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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 15 2013 20:52 GMT
#3381
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 20:56 GMT
#3382
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 20:57 GMT
#3383
In all honesty, if we were super duper smart and all masoned together as town, we should have just pumped Ace up as super duper duper duper town.

Everyone says Ace is confirmed town:
  • Ace gets NKed if he's town
  • Ace is scum if not NKed, because he's not a viable lynch
But we missed the boat on that one and it relies on so much wink wink nudge nudge
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 15 2013 21:01 GMT
#3384
On July 16 2013 05:26 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gumshoe why you play like that .

SnB is shitting on lynch, SnB, why did you shit on lynch and not provide alternatives?

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 01:51 strongandbig wrote:
I'm down to lynch geript for using his defense on jampi, but I'd rather lynch Austin.

I don't understand why stutters would have given ace the nuke, then told us it was fake, if it was actually real and stutters is scum. That whole concept just doesn't really compute for me, what action would he have been trying to induce by the lie.

If people really think Maju is scum then I don't think it makes sense to let the nuke land "just in case" stutters was lying and it's real. If you think Maju is scum, lynch him. Then lynch stutters if you think him lying about his role is a scum tell. But we know he lied about his role at least once, how does it make a difference if he lied a second time and the first time was actually the true one.


doing a lurker lynch for no reason was stupid and was probably an idea pushed by scum. a last minute lurker switch on freaking day 3? just shows the town has no momentum to get anything done. probably the town can't get anything done at this point. but the town actually never got anything done in the first place.

that's why austin and probably ace at this point are scum. if they were town and as active as they are being, this would never have happened.

lucky for them that there are apparently no townies who care enough to actually try organizing people.

lol really?
So you calling me scum breh?

List post inc.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 15 2013 21:03 GMT
#3385
On July 16 2013 06:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 05:26 strongandbig wrote:
On July 15 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gumshoe why you play like that .

SnB is shitting on lynch, SnB, why did you shit on lynch and not provide alternatives?

On July 15 2013 01:51 strongandbig wrote:
I'm down to lynch geript for using his defense on jampi, but I'd rather lynch Austin.

I don't understand why stutters would have given ace the nuke, then told us it was fake, if it was actually real and stutters is scum. That whole concept just doesn't really compute for me, what action would he have been trying to induce by the lie.

If people really think Maju is scum then I don't think it makes sense to let the nuke land "just in case" stutters was lying and it's real. If you think Maju is scum, lynch him. Then lynch stutters if you think him lying about his role is a scum tell. But we know he lied about his role at least once, how does it make a difference if he lied a second time and the first time was actually the true one.


doing a lurker lynch for no reason was stupid and was probably an idea pushed by scum. a last minute lurker switch on freaking day 3? just shows the town has no momentum to get anything done. probably the town can't get anything done at this point. but the town actually never got anything done in the first place.

that's why austin and probably ace at this point are scum. if they were town and as active as they are being, this would never have happened.

lucky for them that there are apparently no townies who care enough to actually try organizing people.

lol really?
So you calling me scum breh?

List post inc.

I think there's something off about you that I can't put my finger on. But maybe it's just those nagging feelings I always have about you. IDK, I just don't see you as scum though.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 15 2013 21:04 GMT
#3386
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.

I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!


+ Show Spoiler +
thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 21:05 GMT
#3387
You don't have as much reason to trust this as I do, geript, but I think mafia was in a good enough spot yesterday that they didn't need to split themselves over trying to lynch me. Given WoS's insistence that I'm town instead of even halfway trying to lynch me, I don't think that he can be mafia.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 21:06 GMT
#3388
On July 16 2013 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.

I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!


+ Show Spoiler +
thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance.
Chez makes game interesting.

Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see.

Therefore, Chez isn't Chez.

So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town.
Fe fi fo fum.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 15 2013 21:07 GMT
#3389
On July 16 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.

I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!


+ Show Spoiler +
thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance.
Chez makes game interesting.

Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see.

Therefore, Chez isn't Chez.

So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town.

I wasn't here yesterday. That was just one day. But I R here now!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 15 2013 21:13 GMT
#3390
On July 16 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.

I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!


+ Show Spoiler +
thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance.
Chez makes game interesting.

Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see.

Therefore, Chez isn't Chez.

So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town.

