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On March 21 2013 07:21 DoYouHas wrote:
So here is an interesting thing, VE. If you think that there is a decent chance that The Mirror is scum, why are you still pushing the idea that BH is scum mason. Do you really think that mafia have 2 masoning roles?
It's possible, but frankly the idea that the Mirror could be scum hadn't occurred to me until we started having this conversation. Stuck in my WF tunnel you see. :/
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I could get behind a WF lynch too I think.
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I think we may have found the answer to this, VE. The Mirror being mafia explains the inconsistencies better than anything else I've seen. Why pick VE? because VE has already outed his first masoning, and so is almost guaranteed to out this one as well. We can already see the The Mirror doesn't seem to be concerned with VE's reveal. If the point of this whole thing is to spread misinformation everything fits pretty snugly into place.
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On March 21 2013 06:50 glurio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 06:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote:
Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him. Oh for fuck sakes. Lynch this guy once you're done with VE/Wiggles. What did you expect? Staying on you after you blue-claimed?
No, I'm expecting you to have more than 15 posts to your name by the end of D2.
You posted most of those right at the start of D1, then disappeared all day, then did the same thing D2.
Classic 'pretending to contribute' then lurking.
You're scum but I doubt I could get a strong enough wagon going on you today when there's still Mr. Wiggles to consider.
You played better than this in LX, and EXACTLY like this in NMM 36, where you were scum.
On February 04 2013 08:06 glurio wrote:Thanks for that post marvel. I'd like to apologize to everyone for me being so inactive. I actually was lurking a lot this game. After the last game i wanted to contribute much more but rolled scum and often was too scared to post. Because everything i wrote up sounded incredibly scummy or stupid, so i didn't. Since most of town were killing each other anyway. I'll try to make the next game more fun for everyone. 
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Zare has confirmed being masoned to BH has he not?
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If BH is town mason then there's a rub: why would scum mason me when I'm stuck in this BH tunnel? Would that not really put doubt in my BH read?
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I want to apologize for my inactivity. Since I was last active I was shortly in the hospital and had to unexpectedly drive my sister across the state. I've got some things to say after my 30-page-read-a-thon.
So like 30 bajillion people claimed. WoS did so in just about the scummiest way possible and if he is town needs to think a little bit before acting that way next time. It seems to me we have no choice but to believe him for now, but if a scum were going to fake claim to save themselves WoS's claim is about as good as it gets for scum.
VE was on the scum list for me before any of this stuff went down, but something about his interactions with "The Mirror" just doesn't add up. I think the most likely scenario if that he is some form of anti-town and we've caught him in a lie. No matter what's actually going on, I don't think we have much choice but to kill him today.
##Vote: VisceraEyes
I find the fact that my inactivity caused BH to be less suspicious of me a huge scum tell for him. All game long I was in his top 2 for scum and then all of the sudden the time comes that he has to justify his reasoning and I'm no longer there. Its clear that he chose his targets before he came up with his reasoning and this makes no sense as town. BH is scum. Town BH is too talented to peg someone as scum for disagreeing with them on a single point during day 1.
I'm sure BH will rebut this point by pointing out how he's listed me since then and tell us all about how my inactivity is scummy, but none of those are excuses for having me in his top 2 scum all of D1 without being able to back it up. If he were a sincere town player he'd have been able to make a case on me to back those feelings up from D1 alone, but he couldn't even muster a paragraph.
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I made like 900 cases against you D1, testsubject, and shut you down at every point. The fact of the matter is I can't slap down your crap if you're not posting.
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My reasoning has always been justified.
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On March 21 2013 08:04 Wade Fell wrote:
I made like 900 cases against you D1, testsubject, and shut you down at every point. The fact of the matter is I can't slap down your crap if you're not posting.
I disagree. I'm not going to get into another fight with you over this. You've made it clear you can't have discussions with newer players without spamming.
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On March 21 2013 08:07 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 08:04 Wade Fell wrote:
I made like 900 cases against you D1, testsubject, and shut you down at every point. The fact of the matter is I can't slap down your crap if you're not posting. I disagree. I'm not going to get into another fight with you over this. You've made it clear you can't have discussions with newer players without spamming.
That's not gonna stop me from defending myself against your poorly-veiled omgus.
Here are posts in which I say or explain your scumminess: (link)(link)(awesome link)(link)(link)(link)
then you stopped posting so I couldn't shoot you down more.
