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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 06 2013 23:58 GMT
#641
Ace are you saying you have a red check?
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2013 23:59 GMT
#642
On June 07 2013 08:56 layabout wrote:
Ace comes back and jumps on rayne immediately claiming it's because of fuba's case. Then he look's more in depth at the wagon and tries to see if anyone will switch. He unvotes and ends the day without voting. To me this behavior feels a little off for mafia. It's careless.

+ Show Spoiler +
no idea what happened to that quote


Actually a little clarification, I didn't immediately jump on rayne. First thing I did was address Oats. I hadn't read up to the rayne thing yet.

And yes I have a red check. I was Cop last night.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
June 06 2013 23:59 GMT
#643
Yeah, I want to know if the cop turned up anything.

I'm gonna look at Ace and Sent, but I'm gonna have to look through their filters instead of just reading what people say about them before I really give any input. As for vayne, the most suspicious thing for me at the moment is his change in attitude from D1 to D2. He had (what I consider) a very townie nonchalance before, but his recent posts have adopted a "woe is me" tone. I seem to remember hearing that vayne was a pretty good player, and I don't see good players getting this defeatist attitude just because they were wrong. Unless, that is, being wrong isn't the only thing to be upset about.

There's also the point that I believe oats brought up - that rayn was *probably* buddying up to a townie, as opposed to a scumbuddy.

Pedit: Ace the cop?
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
June 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#644
##vote Oatsmaster

Good Job Ace. He actually had changed my mind somewhat overnight so I'm glad you checked him.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2013 00:13 GMT
#645
JJD why so easily influenced .

The reason why this is a fake claim, is that scum have 0 reason to be afraid of fakeclaiming a blue result from a role that they got.
therefore, Ace is really scared of me and fakeclaims to kill me.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2013 00:13 GMT
#646
Ace, explain why my day 1 play makes me scum please.
Also explain why scum would fakeclaim in this setup and that weakens your claim significantly.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 07 2013 00:17 GMT
#647
Alright we're going to have to take this slowly and methodically.
With this claim (or fakeclaim) I don't think it's possible for both Oats and Ace to be scum. They can both be town if Oats is a miller...is miller self-aware or not? (I would assume not.) Ace could be scum fakeclaiming as Oats says, or it could be as simple as cop Ace catching scum Oats.

I think it might make sense to have a look at all of the theory talk Ace had been doing regarding setup to see if it's likely he would try a fakeclaim here.

Just getting this stuff all down in the thread; I will be doing all the stuff I've said myself pretty soon.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
June 07 2013 00:17 GMT
#648
OK, I'm gonna consider the chances of townace getting cop and townoats getting miller when ace would likely check oats pretty slim. Think I'm gonna take a look at ace and oats, instead of sent. I was leaning more towards town oats and scum ace before, but I don't really see a strong benefit for scum ace to fake this check. It would pretty much just be a 1-for-1 trade.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 07 2013 00:18 GMT
#649
Oats I already called you out on this: you said I wasn't scumhunting as if that is proof that I must be Scum when I wasn't even here. And you've played enough games here to know better. In every game the last few months here I've been lynched when I was afk. Re-read your filter Oats: it's pretty much shouting my name with no good reasoning. I even asked you why did you single me out and not call out anyone else that wasn't around.


Also explain why scum would fakeclaim in this setup and that weakens your claim significantly.


I don't understand why you're asking me this. Where did I ever say scum would fakeclaim?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2013 00:18 GMT
#650
On June 07 2013 09:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:

Good Job Ace. He actually had changed my mind somewhat overnight so I'm glad you checked him.

Where/how?
No gg, No skill.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 07 2013 00:19 GMT
#651
On June 07 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright we're going to have to take this slowly and methodically.
With this claim (or fakeclaim) I don't think it's possible for both Oats and Ace to be scum. They can both be town if Oats is a miller...is miller self-aware or not? (I would assume not.) Ace could be scum fakeclaiming as Oats says, or it could be as simple as cop Ace catching scum Oats.

I think it might make sense to have a look at all of the theory talk Ace had been doing regarding setup to see if it's likely he would try a fakeclaim here.

Just getting this stuff all down in the thread; I will be doing all the stuff I've said myself pretty soon.


Just to make this exceedingly simple: If I'm Scum fakeclaiming just investigate me tonight.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2013 00:20 GMT
#652
On June 07 2013 09:18 Ace wrote:
Oats I already called you out on this: you said I wasn't scumhunting as if that is proof that I must be Scum when I wasn't even here. And you've played enough games here to know better. In every game the last few months here I've been lynched when I was afk. Re-read your filter Oats: it's pretty much shouting my name with no good reasoning. I even asked you why did you single me out and not call out anyone else that wasn't around.

Show nested quote +

Also explain why scum would fakeclaim in this setup and that weakens your claim significantly.


I don't understand why you're asking me this. Where did I ever say scum would fakeclaim?

When you were here ace, you were not INTERESTED in finding scum.
In the slightest.

SEE ACE DOESNT WANNA ADMIT THAT FAKECLAIMING IN THIS SETUP IS NOT AS RISKY AS OTHER more normal setups.
LYNCH THIS dude.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 07 2013 00:20 GMT
#653
On June 07 2013 09:19 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright we're going to have to take this slowly and methodically.
With this claim (or fakeclaim) I don't think it's possible for both Oats and Ace to be scum. They can both be town if Oats is a miller...is miller self-aware or not? (I would assume not.) Ace could be scum fakeclaiming as Oats says, or it could be as simple as cop Ace catching scum Oats.

I think it might make sense to have a look at all of the theory talk Ace had been doing regarding setup to see if it's likely he would try a fakeclaim here.

Just getting this stuff all down in the thread; I will be doing all the stuff I've said myself pretty soon.


Just to make this exceedingly simple: If I'm Scum fakeclaiming just investigate me tonight.

which means we dont lynch me, who do you wanna lynch?
No gg, No skill.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 07 2013 00:22 GMT
#654
Oats SHOW ME where I wasn't interested in finding scum. Just once. Because I don't throw out scum and town reads in every post doesn't mean I'm not scum hunting. Go ahead and read early in the game when I was around and talking. Show me how that means I'm not interested in finding scum. Show me a situation I ignored that I should have responded to.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
June 07 2013 00:24 GMT
#655
#Vote Ace

bbl
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
June 07 2013 00:25 GMT
#656
Ooh, this is getting exciting.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 07 2013 00:27 GMT
#657
the hell? Kita why are you ignoring everything I wrote?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 07 2013 00:27 GMT
#658
On June 07 2013 09:25 mkfuba07 wrote:
Ooh, this is getting exciting.


word yo.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
June 07 2013 00:27 GMT
#659
On June 07 2013 09:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 09:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:

Good Job Ace. He actually had changed my mind somewhat overnight so I'm glad you checked him.

Where/how?
Because you were agreeing w/ me about Sent and his scumslip. I was pretty convinced that Sent was scum and would almost surely be voting him now if Ace hadn't caught you. But now I see that you were sheeping me because my read was off. Or perhaps you were bussing but I think that's way less likely @ this point.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 07 2013 00:28 GMT
#660
On June 07 2013 09:27 Ace wrote:
the hell? Kita why are you ignoring everything I wrote?

I think he had decided to act like you're mafia fake-claiming instead of trying to work out what the best course of action is.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
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