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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2013 19:28 GMT
#2941
alright, well whatever happens, happens.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2013 20:58 GMT
#2968
well

at least we didnt lose

we'll have to laugh at sinani post game
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2013 20:58 GMT
#2969
oh wait, did sinani shoot hapa? I think rayn didnt actually shoot anyone
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2013 20:59 GMT
#2970
also ##vote sinani
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2013 21:28 GMT
#2973
?
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 03 2013 22:04 GMT
#2982
On April 04 2013 07:03 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 07:02 marvellosity wrote:
ok, glad I guessed that right when you first mentioned it at least

I've been giving hints a lot longer than that, sweetie <3


yeah no you guys made it pretty obvious
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 04 2013 14:10 GMT
#3022
Yeah so gg everybody!

I feel like this was an all-around win - scum really only needed one or two more mislynches after the vote rigged double lynch.

Key elements to the victory - good "town atmosphere" leadership by Hapahauli and a generally productive town that made it impossible for Yamato and sinani to stay hidden; bauss job catching acro by keirathi; and the accumulation of five (!) confirmed townies due to marv and me winning the world wifom championships on consecutive nights, as well as scum's curious blindness to keirathi's lovers claim.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 04 2013 14:27 GMT
#3024
Setup comments: in general, I liked the way roles were distributed. If Ryan was an actual third party whose wincon was to kill all masons, and there was something in the OP about a mason hunter, the I think it would have been a very good setup. That would have created a real dilemma for things like keirathi and corazon claiming, instead of basically just making them two free confirmed towns, plus I imagine having reasons to keep their identities secret in the mason qt would have made some interesting dynamics for the mason circle.

I like the idea of having three different classes of roles as a way to balance a themed game - ie, the "real vanilla" roles, then the "fake vanilla" roles, and then the real blue roles. I also really liked how prplhz's role interacted with the rest of the setup, in that it rewards prp for figuring out roles, and adds another level to claiming / fake claiming.

Two things I don't like. First, I don't like the way obviousone's role worked out. The concept is fine and actually quite clever. However, I think the prohibition against letting people know about the extra information has to go farther - you can't be able to say "I know this thing but I can't tell you why or else I'll be modkilled." That doesn't leave anything unclear, because the only way a player could get that kind of information without getting modkilled just for having it is if the information comes from the host. Plus then when he dies, you can just go to his filter and look for what he said he knew but couldn't say for fear of getting modkilled. IMO it should be harder to figure that out.

That said, his role didn't actually matter this game, because Marv confirmed himself with his roleblock before we ever would have lynched him, regardless of OO's extra information.

Second, I don't like how kurumi came into the thread with the "to modkill or not to modkill" stuff. That made me a lot more trusting of Marv's claim than I otherwise would have been, and while I tried to ignore it, there's always some subconscious bias. I think there was nothing wrong with what Marv said; if you're going to put roles with certain naming conventions into your game, you have to either give scum appropriate fake claims, or else you have to make the role names confusing. You can't expect people not to claim their role name and color, those are just basic things, and the "role pm rule" is there for things like comparing PM times and the wording of rules clauses and flavor text. That aside, if there's a question about modkilling for stuff that gets said in the game, it has to be made by the host outside of the thread, maybe in consultation with other hosts on irc or skype, but it needs to be outside of the game or else it will influence the game.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 04 2013 14:30 GMT
#3025
On April 04 2013 23:21 cDgCorazon wrote:
GG guys.

Kei never said anything about lovers before the end of the game. He explicitly said that if we claim we would leave out the "lovers" thing. By the time he had hinted enough towards it, we had the numbers.

Thanks to Kei for having to deal with me as a mason partner, and to Kurumi for hosting ^^


He said the thing about Marv's plans maybe not working out before the end of day 2, and as soon as he said that it was obvious what was going on. If scum had been paying attention they would have killed one of you with one of the day2 double lynches.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 04 2013 14:37 GMT
#3028
Oh I thought it was when you were asking acro to explain how his unlynchable role worked because we could ensure a favorable outcome on mechanics.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 04 2013 14:38 GMT
#3029
On April 04 2013 23:33 Kurumi wrote:
OO did not get info that marv is town. You can check what would he learn in the "Roles!" section in the spreadsheet: He was given info that there are only 3 Mafioso N1.


Hahahahaha holy shit what

Wow OO that was a fucking ballsy play then. Really gambling all-in on the Marv town read.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 04 2013 14:39 GMT
#3030
Also that would have been good to know when we all spent like 72 hours trying to figure out the fourth scum.
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