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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 21:02 GMT
#1821
The Nightmare role was able to appear as whatever they wish during the masoning. So....yeah. There's that.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 20 2013 21:04 GMT
#1822
Any theories on who the mirror could be? I don't think I would be capable of that kind of dramatic posting. Who in this game is? BH would be on the list but he is off the table for this question.
Guts? Determination? $5?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 21:05 GMT
#1823
Ugh...I thought it was sciberbia based on the posting times, but no there are too many people CAPABLE of that style of posting for me to take a guess beyond that.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 20 2013 21:08 GMT
#1824
Would you post the logs with timestamps so I can look at that for myself?
Guts? Determination? $5?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 21:13 GMT
#1825
+ Show Spoiler [Now With Timestamps!!] +
VisceraEyes
03-20-2013
11:50 AM ET (US)
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Fuck it I accept. If I'm going to be ignored by most of the thread, I might as well punish them for it.
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The Mirror
03-20-2013
11:38 AM ET (US)
Of course I have countermeasures for survival. I would not have been given such an arduous task if it were not. And it seems like you are perceptive enough to understand what I offer you.

Do not fret about the delay in notification. That seems to be ... a trend this game. I shall inform you that playing "townie" will be in your best interest, and will hardly conflict with the greater purpose you shall receive. Everything will be made ... crystal clear. A-haha.
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VisceraEyes
03-20-2013
02:34 AM ET (US)
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sciberbia you should probably give me the specifics of your role because you're essentially claiming 3rd party to me here. I have received no notification from DocH that my win condition has changed, so as far as I'm aware I still win with town. You see what sticky situation this puts me in.
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VisceraEyes
03-20-2013
02:26 AM ET (US)
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Ooohhhh you're good. You're REAL good.

Tell me how this arrangement works. Because I'm assuming that I am already a part of whatever you have planned considering the choice of whether to be masoned with you or not is mine.

You're representing "townie" super hard and scum are going to want to kill you. Does your role account for this?
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VisceraEyes
03-20-2013
12:37 AM ET (US)
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Too late you invited the wrong guy. I'm a compulsive claimer you see and have already revealed you to the thread. That would have been cool though.

No, if I keep surviving town would just lynch me. I'm of no use to you I'm afraid. But I may be of use to town. Thanks for the offer though! I'll tell you what: I'll give you until D4 to gather as many supporters as you can, then I reveal your purposes to town and we hunt you down.

That is, if I live that long :OOOOOOOOO

Unless you can convince me? If you have the power to give me what you say, surely you have a purpose in mind for bestowing it to me. If I were to...know that purpose?
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The Mirror
03-19-2013
11:52 PM ET (US)
Welcome, VisceraEyes, to my humble abode.

I come to offer you a titillating proposition. I have powers. Oh so great powers. And it seems like you too have a great power. I want you to join me. I want you to employ you for my services, and in return I shall bestow upon you even greater power. Even, dare I say it, immortality.

"Surely you jest" you may think. But think closer again. I have already begun to recruit the brightest and crafty of minds. Town, mafia, these factions are child's play. These are just mere pawns in the greater power that is I, the Mirror.

I offer you an invitation to join me. It does not matter whether you herald town or scum.

If you are town, you have quite the powerful role. But dare I muse, it cannot be without limit? To you I offer an impregnable shield, one who will not falter during the night. Hide behind he and you can gain for yourself immortality.

If you are scum, then you will play the part of the double agent. Use your former teammates at your disposal. Manipulate the scum team to your own devices? To be numbered among the greats such as Keyser Söze, Mr. Orange, William "Billy" Costigan, Jr. or Staff Sgt. Colin Sullivan. Perhaps, to live out the dream that could have been Bureaucracy?

Of course if you are neither, you already know my purposes, and that you are but a step behind. Pressure me, threaten me, do as you wish, for I know it is all but a meaningless bluff.

My reach is infinite and it is not long that I will gather enough for my grand purposes. You may choose to join, you may choose to decline. What I offer you isn't employment ... but true freedom.
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VisceraEyes
03-19-2013
08:23 PM ET (US)
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I demand satisfaction, mystery mason! REVEAL YOURSELF!
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VisceraEyes
03-19-2013
08:17 PM ET (US)
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Interesting development. -.-
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 20 2013 21:24 GMT
#1826
So here is a summary of what can be reasonably supposed about The Mirror, given what you say is true.