Oh are you talking about the lack of people wanting to kill me? I've been thinking about that. I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 15 2013 21:16 GMT
#3391
Koshi - Mostly gutread which is why I don't think he's STRONGLY town, but he pretty blatantly sheeped me all of yesterday regardless of where I went. Kinda stupid to do as scum unless he knows me and how bad I am at picking out scum usually (he doesn't).
Oats - Actively shot down nukes on townies super early. Makes no sense to do for towncred imo. Since him and Geript have the same role I would bet specifically in this case that there is no way they are both town, so if I'm wrong about Geript, he is scum.

Stutters - No fucking clue. Leaning town on him a little since fake nuke and all but meh.
Sentinel - nuked scum.

Ace - Leaning town honestly. Can't be sure why, but he had plenty of plays he could have made as scum but didn't. For whoever says it makes sense as scum to shoot him early, Ace has a pretty hefty mislynch history recently and doesn't play in a 'cleanly' town way that people would expect him to, so he's difficult to read, hence good for mafia to leave up.

MajuGarzett - Fuck if I know but he's gotta die at this point.

Johnnywup - Not a superstrong townread but a town read nonetheless. His anger at the case I made on him early seemed genuine and he looks to be trying when it would be pretty easy just to lurk the fuck out since nobody pays much attention to him.

[green]Onegu/green] - Town. Pretty much has to be for that comment where he says he killed Tofu.

Geript - Not as strong of a scumread as I had earlier. Remember what I said about him and Oats and think about my case on him if we see flips on the people he was involved with earlier (ie MG)

Vayne - He really DOES change his playstyle from game to game. Whereas at one point this much activity and analysis could be considered a scumread, in his last game (where he was mislynched, hilariously) he played well and was town.

StrongandBig - I refuse to believe that everyone in this game is playing against their wincon so blatantly so kill this guy too.

Chezinu - No fucking idea. His play in LX looked a lot like this guy and he was scum.

Caucasianasian - Gutread. I dunno I can't see his scumteam letting him come back constantly and just post 'HAY GUYS I GIFF READS' and then disappears 80 times.

Alakaslam - This guy is psycho. To be fair I've never seen his scum play so I don't know if it would be as crazy but this certainly looks exactly like how he's been playing town thus far.

Austin - I have no idea honestly. I want to say with the effort he's thrown in over the last little while he'd be town but I just don't know him well enough to be able to tell for sure. I guess he did put in shit tons of effort like this in PTP and was scum....

Hmm. Too many townreads it seems. Have a look at Vayne. I'll downgrade him to null.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 21:16 GMT
#3392
On July 16 2013 06:13 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.

I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!


+ Show Spoiler +
thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance.
Chez makes game interesting.

Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see.

Therefore, Chez isn't Chez.

So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town.

Oh are you talking about the lack of people wanting to kill me? I've been thinking about that. I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything.
Nah. Just the lack of you ... doing you stuff?

Even if you were just absent yesterday, that would mean you weren't you yesterday, and weren't town yesterday, but I don't think your alignment changes, so you'd have to still be mafia?

I think that if you're you some days of this game and not you for other days of this game, you need that couch again.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#3393
On July 16 2013 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vayne - He really DOES change his playstyle from game to game. Whereas at one point this much activity and analysis could be considered a scumread, in his last game (where he was mislynched, hilariously) he played well and was town.
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. YOU ARE MAKING MY HEAD GET A HURT-Y FEELING.

He hung on a chez = scum read for more than a day, based on a gut read that was never explained further.

He voted jampi right at the end of D2 based on going back to some other game, not linking any specific posts, but saying jampi wasn't playing like himself that game. I repeat:
  • He didn't base his read on jampi's play THIS game, which had been somewhat discussed
  • He didn't post anything specific about the other game, just a base filter link

He voted me D3 because the hosts wouldn't answer a question of his.

His analysis of snb yesterday was that snb might be town, might be scum.
Fe fi fo fum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 15 2013 21:24 GMT
#3394
Sentinel, if you're here, I'd like to hear your reads because I think it's likely you will die tonight due to you being probably town
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 15 2013 21:24 GMT
#3395
On July 16 2013 06:19 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vayne - He really DOES change his playstyle from game to game. Whereas at one point this much activity and analysis could be considered a scumread, in his last game (where he was mislynched, hilariously) he played well and was town.
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. YOU ARE MAKING MY HEAD GET A HURT-Y FEELING.

He hung on a chez = scum read for more than a day, based on a gut read that was never explained further.

He voted jampi right at the end of D2 based on going back to some other game, not linking any specific posts, but saying jampi wasn't playing like himself that game. I repeat:
  • He didn't base his read on jampi's play THIS game, which had been somewhat discussed
  • He didn't post anything specific about the other game, just a base filter link

He voted me D3 because the hosts wouldn't answer a question of his.

