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On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:Quoted Player List for reference:We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.
On June 08 2013 16:07 Blazinghand wrote:sorry am eating dinner will get back to you soon here is screenshot of dinner for proof ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ukN9z.png)
I'm doing this from phone, so TY to Blazinghand.
Will actually post photo for proof when finished because I'm psycho like that, and cannot yet handle is cleansing and healthy diet of oolong and green teas in white dishware. And because a large American family Sunday dinner is bamcis.
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Ebwop
There are only 3 blue roles for scum so it is 66% they have one.
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Chromatically, do you have any scumreads?
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On June 24 2013 13:12 Onegu wrote:
Ebwop
There are only 3 blue roles for scum so it is 66% they have one.
Godfather? They for sure have one right? Or is Rita Repulsa not guaranteed?
Faugh! I shall return post dinner.
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EBWOp: oh onegu you are talking about a tracker. That is probably most dangerous to Lord Zedd.
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On June 24 2013 13:00 Chromatically wrote:
hz, do you have any scumreads?
At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like:
Attack Chromatically
Attack Xzavier
Attack Hurricane
Attack Spicy
Defend Hurricane
Defend Xzavier
Attack Spicy
For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did.
I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.
He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum.
Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.
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Ebwop x2 as long as tracker is mafia.
So... Going to eat now. I'm taking longest to eat lol
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On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:Quoted Player List for reference:We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.
You wound me.
Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.
The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.
Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.
No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)
Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.
1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up. What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?
Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.
2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.
##Vote: Chromatically
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On June 24 2013 13:12 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Chromatically, do you have any scumreads?
Right now, I'm looking at Xzavier and hzflank. Both have posted a bit, but neither have been scumhunting. hz's recent post makes me feel a little better, but it did only come when I specifically asked him and I don't really agree with it. That doesn't necessarily make him scum though.
There are also some other small things that bother me, but I'll elaborate on those later.
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On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:Quoted Player List for reference:We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow. You wound me. Regarding claimsI'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles. The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum. Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means. No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.) Regarding scumCurrent scumread is Chromatically for two reasons. 1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me. Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up. What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread? Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous. 2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own. ##Vote: Chromatically
The argument against NN/ Alpha 5 claiming as it was explained to me in this thread is that it won't take a shot away from the power roles, but in fact do the opposite. Mafia might keep him around all game and take shots at the OTHER people since there is now a higher % chance that they are Power Roles. But what if our Parity Cop claimed NN! Brb WIFOM Hell. (That was joke.)
There are apparently a lot of other reasons NN should not claim now, but I'm not in the best position to elaborate since they are not my thoughts.
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On June 24 2013 13:22 hzflank wrote:At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like: Attack Chromatically Attack Xzavier Attack Hurricane Attack Spicy Defend Hurricane Defend Xzavier Attack Spicy For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did. I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.(1) He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum. Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.(2)
You are taking an extremely simplified approach to analyze my actions. I am not "attacking" or "defending" anyone. I am stating my opinions on how various people are behaving. If you can't distinguish between the two, we have a serious problem here. You can't say that my "defenses" are out of place without even looking at the context of the situation. Read my quote, see if it makes sense to you, and form an opinion based on that.
Furthermore, this post is as scummy as scummy gets. You state that you can side with me as I pursue a lynch on Spicy(see 1), but you also consider me to be the scummiest player(see 2). How are these two chain of thoughts compatible?
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On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:Quoted Player List for reference:We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow. You wound me. Regarding claimsI'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles. The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum. Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means. No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.) Regarding scumCurrent scumread is Chromatically for two reasons. 1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me. Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up. What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread? Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous. 2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own. ##Vote: Chromatically
As I have said before he provides a buffer to protect other blues, if there is a tracker for scum and it is likely and they know who nn is they can look to find other blue roles. Who cares if scum claim NN later we kill them anyway. If something wierd happens and the only explanation someone can give is I am NN we lynch them. All NN reveal does now is take away what little protection blues have.
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On June 24 2013 13:33 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:Quoted Player List for reference:We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow. You wound me. Regarding claimsI'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles. The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum. Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means. No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.) Regarding scumCurrent scumread is Chromatically for two reasons. 1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me. On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up. What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread? Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous. 2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own. ##Vote: Chromatically The argument against NN/ Alpha 5 claiming as it was explained to me in this thread is that it won't take a shot away from the power roles, but in fact do the opposite. Mafia might keep him around all game and take shots at the OTHER people since there is now a higher % chance that they are Power Roles. But what if our Parity Cop claimed NN! Brb WIFOM Hell. (That was joke.) There are apparently a lot of other reasons NN should not claim now, but I'm not in the best position to elaborate since they are not my thoughts.
That's certainly a possibility, but I think it's more important that we deny scum the opportunity to fakeclaim Nosy Neighbour later.
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If i was parity cop i would claim NN lol. be the best fucking play. But seriously dont do this.
Im just reading from phone now. will post a case or two in the morning.
Whens the deadline?
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On June 24 2013 13:37 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 13:33 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:Quoted Player List for reference:We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow. You wound me. Regarding claimsI'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles. The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum. Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means. No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.) Regarding scumCurrent scumread is Chromatically for two reasons. 1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me. On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up. What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread? Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous. 2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own. ##Vote: Chromatically The argument against NN/ Alpha 5 claiming as it was explained to me in this thread is that it won't take a shot away from the power roles, but in fact do the opposite. Mafia might keep him around all game and take shots at the OTHER people since there is now a higher % chance that they are Power Roles. But what if our Parity Cop claimed NN! Brb WIFOM Hell. (That was joke.) There are apparently a lot of other reasons NN should not claim now, but I'm not in the best position to elaborate since they are not my thoughts. That's certainly a possibility, but I think it's more important that we deny scum the opportunity to fakeclaim Nosy Neighbour later.
Unfortunately, you're assuming that there is only one Nosy Neighbor. There is a lot of assuming going on about power roles in this thread that I'm not comfortable with. Is this just because I haven't followed TL's brand of mafia long enough to pick up on meta role assignments?
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I honestly dont put much weight into watcher tracker until the NN is dead. which is why he cant claim. those roles become useful once he dies
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EBWOP: Of course, I made massive assumptions about power roles in my first post, so you guys telling me this sort of stuff is good, not bad.
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and a noisy neighbor claim means jackshit to me lol.
Imo. nobody claim. just scumhunt.
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On June 24 2013 13:41 Xzavier wrote:
and a noisy neighbor claim means jackshit to me lol.
Imo. nobody claim. just scumhunt.
Exactly
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EPT
