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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 24 2013 04:43 GMT
#221
On June 24 2013 13:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow


We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.

You wound me.

Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.

The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.

Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.

No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)

Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.

1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.

On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?

Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.

2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.

##Vote: Chromatically


As I have said before he provides a buffer to protect other blues, if there is a tracker for scum and it is likely and they know who nn is they can look to find other blue roles. Who cares if scum claim NN later we kill them anyway. If something wierd happens and the only explanation someone can give is I am NN we lynch them. All NN reveal does now is take away what little protection blues have.

It's more likely that town (with two possible track/watch roles) will be misled by an unclaimed Nosy Neighbour than scum. I'd prefer to know that anyone claiming it later is scum than to have scum know that one particular person does not have a PR. Scum generally prioritize shooting strong townies over blue-sniping anyway, and if a claimed Nosy Neighbour (who is thus likely town) plays a strong towngame they are FAR more likely to be shot.

tl;dr The advantage to town derived from scum not knowing who the NN is is tenuous at best and in my opinion non-existent.


Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 04:44 GMT
#222
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 13:27 FirmTofu wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow

[/QUOTE]
Lurkers: fyfy, Aquanium, LoneMeow, StiMaDDict, Alakaslam (Sorry, I know you said you were eating, but for all intents and purposes, you haven't posted at all.)
Let's keep a close watch on these guys before we start voting.[/QUOTE]

No no this is fair, I will read up real quick and post something worthwhile.

[url=http://imgur.com/jcBflCz][img]http://i.imgur.com/Axm9kMg.jpg[/img][/url]

There we are for the meantime.

I was the last one to leave the table.

I am thinking of how I can establish my innocence. Everyone should be doing this. The more town we confirm, the better off we are finding/accurately reading scum. I also think that I've messed that up, since I actually would like FirmTofu's case against me. I kind of went all Blazinghand, and I'm just not him.

+ Show Spoiler +


Nor am I Kenpachi. But I admire these two, and have only read I swear this is normal mini mafia and Aperture Mafia. So I was being all aloof and whatnot- Mi ne freggo, you know.

Note though, both of those games they were Town most of the time.

So for establishing MY innocence:

I haven't been the best town so far, I posted mostly defensive fluff, and the above in the spoiler. HOWEVER, as making the thread difficult to read is not the best thing for town, I put it in there. You are not obligated to read the contents of the spoiler! But feel free to.

I haven't posted much, posting from the table is kind of rude just as is texting from the table. But I managed, and that was probably unwise. I plan to read the thread, and give a case for people IN SPOILERS with a TL;DR above each one so as to keep stuff organized. Remember, scum wants: Confusion, lack of info, and difficulty to read thread.

So town: Keep it organized, I will be doing the same, and see you in a couple minutes. Let's go find some scum!


If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 04:47 GMT
#223
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

Hurricane Sponge
Onegu
Chromatically
Xzavier
StiMaDDict
FirmTofu
fyfy
hzflank
Alakaslam
Aquanim
Spicydinosaur
LoneMeow


Lurkers: fyfy, Aquanium, LoneMeow, StiMaDDict, Alakaslam (Sorry, I know you said you were eating, but for all intents and purposes, you haven't posted at all.)
Let's keep a close watch on these guys before we start voting.


No no this is fair, I will read up real quick and post something worthwhile.

[image loading]

There we are for the meantime.

I was the last one to leave the table.

I am thinking of how I can establish my innocence. Everyone should be doing this. The more town we confirm, the better off we are finding/accurately reading scum. I also think that I've messed that up, since I actually would like FirmTofu's case against me. I kind of went all Blazinghand, and I'm just not him.

+ Show Spoiler +
So for establishing MY innocence:

I haven't been the best town so far, I posted mostly defensive fluff, and the above in the spoiler. HOWEVER, as making the thread difficult to read is not the best thing for town, I put it in there. You are not obligated to read the contents of the spoiler! But feel free to.

I haven't posted much, posting from the table is kind of rude just as is texting from the table. But I managed, and that was probably unwise. I plan to read the thread, and give a case for people IN SPOILERS with a TL;DR above each one so as to keep stuff organized. Remember, scum wants: Confusion, lack of info, and difficulty to read thread.

So town: Keep it organized, I will be doing the same, and see you in a couple minutes. Let's go find some scum!

EBWOP ARGH YOU FOOLISH FIRMTOFU USE THE PREVIEW FEATURE!

