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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 15:42 GMT
#691
On May 19 2013 00:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Going back to the first part though, prolonging the game also benefits scum due to move speed increase.



Where did you see that scum get a move increase as the game is prolonged? The only thing I could see was in Vivax's role PM which said:

Your movement speed begins at [redacted] and increases [redacted].


In the meantime, I'm going to ##Unvote
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 19:06 GMT
#732
I think I would prefer a ghost lynch, but I can get behind one on ffer. She has been a total non-entity this game, and while that may be due to this being her first TL game, its still no excuse.

##Vote fferyllt
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 19:18 GMT
#741
Also oats coming in and 'voting', then disappearing without registering a legitimate vote is suspicious as hell if ffer flips scum.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 22:53 GMT
#751
On May 19 2013 07:19 Crossfire99 wrote:
I think I got everything correct, but if you see something you think is wrong let me know. I gotta split right now, but I'll be back later.


I should have moved one more space forward, and be next to B, unless I missed something?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 22:57 GMT
#753
I didn't get any PM, so I assume there was a mistake (or some other mechanic at work). I just double checked and I did say to move forward 3 spaces.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 23:01 GMT
#757
On May 19 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
My guess is that both you and oats tried to move to the same space, and therefore stopped moving. Crap...


Oh for fuck sake, I didn't even think about something like that.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 23:02 GMT
#758
Didn't see any movement.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 18 2013 23:08 GMT
#759
Also the sharrant kill doesn't look like it was an angel feeding. If it was, it should say he was sent back in time. Seeing as there was a neck snapped as well, I'd guess that was a 3rd party kill.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 00:12 GMT
#782
I've been quite happy to push ghost since early on in the game, but one thing that's slightly worrying about the bandwagon is that no one is defending him, including himself. I suppose his teammate is just bussing him rather than risking his head.

##Vote ghost_403

@Oats I am going to move one space forward. You should stay still and not move at all. You can still change the direction you are looking in however. I also realised that me and oats are confirmed to be human/puppets because of this:

On May 20 2013 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:If a player and an Angel attempt to enter the same space at the exact same time, the angel will move into the space.

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 00:12 GMT
#783
Ninja'd

But my post still stands.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 01:10 GMT
#785
On May 20 2013 09:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Your last part is wrong. It only says an angel takes precedence, so the implication is that if you move forward 3 and only actually move 2 when movement is resolved, then an angel is invisible in the third box.

Or in this case since you're going forward, the red angel will be illuminated in your flashlight


I don't understand your point?

Both me and oats tried to move into the same space. If either of us was an angel, that person would have ended up in that space. As neither of us are angels, no one takes precedence so the space remains empty.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 01:11 GMT
#786
Also BH used his illumination skill and both of us are showing up as human in that as well.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 19:55 GMT
#818
I'm pretty much dead tonight, so I'll give a quick summary of my thoughts:

If ghost isn't scum I'll be pretty fucking surprised.

If Zeph isn't town I'll be pretty fucking surprised. Listen to him if you are going to listen to anyone.

I thought oats was scum initially after his scumslip, but why would he be so willing to be checked if he was? Maybe the hosts really did just allow the move for whatever reason. If I die tonight before I get to check him, keep a damn close eye on him. If he moves at all tonight, lynch him tomorrow.

Between phagga, mkfuba and sent, I'm pretty null on all of them. The flashlight thing could be a 3rd party skill (we're still blind as to any 3rd party involvement as of yet) or it could be scum WIFOM.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 19:58 GMT
#821
On May 21 2013 04:56 phagga wrote:
decon, can you check multiple people at once if you are right next to them?


If there are multiple people next to me, I get told how many are town. Not who specifically is town.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 19:59 GMT
#823
Also diagonal doesn't count, has to be right next to me.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#827
Yeah I got the movement out at the last minute. Couldn't post that I had though as the time was up.

I saw something last night

There is one town next to me.

##Vote Oatsmaster
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 20:59 GMT
#828
There must be an angel near us if I saw something, which is not good. Also Zeph was fed upon, and there was no neck snapping. Maybe scum can only do one or the other?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 22:31 GMT
#845
On May 21 2013 06:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Here is the analysis I wrote last night on who I thought was going to be the last remaining angel.

