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marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
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DarthPunk
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On May 21 2013 16:15 yamato77 wrote: I really don't understand the Rayn shot. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me as a scum kill. Seems more like a 3P kill, given that there were more dangerous players alive who seemed more universal as townreads. If we flip BH, it practically confirms this suspicion, and it does make BH look quite terrible if I trust my analysis. IDK man, this game is hard. If BH flips town I'm really going to be upset. My feeling on the rayn kill is that it if it was a 3P kill, then GK is a highly likely to be the 3P killer. Rayne's posts D1 moved around a bit but a large portion was written dealing with GK. It's the only thing that could possibly justify the kill aside from the vig shots. The other possible interpretation I was thinking was that it was a mafia vig shot and they shot rayne because they thought the better targets had docs on them that night. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On May 21 2013 20:47 Spicydinosaur wrote: My feeling on the rayn kill is that it if it was a 3P kill, then GK is a highly likely to be the 3P killer. Rayne's posts D1 moved around a bit but a large portion was written dealing with GK. It's the only thing that could possibly justify the kill aside from the vig shots. The other possible interpretation I was thinking was that it was a mafia vig shot and they shot rayne because they thought the better targets had docs on them that night. From the knowledge I have of a couple of serial killers, there's not necessarily a massive amount of thought that goes into a specific kill, especially night 1. But you might be right. | ||
JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
I think iamps claim and the 2 deaths pretty much seal it. The fact that he hasn't bothered trying to make any sort of a defense doesn't help either. I'd be interested in hearing how anyone could justify putting a vote anywhere else. | ||
Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 21 2013 09:42 WaveofShadow wrote: I can't honestly say how I feel about it. I have experienced scum BH before and as I've mentioned before some of it feels like it fits but not exactly. This could also very well be an easy frame attempt from mafia, or it could be exactly what it looks like and BH is scum. I am more than happy to consolidate on a BH lynch later on but considering the entire town is already down his throat, one extra person pushing him is one more person not trying to find other scum. am I the only one that reads this as "I'll vote for BH if he's already dead but if there's a chance I can get someone else lynched I will"? And what do you mean by "an easy frame attempt from mafia"? Doesn't frame imply that mafia did something to put suspicion on him? Where's the frame? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On May 21 2013 21:40 JarJarDrinks wrote: am I the only one that reads this as "I'll vote for BH if he's already dead but if there's a chance I can get someone else lynched I will"? And what do you mean by "an easy frame attempt from mafia"? Doesn't frame imply that mafia did something to put suspicion on him? Where's the frame? Remind me to talk about this in 24 hours or so. | ||
s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
JarJar, we are well into the week now. After BH, are you still maintaining that DP is scum? | ||
JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 21 2013 21:36 Spicydinosaur wrote: YOU, Darthpunk and probably Grushjarjar, who are your other scum reads? You - based on the CnP fail as well as just being inconsistant in your explaination for it. DP - reasons already stated. Grush - for not posting any real opinion yet this game. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On May 21 2013 22:13 s0Lstice wrote: Marv- we were at the same endpoint. I was just trying to put the cart before the horse, and erroneously expecting you to do the same. JarJar, we are well into the week now. After BH, are you still maintaining that DP is scum? Splendid. So now we're heading due forwards, what do you think of the merit of the original argument I was making before we got distracted? | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On May 21 2013 22:15 JarJarDrinks wrote: YOU, Darthpunk and probably Grush You - based on the CnP fail as well as just being inconsistant in your explaination for it. DP - reasons already stated. Grush - for not posting any real opinion yet this game. What else do you find suspicious about Spicy? Various players in this game are of the opinion that a mistake like that is more likely to come from a townie, why in particular do you disagree? | ||
s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On May 21 2013 22:17 marvellosity wrote: Splendid. So now we're heading due forwards, what do you think of the merit of the original argument I was making before we got distracted? I think it's a good argument. I've written some stuff about GK awhile back myself. He is not approaching the game as his townie self should, as you've shown, and his cases have been overreaching to the point of being malicious. His PM claim threw me for a loop, nothing I can do about that now, but the evidence is saying to me that he is scum. | ||