His analysis of snb yesterday was that snb might be town, might be scum.

Did you read the end of my listpost?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 15 2013 21:27 GMT
#3396
On July 16 2013 06:16 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:13 Chezinu wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.

I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!


+ Show Spoiler +
thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance.
Chez makes game interesting.

Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see.

Therefore, Chez isn't Chez.

So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town.

Oh are you talking about the lack of people wanting to kill me? I've been thinking about that. I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything.
Nah. Just the lack of you ... doing you stuff?

Even if you were just absent yesterday, that would mean you weren't you yesterday, and weren't town yesterday, but I don't think your alignment changes, so you'd have to still be mafia?

I think that if you're you some days of this game and not you for other days of this game, you need that couch again.


I was at church yesterday. Other games don't have deadlines Sunday afternoons. What couch?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 21:28 GMT
#3397
My main thought about this game is that scum is in a good position, town is not.

Town, in order to win, has to analyze the game and push it forward. Therefore, people who post/analyze/push the game forward are town, and people who don't do so are null/scum.

Posts in which you call everyone in the game mafia - + Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2013 05:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 04:52 johnnywup wrote:
On July 16 2013 04:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
gonna have to agree with geript. Koshi is scum or just...wow. Pretty much disagree with that entire post he just made. I went through the list of people in this game and realize I dont trust a single person. Hard to narrow it down to a team of scum.

You don't trust anyone?


not really lets go through

koshi - dont agree with any of his opinions, seems like he's being told by some one else what to say as his reads and stuff are completely outdated and only fit a motive that is clearly not town; he is holding on to lynches on people that others want to but gives the same reason for other people being lynchable but since town is okay with them he is too!

Oatsmaster - generally way more involved than this, but he has defended town with his anti defenses and stuff...shrug mostly comes down to inactivity making me slightly weary. Once he got his towncred he checked out of the thread and that worries me.

Stutters - All this fake claiming nonsense, doesn't really help his cause

Z-Boson - Same as koshi, keeps ancient/outdated reads that look to serve some outside purpose. He's kind of flying under the radar too for the most which isn't condemning but is strange

Sentinel - OK I can maybe trust sentinel, thats about it.

Ace - Thought he was confirmed town until his connection to the whole stutters thing and his last second "im good with gumshoe" now not so sure.

Majugarzett - uh yea, about him. why is he still alive

Johnnywup - My first reads are usually good but I stayed away from him after he picked it up. As of late though I am suspicious due to paranoid reasons as since then he's gone completely under the radar.

Onegu - Immune one claim, hasn't done much shrug. no reason to trust him

Geript - Thought he was scummy by actions and posts but people keep throwing these ridiculous conspiracy theories at him that sound batshit insane if he was actually scum. Hard to tell whats going on there.

strongandbig - Thought he was suspicious then out of nowhere people start chiming in how he is super suspicious and almost gets lynched but then people switch to gumshoe last second. Hard to believe yourself when you got people coming out of nowhere to agree with you.

CA - lurker

Alakasam - complete nonsense filter, wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum

WaveofShadow - He seems to be town but then some of his posts really throw me off. Think he is town but another paranoid thing.

Chezinu - scum

Austin - scum

- don't actually do analysis and don't push the game forwards. VA knows that not everyone in the game is scum, no matter his alignment. But he puts absolutely no effort into trying to figure out who is and isn't, he's content to post his "reads" which is just everyone sucks.

On July 16 2013 04:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
Oats is also a lot afk, but Oats is considered town, but I would like to see him more active. SnB is not putting enough time in this game, he could be scum very easily.

lol this is great. So popular opinion dictates Oats is town so I won't try to mislynch him, but SnB is scum for the same reason, and hey magically everyone is suspicious of him too!

This is a real post, or the start of a real line of reasoning. Here are two guys I think are similar, but people are reading them differently. Okay, great, that's actually analyzing this game and trying to move forward.

BUT WAIT. THERE'S (NO) MORE! He doesn't note Oats's role. Doesn't consider snb yesterday, actually look at stuff, was content with maybe scum or maybe town. He's making statements that COULD be townie trains of thought, but he's never actually developing the thoughts. They are just throwaway statements with no work behind them, he's not seeking to SOLVE the game, he's seeking to COMMENT on the game. And always in a negative light.


