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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 07:46 GMT
#845
Actually Stutters' behaviour during the end of the phase is really weird.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:49 GMT
#933
On July 02 2013 21:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:
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On July 02 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so people who are most likely town:
JarJar, Lazer, marv, Vivax, Oats, gumshoe
Why is gumshoe most likely town? What about my case don't you like? (Especially the stuff about the mass claim).

Also, you think it's reasonable to assume that I'm town and there was no mafia were pushing my lynch yesterday?

Do i still need to comment on your case on gumshoe as he claimed blue?
People voting for you in chronological order; gumshoe, Lazer, me, Stutters.
gumshoe & Lazer have claimed blue, i am town, if there is scum in your wagon it has to be Stutters, unless one of those blue claims is fake.

Opposing wagons at that time were; me and to some extent WoS.
Vivax and Oats were voting for me, i don't think either of them is scum.

Mafia pretty much didn't need to push any lynch (if you are town) as both of the main wagons were town, and probably pushed by town (i do not think either of the blue claim is fake). People who should be looked more closely to are those who did not push any lynch, did defend either me or you, and did not join the opposing wagon.

On July 02 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
whos scum

that's a good question. Fuba, who is scum?
If it's Stutters can you repost your reasoning for him being scum?
Also do you have any other scumreads?



The Plan:
We are doing the massclaim first thing on D2. Here's how:
- everyone posts a list of names, where the first name is the scummiest and the last on towniest (exclude yourself).
- we give points to the lists, the scummiest gets (1) and the towniest gets (how many of us are alive).
- the person with all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.

Agreed?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:56 GMT
#936
EBWOP:
- the person with least points when all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 16:57 GMT
#937
That's not complex marv. It also forces everyone to put their reads in order, and everyone can be queestioned about their order later.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#939
There is no point in doing the massclaim if someone just decides in which order we claim. Or if someone gets to decide, it has to be JarJar.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:07 GMT
#942
marv, do you believe Lazer's claim is legit?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:21 GMT
#949
On July 03 2013 02:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 03 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, do you believe Lazer's claim is legit?

Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.

This was the answer I got from him when i asked basically the same thing.
Rayn do you still think marv is town?

Basically, marv has zero reasons to not trust the un-cc'd cop claim.
No i do not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:23 GMT
#950
On July 03 2013 02:19 Stutters695 wrote:
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On July 03 2013 01:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.

I'm not sure how you think this would happen.

Stutters have you really never been mislynched? I'm trying to think of games we've been in together and I know you're under the gun pretty often for your activity and such. I'm willing to accept your explanation regarding Vivax as it does seem to fit but as I said earlier I'd like to see something new from you that doesn't seem to echo his sentiments, and since he's not here apparently, this would be the perfect time.
What are your thoughts regarding Lazer or gumshoe currently? Do you still feel the same way about Fuba?

Outside of WLIIA, and that was clearly the best option in that game. Marv can explain better prob, I think it was his idea.

Fuba is still #1 scum to me. He's dodging questions and his responses have been non-specific summaries where he just calls people scum instead of showing why they are through analysis.

Gumshoe I need to dive similarly to how I did you. That's coming up next.

With the mass claim Lazer is a non factor. I'm assuming he isn't going to be counterclaimed and that means he must be dead in 2 nights or he'll start confirming people left and right and scum is fucked if they can even survive a mass claim. If he's still alive we re-evaluate then, until then we don't lynch him.

That's bad. It's gonna be LYLO D3 assuming worst case scenario and there are always people who are hesitant to lynch claimed blues.
Also the fact that if he checks whoever N1 and claims roleblocked N2 he can't have any info on D3 and that's not even alignment indicative.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:25 GMT
#951
No fuck, in worst case scenario it's MYLO D2.
marv & Lazer scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:30 GMT
#955
if marv is miller he has zero reason to not believe un-cc'd cop claim. therefore marv is fakeclaiming, there is no millers, there is no cop, and Lazer got an easy fakeclaim aswell. They only have to survive to N2 to win with 2KP, unless third scum is lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:32 GMT
#957
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:34 GMT
#958
as i do not think there are 3 blues, and gumshoe can't know if there is another one.
Lazer could be town due to his claim but that does not change the fact that marv should not doubt his claim.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:39 GMT
#962
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:40 GMT
#963
Also WoS, understand that barring a vet/JK save we lose on N2 if we mislynch D2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 17:57 GMT
#968
On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:00 GMT
#970
On July 03 2013 02:54 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.


0_0, sorry, I'm slow. In small words why would Marv have no reason to doubt Lazer if hes miller? And yeah I agree, there is either no miller or Marv is miller. If Marv isn't miller though did he just make another ridicules balls to the wall claim this game? Havent you considered that extremely unlikely for some time now?

Because it's extremely unlike the setup would be miller + no cop. If i was a miller i would 100% assume there is a cop.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:03 GMT
#971
On July 03 2013 02:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.
Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.

Why would you assume that?
Do you think it's fair for there to be the possibility of millers and D2 MYLO if we only get 2 blue roles?

Yes i do. If the setup is for example vengeful townie + Vet vs 3 goons. Vet/venge are both "protective" roles. That's a fair assumption. If htere were miller(s) there would be a cop, because millers help parity cops (they can base their checks on them).

Also once one scum dies their KP is 1. Also the "claim role names" helps town, as it's harder for scum to fakeclaim.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:06 GMT
#973
If there was a counter-claim it would have been in thread already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:06 GMT
#974
and marv knows that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:10 GMT
#975
I'm looking forward to what other people think about this. Especially Vivax/Oats.
Now i fucking know why it was hard to find scum after D1 ended.
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