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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 22:41 GMT
#1261
Clarity also said there was 0 resistance to the yamato lynch

misrepresentation/proof he's not reading OR EVEN LOOKING AT VOTECOUNT

yamato's lynch had me, ace, and a ton of others trying to see whether or not he was truly scum

Ace seemed to get a better read off of it than I... and coaxed a lot to vote Oats

I Felt like Oats was town, and was only leaning on Yamato, so I went with the better wagon (WE KNOW THIS NOW)
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 22:41 GMT
#1262
On April 23 2013 16:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 23 2013 16:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cause you're both anti town in the dumbest ways possible, but not convinced either of ye are scum just yet. You have a higher chance than most, though. There has also been 0 resistance to both your lynches

Well Vivax did try and derail yamato's lynch with his case So resistance to yamato's lynch.
Also technically your case on sharrent has also been resistance.

Which means that resistance being a factor in someone being scum is bullshit.

I wanna lynch you kinda clarity, you know why?


Yes good point, clearly I should look at myself when I say "there's been no resistance"
Anyway, I'll indulge you, why?

twisting oats words here

oats tried to question him, but clarity deflected

didnt have to worry about town that was about to get lynched, huh?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
April 23 2013 22:44 GMT
#1263
BM.

What's your stance on yamato currently?
What do we make of tube and Drazak?
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 22:47 GMT
#1264
On April 24 2013 07:44 Vivax wrote:
BM.

What's your stance on yamato currently?
What do we make of tube and Drazak?

Yamato is coasting since his D1 wagon derailed

He has improved his usefulness, but I would lynch him over Clarity right now... hell, I'd lynch Sharrant over both of them, even BC. I'd rather off people I have null reads on.

Yamato is either a townie, or scum, from my standpoint. I don't see him being a power role
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 22:48 GMT
#1265
Tube seems smart. He and I agreed on a point. Drazak I would feel would be an inactivity lynch, and I don't particularly like to lynch people that we can potentially have replaced.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 22:54 GMT
#1266
Last time I'm going to address this but if you guys wanna circlejerk over something completely stupid and wrong after that then go ahead.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


1)Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. 2)interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


BM's post adresses both of my posts. My original entry and my case post an hour later.
He says "lol he read entire thread in 1 hour yeah right?" and comments that the case is bad

I reply this (gonna paraphrase to get it in your thick skulls)
1) This is a reply to the first part, about my entry post.
a) "Yeah okay I might have started reading and then", this is me saying I was already in the process of catching up
b) Yes I saw Palmar say it was close to hammer so figured I'd post that I'm here and catching up
2) This is a reply to the second part, about the case.

Then people start spewing shit about how it "took me an hour from catching up to posting a case and that's impossible" even though I thought I fucking addressed that in the above post. So I clarify saying I had been reading two hours prior to my entry post.
The only time I show lack of conviction in my case is after wave comments on it properly, not before.

Everyone satisfied?

As for the people I said I'd check: pretty confident BC is town, giygas is who the fuck knows and I don't understand why the fuck shiao hammered after showing no interest in oats whatsoever.

I'm going to bed, tomorrow I'm going to find scum and ignore everyone because this is just pissing me off.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 22:57 GMT
#1267
So, I was just doing voting analysis, and I saw this gem in the voting thread:
On April 23 2013 21:18 Vivax wrote:
UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Oatsmaster: Palmar, kushm4sta, GiygaS, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Ace, WoS, Yamato, VE, Palmar(9)
Hopeless1der:
Vivax (0)
Bill Murray:
raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes (0)
Getmoript:
Mr. Cheesecake, kushm4sta,WaveofShadow (0)
TheRavensName:
Sharrant (0)
Raynpelikoneet:
Sharrant, Sylencia, Hopeless1der, ObviousOne(3)
Ace:
Yamato, Bill Murray (0)
Sharrant:
raynpelikoneet (0)
Yamato:
kushm4sta, BloodyCobbler, Ace, Grush57, raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, ObviousOne, getmoript, Bill Murray, TheRavensName [b](6)
VisceraEyes: Palmar, Yamato (0)

With 25 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________

BM's vote is wrong but that one doesn't matter anyway.
Oats needs 4 votes for the hammer.

