town and there was no mafia were pushing my lynch yesterday?

Do i still need to comment on your case on gumshoe as he claimed blue?
People voting for you in chronological order; gumshoe, Lazer, me, Stutters.
gumshoe & Lazer have claimed blue, i am town, if there is scum in your wagon it has to be Stutters, unless one of those blue claims is fake.

Opposing wagons at that time were; me and to some extent WoS.
Vivax and Oats were voting for me, i don't think either of them is scum.

Mafia pretty much didn't need to push any lynch (if you are town) as both of the main wagons were town, and probably pushed by town (i do not think either of the blue claim is fake). People who should be looked more closely to are those who did not push any lynch, did defend either me or you, and did not join the opposing wagon.

On July 02 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
whos scum

that's a good question. Fuba, who is scum?
If it's Stutters can you repost your reasoning for him being scum?
Also do you have any other scumreads?



The Plan:
We are doing the massclaim first thing on D2. Here's how:
- everyone posts a list of names, where the first name is the scummiest and the last on towniest (exclude yourself).
- we give points to the lists, the scummiest gets (1) and the towniest gets (how many of us are alive).
- the person with all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.

Agreed?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:56 GMT
#936
EBWOP:
- the person with least points when all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:57 GMT
#937
That's not complex marv. It also forces everyone to put their reads in order, and everyone can be queestioned about their order later.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#939
There is no point in doing the massclaim if someone just decides in which order we claim. Or if someone gets to decide, it has to be JarJar.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:07 GMT
#942
marv, do you believe Lazer's claim is legit?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:21 GMT
#949
On July 03 2013 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, do you believe Lazer's claim is legit?

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.

This was the answer I got from him when i asked basically the same thing.
Rayn do you still think marv is town?

Basically, marv has zero reasons to not trust the un-cc'd cop claim.
No i do not.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:23 GMT
#950
On July 03 2013 02:19 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.

I'm not sure how you think this would happen.

Stutters have you really never been mislynched? I'm trying to think of games we've been in together and I know you're under the gun pretty often for your activity and such. I'm willing to accept your explanation regarding Vivax as it does seem to fit but as I said earlier I'd like to see something new from you that doesn't seem to echo his sentiments, and since he's not here apparently, this would be the perfect time.
What are your thoughts regarding Lazer or gumshoe currently? Do you still feel the same way about Fuba?

Outside of WLIIA, and that was clearly the best option in that game. Marv can explain better prob, I think it was his idea.

Fuba is still #1 scum to me. He's dodging questions and his responses have been non-specific summaries where he just calls people scum instead of showing why they are through analysis.

Gumshoe I need to dive similarly to how I did you. That's coming up next.

With the mass claim Lazer is a non factor. I'm assuming he isn't going to be counterclaimed and that means he must be dead in 2 nights or he'll start confirming people left and right and scum is fucked if they can even survive a mass claim. If he's still alive we re-evaluate then, until then we don't lynch him.

That's bad. It's gonna be LYLO D3 assuming worst case scenario and there are always people who are hesitant to lynch claimed blues.
Also the fact that if he checks whoever N1 and claims roleblocked N2 he can't have any info on D3 and that's not even alignment indicative.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:25 GMT
#951
No fuck, in worst case scenario it's MYLO D2.
marv & Lazer scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:30 GMT
#955
if marv is miller he has zero reason to not believe un-cc'd cop claim. therefore marv is fakeclaiming, there is no millers, there is no cop, and Lazer got an easy fakeclaim aswell. They only have to survive to N2 to win with 2KP, unless third scum is lynched.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:32 GMT
#957
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:34 GMT
#958
as i do not think there are 3 blues, and gumshoe can't know if there is another one.
Lazer could be town due to his claim but that does not change the fact that marv should not doubt his claim.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:39 GMT
#962
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:40 GMT
#963
Also WoS, understand that barring a vet/JK save we lose on N2 if we mislynch D2.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:57 GMT
#968
On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:00 GMT
#970
On July 03 2013 02:54 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.


0_0, sorry, I'm slow. In small words why would Marv have no reason to doubt Lazer if hes miller? And yeah I agree, there is either no miller or Marv is miller. If Marv isn't miller though did he just make another ridicules balls to the wall claim this game? Havent you considered that extremely unlikely for some time now?

Because it's extremely unlike the setup would be miller + no cop. If i was a miller i would 100% assume there is a cop.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:03 GMT
#971
On July 03 2013 02:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.

Why would you assume that?
Do you think it's fair for there to be the possibility of millers and D2 MYLO if we only get 2 blue roles?

Yes i do. If the setup is for example vengeful townie + Vet vs 3 goons. Vet/venge are both "protective" roles. That's a fair assumption. If htere were miller(s) there would be a cop, because millers help parity cops (they can base their checks on them).

Also once one scum dies their KP is 1. Also the "claim role names" helps town, as it's harder for scum to fakeclaim.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:06 GMT
#973
If there was a counter-claim it would have been in thread already.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:06 GMT
#974
and marv knows that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:10 GMT
#975
I'm looking forward to what other people think about this. Especially Vivax/Oats.
Now i fucking know why it was hard to find scum after D1 ended.
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Group D
CranKy Ducklings142
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 211
NeuroSwarm 195
ProTech132
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 810
Bale 3
Dota 2
monkeys_forever355
420jenkins257
febbydoto12
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear8
Counter-Strike
fl0m2163
taco 896
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor151
Other Games
summit1g9388
C9.Mang0492
JimRising 476
Trikslyr64
ToD62
KnowMe26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1065
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta43
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4317
• Scarra956
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
6h 28m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
7h 28m
Epic.LAN
9h 28m
Replay Cast
21h 28m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 6h
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 7h
Epic.LAN
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.