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Like, you can't just lurk and ignore me and say "wow WF isn't interacting with me, he must be scum" in one breath and in the other say "I refuse to interact with WF"
This isn't even a scumtell, this is a "testsubject is whiny and unhelpful" tell
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On March 21 2013 07:54 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 06:50 glurio wrote:On March 21 2013 06:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote:
Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him. Oh for fuck sakes. Lynch this guy once you're done with VE/Wiggles. What did you expect? Staying on you after you blue-claimed? No, I'm expecting you to have more than 15 posts to your name by the end of D2. You posted most of those right at the start of D1, then disappeared all day, then did the same thing D2. Classic 'pretending to contribute' then lurking. You're scum but I doubt I could get a strong enough wagon going on you today when there's still Mr. Wiggles to consider. You played better than this in LX, and EXACTLY like this in NMM 36, where you were scum. Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 08:06 glurio wrote:Thanks for that post marvel. I'd like to apologize to everyone for me being so inactive. I actually was lurking a lot this game. After the last game i wanted to contribute much more but rolled scum and often was too scared to post. Because everything i wrote up sounded incredibly scummy or stupid, so i didn't. Since most of town were killing each other anyway. I'll try to make the next game more fun for everyone.
What can i say i'm legit busy right now. I'm moving, and work in my new appartment 12h a day. After that i'm really tired so all i can do is read everything and vote accordingly. Yesterday i took the time to write a case on someone looking very scummy, no one even commented on it so i suspected no one read it. That pissed me off a bit and instead of pushing my case further i went to bed.
Tomorrow the work in the new appartment should be finished so by D3 i should have much more time to spend on the game.
Right now i find mocsta to be scummy. Mostly out of meta reasons though. He really doesn't seem like the kind of guy who wouldn't have finished reading the thread after replacing in. He usually is one of the most active and loud posters in the games, but here he didn't even bother to read everything so far? In most games it seems he's one of the players who spend the most time in the game, reading filters, posting stuff etc.
But then again he said he is really busy with his life which i suppose can be true.
I haven't made up my mind in the whole VE 3rd party situation. But before all that came up i didn't really want to lynch VE or WF tonight. Two claimed blues after all.
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VE look at this from our perspective: You botched your Vet claim as no one is going to claim Veteran under 0 pressure intstead of just saying they took a hit. Even if it's your "meta" - you are aware of it, and know some people here are also. So it would be bad news to claim that.
Second, the 3p thing. You said you lied about accepting his invitation...and posted it in the thread thereby nullfying the purpose of lying. I mean, are you thinking about what we see here? Based on your logs the 3p is going to get stronger once you're in. We really have to lynch you at this point. Doesn't matter that 3p may not be strong now. An anti-town player that can become stronger down the line needs to be dealt with.
So for the last time THINK about this from our perspective and see why you have to be lynched. Those 2 stunts you pulled just don't paint you as town. I also hope you step your game up in the future and stop doing silly shit like roleclaiming just because. This is a damn near policy lynch because of your past behavior.
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On March 21 2013 08:10 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 08:07 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 21 2013 08:04 Wade Fell wrote:
I made like 900 cases against you D1, testsubject, and shut you down at every point. The fact of the matter is I can't slap down your crap if you're not posting. I disagree. I'm not going to get into another fight with you over this. You've made it clear you can't have discussions with newer players without spamming. That's not gonna stop me from defending myself against your poorly-veiled omgus. Here are posts in which I say or explain your scumminess: (link)(link)(awesome link)(link)(link)(link)then you stopped posting so I couldn't shoot you down more.
The last two of those you don't mention me other than just saying I'm scum. Only the "awesome link" contains any real reasoning and the others are just hyperbole. You're effectively just agreeing with me. I'm saying all you had very little argument against me and you come back with, "No, no, look, once I said 'not active enough' and these other times, I called you scum". You're telling me the self-proclaimed best scum hunter on TL bases his top scum read day one solely on "hasn't made any cases"? Please.
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You're never going to convince me that lynching a townie is best for town Ace, no matter what you say. I'm not 3p, I've done what I need to not be recruited (if he's in fact 3p recruiting). You're wrong Ace. Bad wrong.
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Timestamp information:
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Day 1 start: March 16 2013 15:51
First post between GK and Wade - Wade chose to contact GK only 6 hours before deadline (!)
