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On April 26 2013 14:51 ObviousOne wrote:
Dear Artanis,
I hope this letter finds you in good health. It has been a semi-troubling evening as there are very few players around to continue discussion as sleep takes us to dream world.
This thread grows ever-larger, and I wish to inquire on your progress in reading the game. It has been some time since you joined and, while I'm sure you don't want to comment very much on things from many many pages ago, it would be fantastic to know if you will be caught up before the game day ends so we can get some informed reads from you regarding today's lynch.
Please return this note with your response at your earliest.
Warm and fuzzies,
ObviousOne
Woke up an hour ago and read up the latest posts but once again haven't gone back into the first day and such yet, will do so today. I just realized I had a derp yesterday as I said that I couldn't believe none of BC/Palmar/VE/Ace got hit last night, but both BC and Palmar claimed RB so there's a good chance one of them got jailed, in which case they probably got hit as I just can't wrap my head around Vivax getting doublestacked, so one of BC/Palmar very likely got hit by scum. I'm therefore not interested in specifically lynching a vet at the moment.
On April 26 2013 13:52 Sharrant wrote:
Stutters695
If you believe at all in hosts balancing the game, then you should want Stutters dead. I have all 3 real "veteran" players that are in the game marked as slightly townie or higher for each of them. However, people seem to forget we have 4 veterans. DrHelvetica started off in this game before being replaced by Stutters. When we hit night phase he needs to be shot ASAP.
I've talked with I think it was Marv before, and he told me BH always RNGs his setups. I wouldn't use setup balance as an argument for killing anyone here.
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Good to see now that I've read the last 3 pages that Bill Murray literally posted the same thing about tube before me.
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On April 26 2013 12:51 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 12:44 Ace wrote:
Bill Murray/ObviousOne what do you have to say about the recent discussion going on?
OO Bill Murray is an eccentric kind of player. It is very possible he didn't read the thread, or read it and saw something no one else did and chose to comment on it. That is just how he is. Yeah probably I just expected him to be around at this time and wanted to check if he was here, also I 100% believe in the rule but if he admits he isn't caught up then I will take that at face value. BM, would scum Palmar leave town you open as a possible mislynch instead of telling everyone: Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:21 Palmar wrote:
Bill Murray is the towniest fucker in this thread. Basically that's where I ended up on you as well but it wasn't until some time later after everything settled in. From Palmar's perspective he is encouraging your possible scum reads and has essentially been playing by proxy +1'ing other people's posts. I guess I can see how he arrived there quickly since he was paying attention to you and I wasn't as concerned with getting a read on you at that point.
not to mention I'm really good.
so why are we not lynching VE yet?
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On April 26 2013 20:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 12:51 ObviousOne wrote:On April 26 2013 12:44 Ace wrote:
Bill Murray/ObviousOne what do you have to say about the recent discussion going on?
OO Bill Murray is an eccentric kind of player. It is very possible he didn't read the thread, or read it and saw something no one else did and chose to comment on it. That is just how he is. Yeah probably I just expected him to be around at this time and wanted to check if he was here, also I 100% believe in the rule but if he admits he isn't caught up then I will take that at face value. BM, would scum Palmar leave town you open as a possible mislynch instead of telling everyone: On April 23 2013 09:21 Palmar wrote:
Bill Murray is the towniest fucker in this thread. Basically that's where I ended up on you as well but it wasn't until some time later after everything settled in. From Palmar's perspective he is encouraging your possible scum reads and has essentially been playing by proxy +1'ing other people's posts. I guess I can see how he arrived there quickly since he was paying attention to you and I wasn't as concerned with getting a read on you at that point. not to mention I'm really good. so why are we not lynching VE yet?
cause hes likely town.
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So I believe Ave enough to switch off him, seems I'm interpreting his words differently than everyone else :/ Anyway, due to the tube thing that ShiaoPi said, I think that Clarity is a better lynch, and I'm jumping on that wagon. I'm going to be looking at WoS's filter and posting on him when I get home today.
##Unvote Ace
##Vote Clarity_nl
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
weeee......catching up now.
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GiygaS no longer my #1 vig shot, move him to the bottom of my previous list. His last post covers a discrepency I thought there was in his filter. He still reads kind of opportonuistic, but unless Clarity flips green he can stay around for a while.
As far as Yamato goes, I'm still thinking he's most likely town. I would not place him in the vig list. Also, anyone that thinks VE is scum shouldn't think that Yamato is too. Yamato pushed really hard for VE's lynch on day one.
If there's anyone that has both VE and Yamato as strong scum reads, they should be looked into.
I'll be reading from my phone for the next while. I won't be posting unless there's something particularly important I find, or if someone asks me something that only takes a small response.
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Posting from phone: like your analysis of kush, BM.
This is one of those things to me that seems to be only one of two possibilities:
BM is either extremely right about this, or this is one of those massive fabricated cases by scum in order to achieve a mislynch (like the one kita attempted on me in The Game before I claimed).