s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 21 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote: Sure, I think the original post w/ could be chalked up to a townie mistake. But then he makes the post where he explains how it was a CnP error which just didn't make any sense? And when I call him out on it, he completely ignores it. It's only after I repost the case like 2 days later and several other people realize how bad it is and start prodding him for an answer does he decide to respond. And here are his explainations:What else do you find suspicious about Spicy? Various players in this game are of the opinion that a mistake like that is more likely to come from a townie, why in particular do you disagree? On May 20 2013 05:25 Spicydinosaur wrote: WoS i have a null read on. In my post where i voted jarjar and had to part of WoS in it, I was originally going to be putting my vote on WoS. I wasn't a fan of his earlier posts but the last parts sounded more towny so I decided to switch it someone else, jarjar. Didn't check my post before i published it so that was a fuck up on my part. "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." that was supposed to be the start of jarjar's look and the stuff before should have been deleted. My vote there was always on jarjar. look at the time of my post and the time i posted in the vote thread. should be pretty close. On May 20 2013 05:30 Spicydinosaur wrote: It was a colossal fuck up in my post. didn't check it as i meant to delete everything about WOS. I can only guess that i saw the text above as stating the unsure statement and i didnt check below it. I mean look @ that first post. He says he has a null read on WOS but that's where he was originally gonna put his vote? And then he says "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." was supposed to refer to me. Does anyone really feel that way about my posts? | ||
Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On May 21 2013 23:22 JarJarDrinks wrote: Sure, I think the original post w/ could be chalked up to a townie mistake. But then he makes the post where he explains how it was a CnP error which just didn't make any sense? And when I call him out on it, he completely ignores it. It's only after I repost the case like 2 days later and several other people realize how bad it is and start prodding him for an answer does he decide to respond. And here are his explainations: I mean look @ that first post. He says he has a null read on WOS but that's where he was originally gonna put his vote? And then he says "A lot of his posts are full of self doubt and lack confidence." was supposed to refer to me. Does anyone really feel that way about my posts? The null read on WOS was my concluding thought when the post was published. When i began writing it I was going to vote WOS and was writing as such, but as I was filtering and building the case, I realized he was acting townie, hence the switch to a null read. As for your excuses/lack of confidence, here are the posts I was referring too: On May 18 2013 20:51 JarJarDrinks wrote: In all the game's I've been in, I'd imagine the majority of my posts came during the week while I was @ work. Don't want to make an excuse but I'm always gonna be a little less active on the weekend. Last game I got lynched day 1 and a big part of the reasoning was because I went inactive for a portion of the day. On May 18 2013 20:59 JarJarDrinks wrote: Didn't mean to sound like I was complaining about it. Just wanted to point it out since the last noob game I was in had 25 pages TOTAL. It's a big change. On May 19 2013 12:48 JarJarDrinks wrote: I've said that I cant really be that active on the weekends. I don't know how that means my "posts contain a lot of excuses" And like, you're saying that I've yet to defend myself properly. Well the only real case against me is that I've been lurking. Anything I can say to defend myself I'm sure is gonna sound like more excuses to you. Is there something specific that you or someone is accusing me of that I should post a defense for? | ||
Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spicydinosaur wrote: I should add that I think jarjar is a lot lower on my scum list now since I voted for him. Mind explaining why? | ||
s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
I'm going through your filter right now, and unless I somehow missed it, I don't see a single reference to GK. What's your read and why? | ||
Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
One of my biggest problems with him was his lack of post/excuse for postings which he has improved on. I thought his asking for town credit didn't feel scummy. He was taking a lot of heat D1 and when the BH slip happened, his response felt like a "i told you so!" Just felt like a new player reaction more than a scum. I also found it extremely unlikely that jarjar was bussing BH from the beginning, so if BH flips scum, I'd doubt that jarjar would also. The other reason is that others have jumped out more. BH with the slip, dandel not giving a fuck and the last second vote still annoys me, and then GK for his no reading role pm, his flimsy arguments and for possibly being the 3P killer. | ||
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