If I die tonight scum is sillypants. But.....this is one of the easier rules to apply to the game, imo. Town is trying to solve the game and move it forward from this point. Scum is just sitting here. People who refuse to comment on stuff, refuse to analyze the players up for lynch, they are not playing for town.

Anyone actively working to solve the game and post MAY be scum, but it's more likely, imo, that this game has just been not a great one for town, and so most townies have done things or placed votes that look scummy. Therefore, more important than who has lynched what, given that all of us have lynched town each day, is how people are playing. VA is not analyzing, is not playing for town, and is scum.

It's one reason I'm still somewhat townie on geript. There are some hitches, but I read those as just scummy things that a townie has done in a game, because he's still actively playing from a townie mindset imo and trying to solve the game. Scum is sitting so pretty, they absolutely don't care about that right now.

Go read like...personality 2. Our scum team crushed face that game, and by the last day we didn't give a crap. We were joking in QT, halfway outing ourselves in threads with our awful play and voting, but it didn't even matter. Town was so confused and mixed up that it didn't matter. But townies were still trying to SOLVE the game, while we were being dicks.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 21:30 GMT
#3398
On July 16 2013 06:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 16 2013 06:19 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vayne - He really DOES change his playstyle from game to game. Whereas at one point this much activity and analysis could be considered a scumread, in his last game (where he was mislynched, hilariously) he played well and was town.
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. YOU ARE MAKING MY HEAD GET A HURT-Y FEELING.

He hung on a chez = scum read for more than a day, based on a gut read that was never explained further.

He voted jampi right at the end of D2 based on going back to some other game, not linking any specific posts, but saying jampi wasn't playing like himself that game. I repeat:
  • He didn't base his read on jampi's play THIS game, which had been somewhat discussed
  • He didn't post anything specific about the other game, just a base filter link

He voted me D3 because the hosts wouldn't answer a question of his.

His analysis of snb yesterday was that snb might be town, might be scum.

Did you read the end of my listpost?
I did. Downgrading him to null because you have townreads ... that's not really much. My concern is for your actual analysis and how you read him before you had too many townreads.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 15 2013 21:32 GMT
#3399
On July 16 2013 06:27 Chezinu wrote:
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On July 16 2013 06:16 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:13 Chezinu wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:04 Chezinu wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote:
Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez
Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.

alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game.

I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!


+ Show Spoiler +
thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance.
Chez makes game interesting.

Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see.

Therefore, Chez isn't Chez.

So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town.
Wasn't this the game where you sat down on ... geript or someone's couch earlier on? You say
Oh are you talking about the lack of people wanting to kill me? I've been thinking about that. I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything.
Nah. Just the lack of you ... doing you stuff?

Even if you were just absent yesterday, that would mean you weren't you yesterday, and weren't town yesterday, but I don't think your alignment changes, so you'd have to still be mafia?

I think that if you're you some days of this game and not you for other days of this game, you need that couch again.


I was at church yesterday. Other games don't have deadlines Sunday afternoons. What couch?

Wasn't this the game where you laid down on Geript or someone's couch early on? You say "I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything," but what I hear is "I want to sleep with my mother, but cannot. Therefore, I feel powerless."
Fe fi fo fum.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 15 2013 21:32 GMT
#3400
On July 16 2013 05:41 austinmcc wrote:
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On July 16 2013 05:36 strongandbig wrote:
and if you guys still think me being inactive means i'm scum then check this gem of a town filter.
or also mtg mini mafia where i got bored and left marv to play the game by himself.

some games are less motivating to me than others but it's not alignment indicative.

so if you all still want to lynch me then whatever but know that you're stupid for it.
snb, let's play this game, if you really want to. Here's a post where someone actually went and looked at past games of yours:
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On July 15 2013 04:58 austinmcc wrote:
strongandbig's reads/notes this game:

scum - Vayne is xatalos if scum, johnnywup, gumshoe, DI, Nirvana.Gabo, Vayne, gumshoe, oatsmaster, oatsmaster again and possible xatalos, DI, vayne, austinmcc, vayne, DI, oatsmaster, DI/vayne/oats/austinmcc, VA/austinmcc, vayne, gumshoe, ace maybe or stutters, austinmcc, geript/austinmcc,

town - ace, rayn, ace, maybe vayne (after DI flipped), maybe maju?,

As I was poking through his filter I noticed how lopsided it was. Everyone and their mother is scum. Ace and rayn are his only townreads, and he ever drops the "why is Ace still alive if he had a nuke and is Ace?" after N2, indicates that ace maybe isn't town. However, despite calling nearly everyone scum, he barely ever mentions maju. First mention of maju is today:
On July 15 2013 01:51 strongandbig wrote:
I'm down to lynch geript for using his defense on jampi, but I'd rather lynch Austin.