+ Show Spoiler +
Hypocrisy! It's the human way. MAN I am so sorry guys
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 04:49 GMT
#224
Final ebwop before good substance. Read the first stupid post for the spoiler, it appears to be broken in the post I cleaned up. Firmtofu that was a mess lol
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
June 24 2013 04:50 GMT
#225
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 13:44 Alakaslam wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 13:27 FirmTofu wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
[QUOTE]On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow

[/QUOTE]
Lurkers: fyfy, Aquanium, LoneMeow, StiMaDDict, Alakaslam (Sorry, I know you said you were eating, but for all intents and purposes, you haven't posted at all.)
Let's keep a close watch on these guys before we start voting.[/QUOTE]

No no this is fair, I will read up real quick and post something worthwhile.

[url=http://imgur.com/jcBflCz][img]http://i.imgur.com/Axm9kMg.jpg[/img][/url]

There we are for the meantime.

I was the last one to leave the table.

I am thinking of how I can establish my innocence. Everyone should be doing this. The more town we confirm, the better off we are finding/accurately reading scum. I also think that I've messed that up, since I actually would like FirmTofu's case against me. I kind of went all Blazinghand, and I'm just not him.

+ Show Spoiler +


Nor am I Kenpachi. But I admire these two, and have only read I swear this is normal mini mafia and Aperture Mafia. So I was being all aloof and whatnot- Mi ne freggo, you know.

Note though, both of those games they were Town most of the time.

So for establishing MY innocence:

I haven't been the best town so far, I posted mostly defensive fluff, and the above in the spoiler. HOWEVER, as making the thread difficult to read is not the best thing for town, I put it in there. You are not obligated to read the contents of the spoiler! But feel free to.

I haven't posted much, posting from the table is kind of rude just as is texting from the table. But I managed, and that was probably unwise. I plan to read the thread, and give a case for people IN SPOILERS with a TL;DR above each one so as to keep stuff organized. Remember, scum wants: Confusion, lack of info, and difficulty to read thread.

So town: Keep it organized, I will be doing the same, and see you in a couple minutes. Let's go find some scum!


[/QUOTE]

How is this post in any way organized? This post is just more fluff also I dont know where you are going with any of your thoughts.
Try TL Mafia!!!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 24 2013 04:52 GMT
#226
On June 24 2013 13:34 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:22 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:00 Chromatically wrote:
hz, do you have any scumreads?


At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like:

Attack Chromatically
Attack Xzavier
Attack Hurricane
Attack Spicy
Defend Hurricane
Defend Xzavier
Attack Spicy

For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did.

I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.(1)

He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum.

Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.(2)

You are taking an extremely simplified approach to analyze my actions. I am not "attacking" or "defending" anyone. I am stating my opinions on how various people are behaving. If you can't distinguish between the two, we have a serious problem here. You can't say that my "defenses" are out of place without even looking at the context of the situation. Read my quote, see if it makes sense to you, and form an opinion based on that.

Furthermore, this post is as scummy as scummy gets. You state that you can side with me as I pursue a lynch on Spicy(see 1), but you also consider me to be the scummiest player(see 2). How are these two chain of thoughts compatible?


Maybe you prefer the term Poking to Attacking, it makes no difference to me as I am an RTS player by nature and so I attack for information. I read your filter several times, so it is not a case of me being lazy with my reading.

I did not say that you can count on my vote on Spicy. I will rephrase what I said to make it less ambiguous: I am wondering if Firm thinks that he can count on my vote on Spicy, and therefore thinks that Spicy is a good lynch target.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 24 2013 04:52 GMT
#227
Please, please stop reposting/quoting that.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 24 2013 05:10 GMT
#228
On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow


We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.

You wound me.

Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.

The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.

Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.

No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)

Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.

1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?

Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.

2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.

##Vote: Chromatically


My take on this: NN claiming is a bad idea as they are likely to be lynched day 1, which ensures that a town is lynched day 1. I come to this conclusion because the person claiming NN may be scum, but even if they are not they do not have a useful town power role and the NN might harm the town later. For me, the day that an NN claims is the day that an NN is likely to be lynched. If we later have the choice between lynching two people who are NN or scum and we lynch the wrong one then we just lynch the scum the following day anyway.

I think that a day 1 NN claim would benefit the scum more than the town. Hurricane suggested the day 1 NN claim already and a few other people said it was a bad idea, but did not give Hurricane too much of a hard time for it. now you are making the same suggestion, which is a suggestion that will benefit scum, and I assume that you also do not think that you will get a hard time for it.