1. You can choose to terminate your contact with him at any point (though we have no idea why this is a necessary thing).
2. He likely is unshootable or at least has vet powers.
3. He is likely 3rd party (though longshot could be scum).
4. He is a recruitment role.

Here are the possible ways that the recruiting could work.

1. It is like the nightmare role, and it is a forced recruitment on the following day/night.
2. Same as #1 but requires you to accept.
3. If you don't cancel the QT within a period of time, you are recruited.

2 and 3 don't seem likely to me so here is where I get to a sticking poiint VE.

I'm not convinced you are not scum. Also even if you are town, and The Mirror's mechanic works in a reasonable way, that means you are already 3rd party through accepting or through immediate press-ganging, or you are going to become 3rd party in the near future, which is supported by this quote from The Mirror, "the greater purpose you shall receive"(IE, you haven't received it yet). So explain how lynching you after you provide these super cases you promised is not the best course of action.

We get possible scum or likely third party. If you aren't third party yet then we deny The Mirror an expansion to his 3p
Guts? Determination? $5?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 21:34 GMT
#1827
Cool, so we're back to where I started here! Thanks DYH this has taken a lot of space and ended up being completely useless!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 21:35 GMT
#1828
The only answer I have for that is "I'm town" and "I'd rather lynch scum". I already said I understand that I'm a viable lynch candidate, I don't understand the point of your question.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 21:42 GMT
#1829
And wait a sec DYH. Why is it a longshot that he could be scum? Aren't you the one who raised the argument "Well that sounds kinda wonky for Normal". Isn't it more likely that it's just scum fucking with me than a recruiting mason with a strange recruiting mechanic?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 20 2013 21:45 GMT
#1830
On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote:
Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him.

Oh for fuck sakes.
Lynch this guy once you're done with VE/Wiggles.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 20 2013 21:48 GMT
#1831
On March 21 2013 06:04 DoYouHas wrote:
Any theories on who the mirror could be? I don't think I would be capable of that kind of dramatic posting. Who in this game is? BH would be on the list but he is off the table for this question.

Oh and as for who the Mirror theories are:
On March 21 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, speculation time about The Mirror (assuming it exists and isn't some sort of fabrication).
BH, VE, layabout and sandroba are the only players from Bureaucracy mafia in this game. WIFOM aside (I really don't think the reference to that specific mafia game was done as a fake crumb) this also includes the possibility of one of the smurfs being players in that game and being The Mirror.

The above is probably a harder assumption to make, but I'm at least certain that none of the newer players here would have gone back to research old games they didn't even know about just to throw in that one reference.

Now I'm also wondering about what he was referring to regarding that 'immortality' shit. Is it possible for there to be a role that enhances other roles?
/speculation


Hey VE, are you going to comment on this pot of shit you've just stirred up? What is going through our head right now?

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
March 20 2013 21:50 GMT
#1832
On March 21 2013 06:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote:
Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him.

Oh for fuck sakes.
Lynch this guy once you're done with VE/Wiggles.


What did you expect? Staying on you after you blue-claimed?
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 20 2013 22:06 GMT
#1833
VE, I'm just trying to cover my bases information-wise in case you do flip town.

Just look at how my points have lined up and you can already see the list of things I don't think add up, and I haven't even dug super hard into your filter.

1. The way you handled your accusation of BH after revealing the Masoning is not indicative of a townie mindset.
2. The timing of your reveal that BH was masoning you is not indicative of a townie mindset.
3. Your vet claim only gave additional information to the scum team.
4. You can supposedly cut off communication with The Mirror at will, but there is nothing to suggest that this specific mechanic affects what the Mirror does at all if my suppositions on how he works are in any way accurate.
5. The Mirror is completely un-phased by your revealing to the thread that he exists.