I don't understand why stutters would have given ace the nuke, then told us it was fake, if it was actually real and stutters is scum. That whole concept just doesn't really compute for me, what action would he have been trying to induce by the lie.

If people really think Maju is scum then I don't think it makes sense to let the nuke land "just in case" stutters was lying and it's real. If you think Maju is scum, lynch him. Then lynch stutters if you think him lying about his role is a scum tell. But we know he lied about his role at least once, how does it make a difference if he lied a second time and the first time was actually the true one.

in which he...actually doesn't directly address maju himself. He says what others should do based on their feelings about maju.






I wanted to compare that to some recent past games.

Bastard "Mini" (snb town i think)
scum - maybe prome, yamato, zealos, sentinel, prome, zealos,
town - rayn,
3P - palmar

(Game was ended due to lack of people playing. But in his filter there, 4 people scum, 1 town, palmar 3P).

Carnival Cruise (snb scum)
scum - DarthPunk maybe, oats, obviousone (votes after sheeping WoS), either oats or obviousone, hiropro, prome maybe, oats, maybe shirokami or prplhz, maybe sloosh, maybe kush,
town - maybe slOosh and rayn, VE, WoS

Boardwalk Empire (town)
scum - "would lynch" shelvocke/artanis and maybe VE, maybe oo, artanis/shelvocke/VE, oo/shelvocke/maybe MZ, would lynch sinani or oo, oo or sharrant, oo/geript/shelvocke/sharrant, RO/vivax
town - "would not lynch" palmar, keirathi, rayn, MZ, probably sinani, geript, oatsmaster, maybe sinani/mocsta/yamato/vivax/keirathi,

RED Team's Prize (town)
scum - prplhz, maybe acro, would lynch grackaroni/nisani, acro, maybe acro, obviousone,
town - maybe acro, maybe prplhz, hapahauli (snb was one-shot medic and healed him N1),

screw it this is too much snb focus. I'm stopping once i hit this post - + Show Spoiler +
On March 30 2013 07:40 strongandbig wrote:
sinani206
Grackaroni
Nisani201
marvellosity
Oatsmaster
Acrofales
Dandel Ion
Keirathi
raynpelikoneet
strongandbig
Palmar
cDgCorazon
Hapahauli
prplhz
ObviousOne
InsertSmurfHere




The one-sidedness of snb's reads struck me as odd. It's not all of his games, and ymmv, but I personally see MORE townreads (and more reasoning in general) in his town games. In his scum game above, he had 2 hard town reads, a couple maybe town reads, and then mostly scum. In his town games, he'll post a thing of all his town/scumreads with a bunch of green names, have more people he doesn't want to lynch, etc.

(1) Game is easier for scum if they primarily have scumreads, can lynch most anyone. If you give a bunch of townreads, your lynch options are limited and come mid/lategame you have to backtrack on early townreads in order to lynch folks.

(2) I'm not super duper digging again, you can click the links yourself, but I generally found town snb to sometimes be sheepy or...he'd say like "i'll lynch these 3-4 people." In this game, he started that way on D2, giving 4 folks he'd lynch or wanted to lynch, but didn't keep with it like I saw in other games.

(3) I'm town, stutters. But after looking at this stuff, I'm fine lynching into immune ones and going after snb. His posting has been butt, he hasn't been giving much of his own thoughts this game, and he's so scumread heavy.

Surprise. I did that. I went and looked at your games, so stop asking people to go look at your games, and stop saying it's just about activity/inactivity.

I've seen you modkilled/warned for inactivity as town, that's true. But in your town games, and I could go pull a number of other differences, you give your thoughts on people. Some folks are scum, some are town. You may have lazy lynches where you choose 3-4 people and say you'd lynch any, but within this game, you've decided to do nothing but (1) do nothing or (2) call people scum.

Would you care to explain who is town this game and why? Who you just THINK is town?


this is a lot of form and not a lot of content. you write out lists but dont analyze those lists in any way except for your impressions.

also the idea that not having town reads is scum motivated is retarded. town reads are way easier when you're scum because you know who is town, lol. there's no one in this game who i trust as town and think is worth listening to.

oh also regarding the maju thing - i wanted to lynch you. but i also thought townies were being stupid about maju and told them so.
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