I'm not going to be around until later but ill check up every so often. Still unsure as to where to throw my vote right now, there are a lot of scumspects flying around and many of them don't coincide with my reads necessarily. If things continue as they are I will probably vote Shiao (despite what Sharrant says---still believe Sharrant is town but don't always agree with his analysis) but I don't want to contribute to a lynch I won't necessarily be around for as I'd like to contribute more to discussion.
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On April 26 2013 20:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 12:51 ObviousOne wrote:On April 26 2013 12:44 Ace wrote:
Bill Murray/ObviousOne what do you have to say about the recent discussion going on?
OO Bill Murray is an eccentric kind of player. It is very possible he didn't read the thread, or read it and saw something no one else did and chose to comment on it. That is just how he is. Yeah probably I just expected him to be around at this time and wanted to check if he was here, also I 100% believe in the rule but if he admits he isn't caught up then I will take that at face value. BM, would scum Palmar leave town you open as a possible mislynch instead of telling everyone: On April 23 2013 09:21 Palmar wrote:
Bill Murray is the towniest fucker in this thread. Basically that's where I ended up on you as well but it wasn't until some time later after everything settled in. From Palmar's perspective he is encouraging your possible scum reads and has essentially been playing by proxy +1'ing other people's posts. I guess I can see how he arrived there quickly since he was paying attention to you and I wasn't as concerned with getting a read on you at that point. not to mention I'm really good. so why are we not lynching VE yet?
See what happens to him N2 before lynching him seems to be potentially better than lynching him now, I prefer Shiao lynch
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Anyone wanting to lynch shiaopi over clarity has to adequately explain why shiaopi put pressure on tube (the confirmed mafia) over any of the people lurking just as heavily.
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I already did; easy towncred since they knew he was getting modkilled. Gonna wait to hear what else he has to say right now though since he's apparently catching up.
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Anyone wanting yamato lynched at all should read his wifom post about the night kills. He town slips by talking about the possibility of mafia being jailed offensively and having their kill rbed, mafia would know their n1 kp is all non-roleblockable. Only on night 2 and on do they gain kp that can be rbed.
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Yamato being absentee is fucking weird...he didn't give any indication that he'd be gone for so long and he's got a BC case to refute if he can.
I want to lynch Palmar still.
Nothing has changed since I left except BM posting a lot and Palmar continuing to be awful.
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I'm null on Clarity...there's just too many other more scummy people to me.
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My list is still pretty good. Im content with lynching Shiaopi or Clarity today.
Shiaopi mentioning tube is a null tell. Look at what I did as scum in Nomination: I bussed some useless guy on our team. Except with Tube, he hadnt posted a thing. It's easy to call out your inactive scummate when nobody else is. Tube wasnt getting lynched anyway, I think we all know that. So the call out doesnt go in favor of shiaopi at all.
VE shouldnt be lynched today. nor palmar nor BC nor ace nor yamato. Shiaopi clarity and perhaps giygas make the lynch list. Kill one. Vig the others. We tackle vets come day 3.
I want shiaopi and clarity to post more and prove their innocence if they posses it.
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On April 27 2013 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato being absentee is fucking weird...he didn't give any indication that he'd be gone for so long and he's got a BC case to refute if he can.
I want to lynch Palmar still.
Nothing has changed since I left except BM posting a lot and Palmar continuing to be awful.
Being absent and not telling people is a towntell.bScum make sure people know they arent actively lurking.
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On April 27 2013 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm null on Clarity...there's just too many other more scummy people to me.
This. I think I have a little time now so I'll re-look into him and I want to look at Giygas as well; I know one thing many people have mentioned in post-game analyses recently that people don't look into dead people enough and Oats did want to lynch Giygas real early. I remember his reasoning being dumb or non_existent but worth looking at I guess.
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On April 27 2013 00:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato being absentee is fucking weird...he didn't give any indication that he'd be gone for so long and he's got a BC case to refute if he can.
I want to lynch Palmar still.
Nothing has changed since I left except BM posting a lot and Palmar continuing to be awful. Being absent and not telling people is a towntell.bScum make sure people know they arent actively lurking.
The thing is, Yamato DID say "I'll respond to this when I have time"
So I mean, what you say may be true, but what Yamato says could be construed as doing exactly what you say. It's subjective. We really need him to respond to the case.
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On April 27 2013 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yamato being absentee is fucking weird...he didn't give any indication that he'd be gone for so long and he's got a BC case to refute if he can.
I want to lynch Palmar still.
Nothing has changed since I left except BM posting a lot and Palmar continuing to be awful.
You're not lynching palmar today, and that's final. Lynch clarity or with me. Or explain how other people jumped ahead of him in terms of scumminess.
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On April 27 2013 00:32 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm null on Clarity...there's just too many other more scummy people to me. This. I think I have a little time now so I'll re-look into him and I want to look at Giygas as well; I know one thing many people have mentioned in post-game analyses recently that people don't look into dead people enough and Oats did want to lynch Giygas real early. I remember his reasoning being dumb or non_existent but worth looking at I guess.
Well when people say "dead people" I'm assuming they mean "dead people who mafia killed" because that's actual information you can use to find mafia. Looking into dead Oats' posts isn't going to help you find scum because we lynched him.
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