I have been aware of the third scum for some time now. In fact, he was hiding under my nose the third time. The third angel is Deconduo.

I became aware of this shortly before the fferyllt lynch. Look at page 3 of his filter. In order, he implicitly accuses ghost, feryl and oats without offering substantial evidence for any lynch. Actually he did accuse ghost beforehand, but only when he felt it was safe to do so - when I pointed out ghost's slip in accusing vivax and not myself. I thought it was distancing but it still appears to make sense with a towny ghost and a scummy dec. He can soft accuse feryl or oats and incite others to actually push for their lynch, without seeming like a catalyst for a mislynch (of feryl) in the event that either of them flip town. This is a very scummy action.

But this can be construed as an indecisive townie in some way, so we couldn't rule out the possibility that he was in fact, a detective. But then he makes his next mistake - offering absolute zero pro-town information. In fact, he fills the thread with complaints and questions that he could not reach and check Oatsmaster.

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On May 19 2013 08:08 deconduo wrote:
Also the sharrant kill doesn't look like it was an angel feeding. If it was, it should say he was sent back in time. Seeing as there was a neck snapped as well, I'd guess that was a 3rd party kill.


This is the only post of the time period that breaks this trend. Note the implications of the third party here - we are not only to hunt the 2 scums but find a third player who may be something like SK. He is distracting from our prime directive at this point. Luckily Zeph steps in as the vig. But this takes the cake:

Show nested quote +
I suppose his teammate is just bussing him rather than risking his head.


This (as well as the post it was contained in) confirmed my read on deconduo when I was looking at the reasons people were voting for ghost. Deconduo sheeped my case without any constructive remarks to silently align himself behind the mislynch. Using his soft accusations he can quickly sheep any player he previously accused, here being ghost.

And then, he plays dumb to further his standing as detective. By making all these questions, which the mod had already answered, dec keeps implying he is a detective and by extension so is Oats. So why would an actual detective want to waste another valuable night confirming someone he already knows? No, scum deconduo has been clouding up the process of finding scum with questions about a known mechanic in the game. And the hardest part of today has been watching Deconduo dig himself his own grave and say nothing about it until the time is right.


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On May 20 2013 10:11 deconduo wrote:
Also BH used his illumination skill and both of us are showing up as human in that as well.


And in the end, he still tries to paint himself green.

This is the plan. We lynch deconduo next night.


1: I made a case against ghost and voted for him before anyone else did on day 1. I continuously pushed against him, yet this counts as 'sheeping the case on him'? Yeah sure.

2. I was pretty null on ffer, and I repeatedly said she had zero impact on the game. Given that its majority lynch, I had no problem sheeping that lynch on day 2 when there was no chance of getting ghost lynched.

3. I never claimed me and oats were confirmed town, only that we confirmed human/puppet and as such it was safe to move towards us. Why the fuck would I need to check oats (and repeat that I think he's scum) otherwise. As I said, if I check a puppet they show up as non-town.

4. I got a red check on oats or phagga. I've been pretty sure oats was scum since that slip, and phagga has been a lot less supicious throughout the game. Hence why I'm voting for oats.

5. That leaves you or mkfuba, and thats also not much of a contest. You're clearly defending your scumbuddy oats by trying to throw suspicion on me. You die tommorrow.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 22:33 GMT
#846
On May 21 2013 06:34 mkfuba07 wrote:
And deconduo, how do you feel about oats and sent after phagga's recent post about the "scumslip"?


Oats and sent are the last 2 scum.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2013 23:27 GMT
#848
On May 21 2013 08:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
3. This falls under the category of "useless posts intended to confuse". We already learned from the mods several days ago that all of the pieces on the board are human or puppet humans.


You know, I would love to see that modpost, Because this one specifically says the opposite:

On May 16 2013 02:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 02:02 phagga wrote:

Do the 12 letters represent 9 townies and 3 puppets or 9 townies and 3 weeping angels?

*shrugs*


Also there's this:

On May 15 2013 06:37 GreYMisT wrote:
A weeping angel will be recognizable when a flashlight is shone on it. You will simply know its an angel, you will not know the name of the player controlling it.


So as far as I can see, there's nothing saying that someone on the board right now can't be an angel.
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