Asking those on Rayn to switch to Oats pls.
[/b]


Why was Vivax not warned/modkilled for this? Having lines of information "Bill Murray's vote is wrong, and doesn't matter anyways" is ridiculous. His votecount is misleading, as well

...how can hosts let this behavior happen?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2013 22:58 GMT
#1268
Clarity, before you go - NO, I am NOT satisfied
You're "Reading two hours before" but you find your way to the last 2 pages randomly? explain that logic
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 23 2013 22:58 GMT
#1269
So why did you decide those three players were the ones you should be reading more into over, let's say yamato/Oats?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 23:01 GMT
#1270
On April 24 2013 07:58 Bill Murray wrote:
Clarity, before you go - NO, I am NOT satisfied
You're "Reading two hours before" but you find your way to the last 2 pages randomly? explain that logic


I honestly don't remember nor care.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
April 23 2013 23:02 GMT
#1271
I'm just letting you guys know that I'm going to be busy for at least a few hours with school, so I may not be able to read/post in the thread for a bit. I'll be back as soon as I can.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 23:03 GMT
#1272
On April 24 2013 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So why did you decide those three players were the ones you should be reading more into over, let's say yamato/Oats?


cause I had already read over oats and yamato
Those three names were just cause looking at the playerlist I couldn't recall anything about them, reads etc.
BC had a ton of stupid miller discussion crap but today he's as green as can be

Bed now.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
April 23 2013 23:04 GMT
#1273

BM's post adresses both of my posts. My original entry and my case post an hour later.


No, only your second. BM never mentioned your late entrance as accuse, but you felt like defending yourself for it.

He says "lol he read entire thread in 1 hour yeah right?" and comments that the case is bad


Yes, and you replied to it with a justification for your "catching up" post, instead of telling him that you were reading for 3 hours when he accused you of being too quick in catching up and dropping such a case, thus not answering to his accusations the same way you answered to mine.

Then people start spewing shit about how it "took me an hour from catching up to posting a case and that's impossible" even though I thought I fucking addressed that in the above post. So I clarify saying I had been reading two hours prior to my entry post.


That's cause you said different stuff to BM than to others even if the accusations are the same.


Everyone satisfied?


No. Hunt scum pls.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 23:05 GMT
#1274
Oh look, WoS asking questions and then doing nothing with them again. You have no analysis of anyone that isn't "But I'll wait to see what happens before I do anything with it." Which isn't really scum hunting, its more like pretending to be scum hunting and giving you an excuse not to follow up on. Someone look at his filter, and see most of the people he makes any accusation or comment on are: I guess he could be this but I'm hesittant and not really sure. Did you actually make any reads your willing to stand by? You call Sharant a couple of times in after the whole exchange me and Ray had with him, but you never actually state why you think hes town or even say it unless its in response to people making case against him. It almost seems like you want to protect him and then just not have any flat out reasons that can be analyzed and no real analysis of a connection between the two of you if one of you died.

At the very least, I would like to see you explain your town read on him since all you have said so far is "I have a super strong town read on him." and not actually went into WHY you have a town read on him
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 23 2013 23:07 GMT
#1275
On April 24 2013 08:05 TheRavensName wrote:
Oh look, WoS asking questions and then doing nothing with them again. You have no analysis of anyone that isn't "But I'll wait to see what happens before I do anything with it." Which isn't really scum hunting, its more like pretending to be scum hunting and giving you an excuse not to follow up on. Someone look at his filter, and see most of the people he makes any accusation or comment on are: I guess he could be this but I'm hesittant and not really sure. Did you actually make any reads your willing to stand by? You call Sharant a couple of times in after the whole exchange me and Ray had with him, but you never actually state why you think hes town or even say it unless its in response to people making case against him. It almost seems like you want to protect him and then just not have any flat out reasons that can be analyzed and no real analysis of a connection between the two of you if one of you died.

At the very least, I would like to see you explain your town read on him since all you have said so far is "I have a super strong town read on him." and not actually went into WHY you have a town read on him


Adding to this, most of WoS posts about Sharrant also come after Sharrant posted something and he is trying to explain something to him or back it up, or someone just accused Sharrant of something.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22133 Posts
April 23 2013 23:07 GMT
#1276
Anyway, if you're town quit defending yourself cause you can't, not with me at least cause I won't believe what you say.

Find your scumreads and post your reasons, there's still enough time.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 23 2013 23:13 GMT
#1277
Apparently Clarity does not think anyone is scum besides Sharrant..
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
April 23 2013 23:22 GMT
#1278
From now on, here are the voting thread rules: You can post whatever you want vote-count wise in the game thread. The voting thread can only be used for voting and unvoting, and only hosts can post anything else in that thread.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 23 2013 23:27 GMT
#1279
WoS: Why is Sharrant the only one you want to have thoughts from regarding late D1? after all he is your town read. Why don't you want to question your scumreads instead?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 23 2013 23:28 GMT
#1280
Also what do you make of this little chat of ours with Clarity?
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