On April 08 2013 08:23 ObviousOne wrote:British Empire Mini Mafia II [Town]:Comfortable with 180 when confronted with new information
Openly questions his detractors
Sarcasm/teeth to his posts
Early game attention grabber with BS vote on Marv (wasn't even in the game) - not afraid of the spotlight
Direct/engaged mid-lategame
One of his post-game posts I believe he mentioned before in this game, that he was trying to change up his playstyle a bit:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 09 2013 09:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well, just reading the thread and getting reads off that is easy, actually doing analysis on players and posting it and trying to convince others, using meta, etc. is something else and it's not something you bothered with. When I did do so and people barely/didn't respond to it and still happily voted for me, it doesn't particularly make the game very fun.
Fruity Mafia [Town]:First major thing that stands out to me is how he formulated this post. He talked about 4 other players then said ObviousOne looked bad (I really did, bee tee dubs):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17802815He guilted me out of my scum read on Toad (Zessionar in that game):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17811235Full of questions / interactions / poking
Was a town power role and got very bold D2 but town confidence overall was high.
Otherwise rather similar to British
TL Mafia LI [Mafia]:Talks about things mafia would/wouldn't do (his example was scum don't make big slips)
Points out a big scum slip (lol see above)
Posts in a reassuring tone (regarding his own reads)
Attacked inactivity and claims
Post-game confessions:
Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 14:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm surprised so many people thought I was scum, given that I would've done the same lurking as town given the size of the game. I would've posted more if I could but I simply got lost in all the traffic; def won't be playing another 30 player game. The only post that really tipped me off was the one ghost accurately called out, I don't think I would've made that as town but mafia IRC said it was a good idea. Given my early bus on VE after his claim I'd think after VE flipped I'd get a bit more credit too.
Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]:- Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment -
I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games- Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability -
not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool- Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time -
not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself- Defensive stance -
possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia factionTHIS GAME:Dismissive in D0, not chasing shadows or anything really
Some concept of a plan presented, not really pushed
Not very inquisitive
Giant poop in the thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18226316No real back-and-forth happening
Barely here
The OBVIOUS conclusion:
ScumSpend way more time defending / deflecting than scum hunting, less interactive than his town games. By extension of this, he's missing that edge of sarcasm and incredulity in his voice that is present when he calls people out on their bullshit as town. He doesn't seem interested in getting people to re-factor their reads. Way too defensive to match his town meta in any way.
Added note: his filter is barely 2 pages and we've already been active for four real-time days if I am not fucking up my maths. Both scum game filters were short (less than 3 pages each) and showed him hiding by posting just enough to not be considered a lurker.