I was going to give you a hard time for voting for Chromatically as I do not agree with your first point about his initial posts. I think your second point is correct although he has said he might soon make a case (but it's against me!).

Still, I find the regarding claims section of your post very scummy.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 05:11 GMT
#229
On June 24 2013 13:22 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:00 Chromatically wrote:
hz, do you have any scumreads?


At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like:

Attack Chromatically
Attack Xzavier
Attack Hurricane
Attack Spicy
Defend Hurricane
Defend Xzavier
Attack Spicy

For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did.

I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.

He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum.

Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.

Doesn't town want to make lots of scum reads early and get people to defend themselves? Proving innocence is a great goal for us, and helps to narrow down the scum list so that no-lynch is less likely to happen. Then again, good point regarding spicy and whatnot. Hopefully, cases will flesh out and things will become clearer.

Personally I don't have any reads yet, still reading thread.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 05:16 GMT
#230
On June 24 2013 13:50 Onegu wrote:

How is this post in any way organized? This post is just more fluff also I dont know where you are going with any of your thoughts.

Onegu, look at all the [expletive] I had to snip from your quote!

I messed up, and firm's bbc code sucks. It messed up mine.

Erase is a feature I will use from now on.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 24 2013 05:18 GMT
#231
On June 24 2013 14:11 Alakaslam wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 13:22 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:00 Chromatically wrote:
hz, do you have any scumreads?


At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like:

Attack Chromatically
Attack Xzavier
Attack Hurricane
Attack Spicy
Defend Hurricane
Defend Xzavier
Attack Spicy

For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did.

I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.

He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum.

Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.

Doesn't town want to make lots of scum reads early and get people to defend themselves? Proving innocence is a great goal for us, and helps to narrow down the scum list so that no-lynch is less likely to happen. Then again, good point regarding spicy and whatnot. Hopefully, cases will flesh out and things will become clearer.

Personally I don't have any reads yet, still reading thread.


Good point and I agree. In fact I have been on the offensive myself with attacks against three different players, but what I am trying not to do is defend other players (much). The more that people are forced to defend themselves, the more potential there is for us to gain information.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 24 2013 05:33 GMT
#232
On June 24 2013 14:10 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow


We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.

You wound me.

Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.

The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.

Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.

No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)

Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.

1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.

On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?

Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.

2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.

##Vote: Chromatically


My take on this: NN claiming is a bad idea as they are likely to be lynched day 1, which ensures that a town is lynched day 1. I come to this conclusion because the person claiming NN may be scum, but even if they are not they do not have a useful town power role and the NN might harm the town later. For me, the day that an NN claims is the day that an NN is likely to be lynched.


What. Just... what. If somebody claims Nosy Neighbour day 1, they aren't counterclaimed, and they aren't scummy, there is NO REASON to lynch them. If somebody is a Nosy Neighbour, they are MUCH MORE LIKELY to harm the town if the town doesn't know they are (likely to be) the Nosy Neighbour.

Making scum claim Nosy Neighbour day one (which would be brave) or not at all is the optimal play.

If we later have the choice between lynching two people who are NN or scum and we lynch the wrong one then we just lynch the scum the following day anyway.


And if scum claims Nosy Neighbour at Lynch-or-Lose, which is not unlikely, we have to guess right or lose.


I think that a day 1 NN claim would benefit the scum more than the town. Hurricane suggested the day 1 NN claim already and a few other people said it was a bad idea, but did not give Hurricane too much of a hard time for it. now you are making the same suggestion, which is a suggestion that will benefit scum, and I assume that you also do not think that you will get a hard time for it.


Oh, I didn't agree with Hurricane's plan either, at least not the part about directing town roles such as the tracker. Players with PRs should basically always direct their powers at their own discretion.


I was going to give you a hard time for voting for Chromatically as I do not agree with your first point about his initial posts. I think your second point is correct although he has said he might soon make a case (but it's against me!).

Still, I find the regarding claims section of your post very scummy.

Even if you think I'm wrong about the Nosy Neighbour claim, what about that makes me scummy? You need to explain this more.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 05:42 GMT
#233
Ebwop (man I miss edit feature) @onegu- and his expletive messed up your post too didnt it?

