EPT[quote]all of the fucking D1 candidates were mafia in PYP[/b]
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
[quote]all of the fucking D1 candidates were mafia in PYP[/b] | ||
ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 28 2013 12:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: That was because all of the fucking D1 candidates were town in PYP!!! It does not answer the question, if VE is town why didn't mafia even try to push a mislynch on D2??? (You ebwop'd you meant mafia on D1, yes, we bussed the best role we had in favor of the VE that wasn't even really around, it was hilarious especially with emperor or w/e killing VE TOO LOL) Simplest possible answers I guess? - They weren't here enough or vocal enough to derail it (Palmar's style has been playing by proxy [essentially +1/sheeping], not taking the lead in pretty much anything AKA let town tear itself down, if he goes to derail and Clarity later flips he looks terribly scummy) - Clarity was objectively scummy and nigh impossible to derail. Go with the flow on Clarity for the credit. (NOTICE PALMAR YELLING DO IT DO IT!) Boom. Palmar best candidate for mafia of the vets. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On April 28 2013 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Lies lies lies. You did not claim in Ego despite being L-1. I wouldn't call that "not in danger of dying". Just vig this guy. That's because in Ego I already claimed right at the beginning of the game, remember the fight over whether what I said was a 'real' claim or not? I NEVER LIE. Also I back hai guise. BM you are a tunnely tunnely guy and yet somehow manage to sound crazy and frantic all at the same time. Are you trying to kill me because you think I'm scum or because you know I'm miller? I'm curious as to which one. BC, you too. Personally I'm wondering which of the veteran scum players are looking at this as a gift for them, forcing town to waste a vig shot, which will become obvious once I die. I'm not saying that it isn't necessarily the call to make, but considering how hard it's being pushed by certain people? I dunno. Just think critically guys; I'm going to try to make a potentially dumb rolelclaim into something useful. Finishing reading the thread, a couple more pages to go; just wantd to reply to that. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On April 28 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holy shit, i just figured out something. Something that is very clever play from mafia if i am right. But whether or not i'm right or wrong we all need to agree that WoS needs to be shot tonight. Does anyone figure out what do i meaning? Yes, now shut up. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On April 28 2013 10:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah we do disagree. Also in Ego when WoS was under heavy suspicion (nearly lynched) he came up with reads on people, not self-defence. It's the start of the night phase. Who is to say he cannot change what people think or might think about him? He is defending himself before he even needs to be defended (which would be at the end of the night). He is prematurely defending himself, i want him to tell us why. Another fact is that millers should never claim, ever, in this setup. BC explained it on D1. Third fact is that nobody wants WoS copped, people want him vigged. There is no reason for him to claim miller if he is town. Rayn do you realize how scummy you sound? Not are you so absolutely sure you caught me in a lie (you didn't) but now you're screaming at people to shoot me with all your might and that no matter what I say nobody should listen or I might change their minds. You also say that if I was town I'd be trying to help town and come up with reads. How am I supposed to come up with reads for people if you're pre-emptively telling them not to listen to me? If I flip they're going to find out that everything I've been saying is true anyway! Scummy as all fuck, dude. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
Palmar is gonna get copped/lynched if he is not right and he knows it. If he however is too right (pushing the correct lynches with good reasoning) he will get NK'd and he knows it. If he however trolls throughout the game but still is on the right side of things, he probably won't get lynched. That's why i think it's most likely third faction. He is not playing for mafia, but he is not playing for the town (too much) either. But pushing a lynch on your teams vigilante, even softly, at the point Palmar did it is really bad play as mafia, and Palmar is not bad. If he was mafia he would have either pushed VE harder, or not agreed with Clarity over ShiaoPi when he did. It's that simple. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
That's because in Ego I already claimed right at the beginning of the game, remember the fight over whether what I said was a 'real' claim or not? I NEVER LIE. You claimed town when the game started. I don't see how this qualifies as "claiming when i am in danger of dying"? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I suppose I could've waited for the miller claim until I was absolutely sure that I was going to be the lynch target for the next day but I'd rather not have a mislynch than a wasted vig shot; especially since I don't know who top det check targets are for the evening. With all the suspicion towards the Shiao lynch wagon I assume that's the people mentioned in earlier cases, including me, so I preempted it. You can now check someone more useful who won't return a confusing check, and I will offer up as much info as I can give for the evening. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On April 28 2013 12:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: WoS: You claimed town when the game started. I don't see how this qualifies as "claiming when i am in danger of dying"? Rayn You're being purposefully obtuse or something. I was asked to claim at L-1, I said I already did. I was VT and there was no role for me to claim at the time. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
@WoS fuck Rayn's accusations and give town what you've got. If you still get shot you did what you could, right? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On April 28 2013 12:26 Ace wrote: Wos-->alive.notshoot What does that mean? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On April 28 2013 12:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: WoS why did you claim miller when noone even wants you copped, only shot? Did you think at all what kinda WIFOM fest this is going to lead the town into? That's the stupidest thing to do if you are town, and probably the cleverest thing to do if you are mafia. Even without the claim i'm leaning on you being mafia so i will push you getting shot because that is the best play town can do as you claimed. There's nothing to push, you dumbass. Almost everyone has already agreed I should be shot; you don't need to puff up your fucking chest and go "HAY GUISE SHOOT HIM HE SCUM LOOK AT ME" because there's no reason to. Did I not already say I'm fine being shot if it helps the town clear up any confusion like 3 fucking times? I'm just asking people to consider the idea that I'm not scum, which you absolutely refuse to do. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On April 28 2013 12:31 WaveofShadow wrote: There's nothing to push, you dumbass. Almost everyone has already agreed I should be shot; you don't need to puff up your fucking chest and go "HAY GUISE SHOOT HIM HE SCUM LOOK AT ME" because there's no reason to. Did I not already say I'm fine being shot if it helps the town clear up any confusion like 3 fucking times? I'm just asking people to consider the idea that I'm not scum, which you absolutely refuse to do. Yes, i refuse to do so because if you are a miller there was no reason for you to claim, there are other ways to make people to change their mind. If you are mafia it's the cleverest thing you can do. And everyone is not sure if you need to be shot, for example Hopeless, OO, Palmar, Ace(?)... | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 28 2013 06:19 Ace wrote: keyboard went bad. vigilante Yamato77. re-read VisceraEyes filter. med me. cops---> Oatsmaster: kushm4sta, GiygaS, kushm4sta, WaveofShadow,yamato77,VisceraEyes,getmoript, Mr. CC, Hopeless1der, Sylencia, ShiaoPi: VisceraEyes, kushm4sta, yamato77, GiygaS, Mr. Cheesecake, WaveofShadow, Stutters695, getmoript, Hopeless1der ShiaoPi-->temp green.Sharrant--> green On April 28 2013 07:42 Ace wrote: Wos--->filter--->alibi!!!!!! re-read! no vig yet till that. look @OP! | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On April 28 2013 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote: So continue preaching to the choir by all means. In the meantime, I'm gonna go over here and be, ya know, USEFUL. Forget him, do your thing. I am listening. If you need to bounce some ideas off me I'm game. Should be around for a bit. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
Can you just say what do you mean? I don't understand. | ||
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