+ Show Spoiler +08:52:00 p.m. Sunday March 17, 2013 in US/Eastern converts to 09:52:00 a.m. Monday March 18, 2013 in Asia/Seoul 03-17-2013
08:52 PM ET (US)
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Mason QT between GoodKarma and Wade Fell for D1 of The Game.
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+ Show Spoiler +The "Mirror" is a third party cult leader of some kind and he tried to recruit me last night. Everyone beware "The Mirror" - he is in our midst and he will try and convert you too. VisceraEyes 03-20-2013 11:50 AM ET (US) EDIT DELETE Fuck it I accept. If I'm going to be ignored by most of the thread, I might as well punish them for it. 7 The Mirror 03-20-2013 11:38 AM ET (US) Of course I have countermeasures for survival. I would not have been given such an arduous task if it were not. And it seems like you are perceptive enough to understand what I offer you. Do not fret about the delay in notification. That seems to be ... a trend this game. I shall inform you that playing "townie" will be in your best interest, and will hardly conflict with the greater purpose you shall receive. Everything will be made ... crystal clear. A-haha.
11:50:00 a.m. Wednesday March 20, 2013 in US/Eastern converts to
12:50:00 a.m. Thursday March 21, 2013 in Asia/Seoul
The timestamps of VE don't seem to be from last night, but from this day. Something is foul here or didn't I check thoroughly?
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On March 21 2013 08:20 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 08:10 Wade Fell wrote:On March 21 2013 08:07 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 21 2013 08:04 Wade Fell wrote:
I made like 900 cases against you D1, testsubject, and shut you down at every point. The fact of the matter is I can't slap down your crap if you're not posting. I disagree. I'm not going to get into another fight with you over this. You've made it clear you can't have discussions with newer players without spamming. That's not gonna stop me from defending myself against your poorly-veiled omgus. Here are posts in which I say or explain your scumminess: (link)(link)(awesome link)(link)(link)(link)then you stopped posting so I couldn't shoot you down more. The last two of those you don't mention me other than just saying I'm scum. Only the "awesome link" contains any real reasoning and the others are just hyperbole. You're effectively just agreeing with me. I'm saying all you had very little argument against me and you come back with, "No, no, look, once I said 'not active enough' and these other times, I called you scum". You're telling me the self-proclaimed best scum hunter on TL bases his top scum read day one solely on "hasn't made any cases"? Please.
1) you're scum
2) i'm not the best scum hunter on tl, but I have like top 3 control
3) just because you, a scum player, find my arguments unconvincing doesn't mean they don't exist.
4) you'rescum
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On March 21 2013 08:21 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 08:20 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 21 2013 08:10 Wade Fell wrote:On March 21 2013 08:07 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 21 2013 08:04 Wade Fell wrote:
I made like 900 cases against you D1, testsubject, and shut you down at every point. The fact of the matter is I can't slap down your crap if you're not posting. I disagree. I'm not going to get into another fight with you over this. You've made it clear you can't have discussions with newer players without spamming. That's not gonna stop me from defending myself against your poorly-veiled omgus. Here are posts in which I say or explain your scumminess: (link)(link)(awesome link)(link)(link)(link)then you stopped posting so I couldn't shoot you down more. The last two of those you don't mention me other than just saying I'm scum. Only the "awesome link" contains any real reasoning and the others are just hyperbole. You're effectively just agreeing with me. I'm saying all you had very little argument against me and you come back with, "No, no, look, once I said 'not active enough' and these other times, I called you scum". You're telling me the self-proclaimed best scum hunter on TL bases his top scum read day one solely on "hasn't made any cases"? Please. 1) you're scum 2) i'm not the best scum hunter on tl, but I have like top 3 control 3) just because you, a scum player, find my arguments unconvincing doesn't mean they don't exist. 4) you'rescum
Oh, Oh, I can spam too, let me try.
BH, stop being so helpful.
Stop.
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BH, please stop.
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No, wait the opposite.
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Vivax the timing of my QT with GK is a function of 2 things
1) I didn't want to mason with him until I was pretty sure he was town (at this time I wasn't outed to the thread yet)
2) the hosts were drunk/afk and eventually it was like "ok come on" and they were like "mak ur own QT bro also you have large penis" and I was like "ah, thank you DrH it's kinda creepy you know I have a large penis, but that is a true fact. I will now make the QT"
also it's like super dooper obvious that everything about VE's claiming and logs is fishy. we just lynch him and all fishiness goes away.
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