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On March 29 2013 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Really, that's all the effort you are willing to put into this? What do you want me to do? Quote my own post? I've explained why I don't think JarJar is Town, and why I think his claim is fake. I'm reading through filters now to see the overall play of yourself, TRN, Rainbows. If i find something that convinces me I could be wrong and JarJar is really just a horrible town, I'll gladly consider rethinking my position. I don't think rainbows would go to all the trouble of tunneling me so hard for being afk just to try and get a mislynch, then fake a cop check town on me and start acting nice, when I know for a fact that I'm town. He also started hard defending TRN after his claimed check on him too. I don't think a mafia would hard defend another one so hard, so early in the game, makes far more sense for him to be wishy washy then bus him for town cred. If he has done all of the above, then all I can say is well played, because town hasn't been in control of this game anywhere near enough for me to be able to disprove it, especially at MyLo, and especially when I think JarJar is scum. You attempting to question me (by the way, all you've done all game is ask people questions, which at first glance looks quite useful, but a lot of what I'm reading looks like attempts to divert the conversation, distract etc), doesn't suddenly make Rainbows claim look fake and JarJar's real. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's distracting only if you don't make conclusions from your questions. I think i have been clear to offer my thoughts after people have answered me - i mean, i ask question, they answer, i make conclusions from the answers and point them out in thread. My reason behind the question is this. If you are town you can easily come up with any possible scum combos assuming Rainbows/JarJar are both telling the truth and have a reasonable answer (if you think it's possible or not). If you are mafia it's much harder because you do not want to out your scumbuddy and you want to lynch a townie this phase and other players might see the flaws in your logic. That's what i was after. Now it's irrelevant becauase you dodged the question already and threw the ball back at me by discrediting my playstyle. Wrong. If you are town, you have people you think are mafia. If someone you think is mafia claims blue, and someone you think isn't mafia claims blue, it is entirely possible and reasonable, to say that you don't think it's possible both blue claims are true. Also: at this point, with 5 players and the votes being 3/2, both mafia have to be voting with each other, unless at only FIVE players left, "Town's" two lynch candidates are both town - in which case we have already lost. I know I'm town, so from my perspective I'm either voting with 2 town, or 2 scum. You and JarJar are defending each other, Rainbows and TRN are defending each other, and out of everyone left I think JarJar is the scummiest, CLAIMS ASIDE. Add in the fact I think his claim is fake, or if it's real then lol nice medic prot targets and play, then it's a no brainer for me. If i'm wrong, then i'm wrong and can accept that, considering I've been absent for some (most) of the game. But I just don't believe him. | ||
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On March 29 2013 23:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:Virtu, say I'm a bad townie all you want. But you're saying that you believe a cop would actually investigate to confirm town. How can you even consider that to be true? I've read plenty of mafia games on this site, and more often than not cop checks are done to confirm town, especially in smaller games. Infact they're often used to check null reads, and a lot of people were on TRN's back at the start of the game but he survived the day, so I can believe he was checked. Also i was completely null due to not being around. | ||
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On March 30 2013 00:19 JarJarDrinks wrote: It's my first game on TL. I've played a bit elsewhere but the roles were very different. But I am capable of reading and the cop role here is to catch bad guys. If a cop investigates someone and expects them to flip green then he's playing it wrong. @Virtu like I said, you may think I played bad as a townie. But (assuming you're the townie) the game is going to be decided by you. And believing Rainbows cop claim is just so much worse than bad play you can accuse me of. Believing your claim would be easier if anything you've done this game made sense, if Rainbows is mafia and you're blue then my believing him only stems from the way you claimed, your terrible prot targets, and your wishywashy voting D2. there's NO excuse for voting for 4 different people in a game with a MAXIMUM of 3 mafia and likely two. On March 13 2013 05:47 JarJarDrinks wrote: K, from what I can tell, a smurf is an alt account. I can assure you, I just opened my first account a few minutes ago. I've only ever lurked. You don't know what a smurf account is, you've only opened your account a few minutes before this game, but you're certain I'm a worse player than you for believing Rainbows claim over yours. K. On March 22 2013 12:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: Hey all, Don't worry I wont lurk @ all once the game starts rolling. Being how I've never played against any of y'all I have nothing to base any read off so I probably wont throw down a vote untill everyone's posted a bit. "Hey guys, I won't lurk once