@hzflank: yet, so far I can only make town reads.
+ Show Spoiler +

Except: this is not only a stretch but it's "hypocritical"; Ace, one of the more dangerous scum players on TL is coaching. What better way to create fluff than to do what FirmTofu did with bbcode? Not only is it kind of a deliberate mistake (he earased a [\QUOTE] or a part thereof, or added one at the top I think) but it makes anyone quoting him or a quoter te perfect spambot, as you can see! Really clever move if scum. Hard mistake to justify as town, but then, neither Onegu (who I think is town) nor I (who I know is town) hit preview first. Still, he is attacking people and whatnot, which is not really bad for town per say.

TL;DR: FirmTofu explain what happened with your bbcode that messed up onegu and my posts.
It's pissing me off, I pride myself on being able to manage bbcode from my iPhone, a stressful quad-post in my early days produced that. + Show Spoiler +
Tank stacking thread.


Anyone willing to run a search on Ace and see if he has done anything like that before?

Crap, I can see the hole this makes. If we find that's scum play then MAN, we will have to be careful this game as it's really creative.

OMGIS! I fell for a bbcode error?!??
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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 24 2013 05:43 GMT
#234
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow


We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.


There's this thing called timezones - it's now 07:43 in my current local time...

Regarding to claiming, I'd like to ask that nobody claims. Day 1 claiming is generally not a great idea.

On June 24 2013 13:29 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:12 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Chromatically, do you have any scumreads?

Right now, I'm looking at Xzavier and hzflank. Both have posted a bit, but neither have been scumhunting. hz's recent post makes me feel a little better, but it did only come when I specifically asked him and I don't really agree with it. That doesn't necessarily make him scum though.

There are also some other small things that bother me, but I'll elaborate on those later.


I'd like to note that largely with the exception of this post, you haven't done much scumhunting yourself. Would you care to elaborate on those small things for me?

I do agree about Xzavier feeling scummy though. It first felt like a bit of meta case, as I remember him being very actively townie during day 1 in our last game, but reading through what he's said so far he hasn't really done any hunting so it seems objectively scummy, too.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
June 24 2013 05:45 GMT
#235
On June 24 2013 14:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 13:22 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:00 Chromatically wrote:
hz, do you have any scumreads?


At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like:

Attack Chromatically
Attack Xzavier
Attack Hurricane
Attack Spicy
Defend Hurricane
Defend Xzavier
Attack Spicy

For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did.

I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.

He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum.

Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.

Doesn't town want to make lots of scum reads early and get people to defend themselves? Proving innocence is a great goal for us, and helps to narrow down the scum list so that no-lynch is less likely to happen. Then again, good point regarding spicy and whatnot. Hopefully, cases will flesh out and things will become clearer.

Personally I don't have any reads yet, still reading thread.


There will always be a lynch this game, so proveing guilt is always better in this game.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 06:01 GMT
#236
On June 24 2013 14:45 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 14:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:22 hzflank wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:00 Chromatically wrote:
hz, do you have any scumreads?


At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like:

Attack Chromatically
Attack Xzavier
Attack Hurricane
Attack Spicy
Defend Hurricane
Defend Xzavier
Attack Spicy

For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did.

I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.

He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum.

Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.

Doesn't town want to make lots of scum reads early and get people to defend themselves? Proving innocence is a great goal for us, and helps to narrow down the scum list so that no-lynch is less likely to happen. Then again, good point regarding spicy and whatnot. Hopefully, cases will flesh out and things will become clearer.

Personally I don't have any reads yet, still reading thread.


There will always be a lynch this game, so proveing guilt is always better in this game.

Ok- thank you for clearing that up.

Well, I went and searched Ace. @him: you post a lot in NBA man!

Sure enough, check him out in Roulette. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414632&user=Ace

Super long posts, disorganized, not using bbcode stuff but who erases a [/quote] and if it was an accident, what was being erased before it that led to that?

Will be watching FirmTofu!

Who lurks now? It's 11pm and I still post- great point by the local Scandinavian! :D

Now, as I requested a Ban from KadaverBB for just this reason back when, and I have work tomorrow, see you all later. Hopefully I can make a better scum hunt then.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 24 2013 06:03 GMT
#237
As I really did nothin tonight sorry guys
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 24 2013 06:18 GMT
#238
Sorry guys, the bbcode did a number on me.

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T QUOTE MESSED UP BBCODE.

I have the bbcode fixed below, so if you want to quote the list, use this.
On June 24 2013 13:27 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow




I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 24 2013 06:21 GMT
#239
@FirmTofu: What is your read on Chromatically?
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 24 2013 06:26 GMT
#240
On June 24 2013 15:21 Aquanim wrote:
@FirmTofu: What is your read on Chromatically?

Give me a sec, I'm reading up the thread again.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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