Vote: VisceraEyes
Guts? Determination? $5?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 22:10 GMT
#1834
On March 21 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
And wait a sec DYH. Why is it a longshot that he could be scum? Aren't you the one who raised the argument "Well that sounds kinda wonky for Normal". Isn't it more likely that it's just scum fucking with me than a recruiting mason with a strange recruiting mechanic?

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 22:12 GMT
#1835
I'm an awful lynch today. Scum just SHOT me, seriously you're doing their work for them.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 20 2013 22:18 GMT
#1836
On March 21 2013 06:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
And wait a sec DYH. Why is it a longshot that he could be scum? Aren't you the one who raised the argument "Well that sounds kinda wonky for Normal". Isn't it more likely that it's just scum fucking with me than a recruiting mason with a strange recruiting mechanic?


Scum screwing with you does make more sense than anything else we have supposed.
Guts? Determination? $5?
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 20 2013 22:18 GMT
#1837
EBWOP: For explaining The Mirror.
Guts? Determination? $5?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 20 2013 22:21 GMT
#1838
On March 21 2013 07:06 DoYouHas wrote:
VE, I'm just trying to cover my bases information-wise in case you do flip town.

Just look at how my points have lined up and you can already see the list of things I don't think add up, and I haven't even dug super hard into your filter.

1. The way you handled your accusation of BH after revealing the Masoning is not indicative of a townie mindset.
2. The timing of your reveal that BH was masoning you is not indicative of a townie mindset.
3. Your vet claim only gave additional information to the scum team.
4. You can supposedly cut off communication with The Mirror at will, but there is nothing to suggest that this specific mechanic affects what the Mirror does at all if my suppositions on how he works are in any way accurate.
5. The Mirror is completely un-phased by your revealing to the thread that he exists.

Vote: VisceraEyes


1) I already explained. The way I handled my accusation of BH was the only way I could without being able to post mason logs. Do you disagree with my points against BH? What about the points Mocsta raised?

2) The timing was such that yes, I was trying to attract a shot from scum. I did it in the way I did it so that we could discuss what I brought up regarding Wade in the the hours leading up to the lynch. Why wasn't Wade shot? If he's this "super powerful mason" that I'm such a baddie for outting to the thread, why didn't scum shoot him dead instead of me?

3) My claim was originally "I was hit". I only claimed vet because people were asking about it, and because people were up in arms about me "outting" BH in the first place. There was confusion, and I tried to clear it up. Should I have done ignored people asking about it? How could I? How could I explain that I knew that I took a hit without saying HOW I knew I was hit and how I was still alive? I don't get what you were expecting.

4) Irrelevant. None of this makes me a good lynch candidate.

5) Again, irrelevant in regard to me as a lynch candidate.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22341 Posts
March 20 2013 22:21 GMT
#1839
Alright, first of all: Please cut down the spam.

Second: We lynch VE, maybe not today, but at a later point. He did something abismally dumb and says he didn't get a response after writing "I accept", yet on the other hand says he cut off the communications with The Mirror afterwards. So we don't know what's up, except that he just created a whole lot of confusion to shit up the thread, and he deserves to be lynched for that and cause we are unsure what his alignment really is now.

He said he didn't get host confirmation for his wincon change, yet his line might be enough as condition to join that party, so even if he's not sure himself, we lynch him.

On another note: I think Wiggles is town for reasons stated. We see he had an early townread on WoS and wasn't afraid to explain it before his claim, so that kinda makes me trust him. Aside from that it doesn't look like scum Wiggles from the game I was in with him. Scum WIggles and Scum sciberbia (and me)

I would prefer to lynch cosmicomics today and leave VE for a later point. I don't think his party has KP and I believe his claim that he has been shot.
However we don't know if he survived cause he is bulletproof third party or really a veteran.

This 3p likely has no KP and just tries to grow and outnumber town. So they aren't as threatening as scum, that means we try to lynch scum first.

If someone is willing to join me in the lynch on my previously stated reads please tell me. I'll take layabout away from them for the moment cause of his case against WF. Cosmicomics and GK are the way to go first, though.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 20 2013 22:21 GMT
#1840
So here is an interesting thing, VE. If you think that there is a decent chance that The Mirror is scum, why are you still pushing the idea that BH is scum mason. Do you really think that mafia have 2 masoning roles?
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