people do the work for me and i can sheep onto a lynch" ...continued below ..."like this". Me too, great reasoning and case there. By the way - the ACTUAL reason you voted for him was becuase he thought you were scummy and voted for you, basically an OMGUS vote. On March 23 2013 09:32 JarJarDrinks wrote: So while I'm still suspicious of Raven. I don't think he looks as scummy as Frorgon does. ##Unvote: TheRavensName ##Vote: Frorgon You're still suspicious of him, you make sure to tell us that, at the same time you take your vote off him. On March 25 2013 02:48 JarJarDrinks wrote: Ray, I think I've been on the same page as you most of this game. But I have to disagree with you on this one. I was online @ the deadline and could have switched to Krafla. But giving him a free pass from day 1 wasn't a concern of mine. I voted Frorgon because I thought he was the most likely to be scum. And while Kraflas one post was pretty terrible, it wasn't enough to give me a scum read. @ least nowhere near the read I had Frogorn. When you voted for Krafla, was it because you thought he was the most likely person to be scum? This feels forced to me, the way you say the bolded part just looks like a carefully constructed bit of scum posting about another scum. On March 25 2013 03:50 JarJarDrinks wrote: As I said already, I didn't vote for him because I thought Frogorn was more likely to be scum. I can't tell you exactly what I'm willing to do @ the end of day 2. If Krafla doesn't contribute again than he's certainly someone I'm gonna suspect. But if I have a better scum read on someone, than that's where my vote is going. On March 26 2013 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote: Yeah, I guess it seems like he wasn't as likely to be lynched as I remember. So that does put a hole in some of my reasoning. Actually we're waiting on anything from virtu. He was supposed to post in 5 hours like a day ago. I don't think we can let him continue to ignore this thread. If he's town, he done nothing to even appear as if he's trying to help. So based on those 2 things, I'm gonna: ##Unvote ##Vote: virtu So from these two quotes, firstly you say that if krafla doesn't stop lurking soonish you're going to be suspicious of him. You then post a chummy agree with ray post for like the 5th time in the game, being as friendly with him as Rainbows is with TRN, finally when Krafla DOES eventually post, all he does is conveniently highlight the fact that I haven't posted for almost the whole day, which convinces you to switch your vote to me. I guess your heart just wasn't in your last vote then was it? On March 27 2013 09:13 JarJarDrinks wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Krafla Pretty sure Krafla just outed himself here. Another vote switch, for a stupid reason. Townies would never say if X flips green then Y? Well, actually, they do it all the time. The frequency with which people flip green that another town member is "100% Certain no way in hell he's flipping green" happens, you have to prepare for this inevitability. Also this puts your vote onto the third person of the evening, with 3 on NW and 2 on TRN, but your vote is still on the fence. You're going to do some more investiagative work surely... On March 27 2013 09:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: ##unvote ##vote: TheRavensName But that still means NW gets lynched correct? Oh wait, no you're not. Rather than vote for one of the THREE people who have already been your mafia suspects for the day, you switch your vote to someone you have hardly mentioned all day. Not only that but you make sure to ask whether your vote will get him lynched or not due to the tie breaker. Is your heart not in that out-of-the-blue vote with no case or reasoning on person #4 for the day or what? Don't want to be responsible for it if he gets lynched and draw attention to yourself? I could go on but I mean, after your D1 and D2 how you can expect me to believe your blue claim over Rainbows, is just beyond my ability to reason. If you're town, I do NOT feel bad about voting for you today and losing town the game. | ||
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On March 30 2013 07:57 Rainbows wrote: Omg i read that as ending in 10 minutes LOL Ekekeke ##Unvote ##Vote: JarJar | ||
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On March 30 2013 09:14 JarJarDrinks wrote: \sigh I figured you changed your vote cause you decided to RTFT. No such luck I guess? + Show Spoiler + On March 30 2013 02:18 JarJarDrinks wrote: Ok, I guess I can't respond to you when you're just making stuff up that never happened. Like geez, it really sucks when people play the game and don't contribute for days on end, but you'd hope they actually read the thread. Like this is an outright lie. Raven never voted for me prior to my vote for him. In fact my vote for him was because he defended me. Please go back and reread the thread because its frustrating talking to someone that has no clue what actually happened in the game. My bad, he didn't vote for you, he did call you out, and whilst yes he did highlight that he made the same mistake in the previous game that isn't really him defending you. Either way it's a shitty reason to vote for someone. Also, I like how that's all you responded to. Townie about to lose the game puts in more effort than that, but I guess that's more in line with your posts all game, as I pointed out. That's I have to say to you, as I said before either i'm right or i'm wrong and it's a learning curve, but I think you're scum. | ||
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