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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2013 21:12 GMT
#1221
Clarity's case on Sharrant on its own is not alignment indicative.

The timing and context of it is.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 23 2013 21:12 GMT
#1222
Other question:

Why did clarity say that he felt the urge to post something quickly cause he thought his late entrance looked bad?
How was it of any concern to him at that point, and why did he avoid to comment on the points against yamato and Oats and instead called them policy lynches, which is like the laziest, most ineffective way for purposes of getting to a better lynch?

What I picked up as scummy was the fact that he felt so nervous to post a half-baked "this is my big case with a vote at the end" without showing any doubt about what was going on in the thread, like he should have, if he only had one hour to get familiar with the game.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:17 GMT
#1223
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 23 2013 21:19 GMT
#1224
Why did clarity say that he felt the urge to post something quickly cause he thought his late entrance looked bad? How was it of any concern to him at that point.

Actually, that's a good point that i missed. I didn't read "Guess I felt like contributing something fresh since I felt guilty for missing the start of the game" like that.

why did he avoid to comment on the points against yamato and Oats and instead called them policy lynches, which is like the laziest, most ineffective way for purposes of getting to a better lynch?

That's the thing that concerns me about Clarity, mainly. The other thing is that he promised to look onto other people and has not done so yet, but has posted some nonsense since.
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:20 GMT
#1225
And to this day I still don't understand what the "points against yamato and oats" were, so how could I comment on them. They were both trolly. Now oats is dead and yamato was 100% confident that he was town by the end.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#1226
Clarity i assume you have looked into BC/GiygaS/ShiaoPi as it's been many many hours since you said you'd do so. Any thoughts on them, especially on BC who yamato asked you about earlier?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#1227
On April 24 2013 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why did clarity say that he felt the urge to post something quickly cause he thought his late entrance looked bad? How was it of any concern to him at that point.

Actually, that's a good point that i missed. I didn't read "Guess I felt like contributing something fresh since I felt guilty for missing the start of the game" like that.

Show nested quote +
why did he avoid to comment on the points against yamato and Oats and instead called them policy lynches, which is like the laziest, most ineffective way for purposes of getting to a better lynch?

That's the thing that concerns me about Clarity, mainly. The other thing is that he promised to look onto other people and has not done so yet, but has posted some nonsense since.


A little bit of patience please? night is still young.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#1228
ninja'd, no I have not, am now.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 23 2013 21:23 GMT
#1229
On April 24 2013 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.


No, that was your answer to BM asking why you took an hour to cook that case against Sharrant. It wasn't BM saying "why do you post now"? There is a nested quote you're replying to with that.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 23 2013 21:27 GMT
#1230
Hey Sharrant, where you at bro?
Any thoughts on yamato/Oats since you seem to have conveniently missed it entirely?
Updated thoughts on Rayn/Shiao?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 23 2013 21:29 GMT
#1231
WoS why does it matter what Sharrant thinks about Oats?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:30 GMT
#1232
On April 24 2013 06:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.


No, that was your answer to BM asking why you took an hour to cook that case against Sharrant. It wasn't BM saying "why do you post now"? There is a nested quote you're replying to with that.


Can I just clear this up and then we move on? Apparently this is a really big deal.

I was reading for 2 or so hours, then I decided in my genius I should look at the last two pages, noticed the word hammer and decided I would say "I'm here", then I finished reading and made the case.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 23 2013 21:32 GMT
#1233
On April 24 2013 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS why does it matter what Sharrant thinks about Oats?

Because I'd like to hear his opinion on arguably the most important thing that has gone down in the thread thus far.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 23 2013 21:33 GMT
#1234
On April 24 2013 06:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 06:23 Vivax wrote:
On April 24 2013 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.


No, that was your answer to BM asking why you took an hour to cook that case against Sharrant. It wasn't BM saying "why do you post now"? There is a nested quote you're replying to with that.


Can I just clear this up and then we move on? Apparently this is a really big deal.

I was reading for 2 or so hours, then I decided in my genius I should look at the last two pages, noticed the word hammer and decided I would say "I'm here", then I finished reading and made the case.


Does that mean you replied to BM with something else than he intended?
He never criticized you for saying "I'm here".

So you read 2 hours, then announced you were here, catching up, then read another hour, and posted THAT case against Sharrant without knowing what was going on in the yamato / Oats issue?

Seems legit.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:35 GMT
#1235
On April 24 2013 06:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 06:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 24 2013 06:23 Vivax wrote:
On April 24 2013 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.


No, that was your answer to BM asking why you took an hour to cook that case against Sharrant. It wasn't BM saying "why do you post now"? There is a nested quote you're replying to with that.


Can I just clear this up and then we move on? Apparently this is a really big deal.

I was reading for 2 or so hours, then I decided in my genius I should look at the last two pages, noticed the word hammer and decided I would say "I'm here", then I finished reading and made the case.


Does that mean you replied to BM with something else than he intended?
He never criticized you for saying "I'm here".

So you read 2 hours, then announced you were here, catching up, then read another hour, and posted THAT case against Sharrant without knowing what was going on in the yamato / Oats issue?

Seems legit.


Again you think I didn't know what what going on with the yamato oats stuff.
He criticized me for taking an hour to read the whole thread and post a case, when in fact I had a bit over three hours.

CAN WE FUCKING MOVE ON?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 23 2013 21:38 GMT
#1236
Yeah, move on, I'm curious to see what you will deliver to Rayn's question.
You'll feel my breath in your neck this game.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 23 2013 21:39 GMT
#1237
You had read the thread you knew that Sharrant was a town read for almost everyone in thread. Why did you decide to make a case that would not possibly gain support instead of figuring out what was the deal with yamato/Oats?
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#1238
On April 24 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You had read the thread you knew that Sharrant was a town read for almost everyone in thread. Why did you decide to make a case that would not possibly gain support instead of figuring out what was the deal with yamato/Oats?


Because he is not a townread for me and I thought it would be more productive than the 10 page shitfest with yamato and oats.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#1239
On April 24 2013 06:38 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, move on, I'm curious to see what you will deliver to Rayn's question.
You'll feel my breath in your neck this game.

Made me thing of this. Warning: kinda icky.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.homeescapade.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/stoma-on-the-neck.jpg
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
April 23 2013 21:47 GMT
#1240
Actually I have this 99 % feeling that Clarity just lied.
I don't see how this recent version looks consistent with his answer to BM.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.



I was reading for 2 or so hours, then I decided in my genius I should look at the last two pages, noticed the word hammer and decided I would say "I'm here", then I finished reading and made the case.


Like, why didn't you say to BM "I've been reading for more than one hour" instead of "I might have started reading".
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