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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 21 2013 04:27 GMT
#2101
BH what is your read on me?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 04:28 GMT
#2102
townish, too abrasive for your scum.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 04:28 GMT
#2103
and yes you can be abrasive as scum but there you go
Politics is the Mind-Killer
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 21 2013 04:28 GMT
#2104
On March 21 2013 13:28 Wade Fell wrote:
townish, too abrasive for your scum.


Lol are you for real? Have you not see me play scum?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 04:29 GMT
#2105
On March 21 2013 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:28 Wade Fell wrote:
townish, too abrasive for your scum.


Lol are you for real? Have you not see me play scum?


i'm for real

we've had shit-flinging competitions i know you man
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2013 04:29 GMT
#2106
On March 21 2013 13:23 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:19 Mocsta wrote:
DP

another way of looking at the vote is this

Town are looking to vote scum *always*

Scum ideally are looking fro *safe* votes..

safe is based on thread sentiment, and can imply starting, joining or hammering the bandwagon


To me, GM posts were townie, until the martyring.. the combination of lurking + martyring, gave credence to a vote on GM. Based on how shitty/leaderless Day1 was, i can understand a vote on GM.

This is simply not true. Tons of people saw his posts as scummy, including myself. The fact that your entire push for me is based on this shows that the whole thing is flawed.
Disagree..
Your Day1 filter has more posts relating to gk than GM.
you show no interest in the GM push till after the martyr.

I dont see how can you say what i said is not true. GM flipped town/blue. And my opinion was, GM was pretty fuckn town until the martyr episode.. the combination of that + lurking, to me would give me consideration to vote him given the candidates on the table.

So get off your high horse.. you saw an easy opportunity to have ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY and took it.

Show nested quote +
Kenpachi +1'd, Testsubject +1'd, Wos +1'd.

kenpachi i got no idea bout . another then i heard hes a troll

This is WoS martyr follow up vote
On March 18 2013 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
As for GM, he holds something in common with zare, in that he also brings up suspicion against me, calls me scummier than DarthPunk, doesn't back it up, and then ignores me completely. His AHA! post reeks of bad towny play (stupid gambit is stupid), but isn't Grey supposed to be a mafia veteran? That kind of 'trap' is something that zare tried to spring on the rest of the town AS a townie in NMM 37 but it only ended up muddling up the whole thread for that day and accomplishing nothing. Greymist's trap seems like an easy way to hide behind the fact that he couldn't be assed to contribute in a positive way and to jump on the first person to call him out for being gone (whether for legit reasons or not) as others have pointed out.
##Vote GreYMisT

Whilst i disagree with the conclusion..(and so did the flip) it is still a *reasonable* mindset to have on the situation.
I dont see a problem with this vote.

Contrast with TestSubject
On March 18 2013 12:52 TestSubject893 wrote:
Alright, so I finally got caught up. Here's what I've got to say.

GreYMisT seems to be doing the martyr thing we saw vivax and prome do in LX. Its a scummy play and I think its our greatest evidence against anyone right now, so I'll be voting for him.

##Vote: GreYMisT

This is a guy who doesnt give a shit.. wants to blend in.. and throws in some "sounds good at first glance" reasoning to feel all safe...

Kenpachi is low on time.. but his vote is blunt and to the point.. it shows confidence
On March 18 2013 12:07 Kenpachi wrote:
So i guess the goodkarma wagon is no more. In that case, i will vote for Greymist instead of zarepeth.


Im not getting that with TestSubject.. the vote is meek.. the vote has a flawed premise (which i believe is intentional).. and the vote comes at a time where TestSubject will not be scrutinised.

As proven by Day2 play... TestSubject loves to de-lurk when called out..

and he is playing SAFE. Mentality that is all aligned with scum play.


You think this is me playing safe? Did you see last game? You're pressuring me more in this post than everyone last game did combined, and I did it all while avoiding getting killed at night too. This is not my "safe" game play.
[By safe. i mean ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 21 2013 04:29 GMT
#2107
On March 21 2013 13:29 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:28 Wade Fell wrote:
townish, too abrasive for your scum.


Lol are you for real? Have you not see me play scum?


i'm for real

we've had shit-flinging competitions i know you man


Right well you should know that I am abrasive as scum as well.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
March 21 2013 04:32 GMT
#2108
Holy hell. Where were you to post that case a few hours ago Wiggles? Its certainly the best case I've seen yet for this lynch -> Ace has done next to nothing this game besides post a few vague suspicions and jump onto the VE lynch. The most damning evidence I've seen yet, as Wiggles points out, is the fact that Ace says "We aren't going to stop scumhunting: that would be dumb.", but does no analysis or anything else during the entire day! Voting for VE certainly cannot have been too taxing on his part, why not help the town out?
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 21 2013 04:32 GMT
#2109
On March 21 2013 13:29 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:29 Wade Fell wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:28 Wade Fell wrote:
townish, too abrasive for your scum.


Lol are you for real? Have you not see me play scum?


i'm for real

we've had shit-flinging competitions i know you man


Right well you should know that I am abrasive as scum as well.


I know but 1) you are also abrasive as town 2) the cases on you are bs

ps being town doesn't mean you're good is till have the same general opinion of you i always do
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2013 04:33 GMT
#2110
I think DP is town because of the openness in his play

I think he OMGUS me yesterday.. but on Day1.. i think the stuff on Geript was taken way out of context and there was no OMGUS

Like what pissed me off reading day1 was that most of the votes were centered about

inactivty

instead of scummy agenda.

but yeah in short.. quite a few times on dp i felt like he has communicated exactly what was on his mind, and was trying to aid town.. i actually didnt mind his VE case either.. im really surprised it gained no traction.
There are valid points in it.. and VE game is "OFF" for shizzle.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 21 2013 04:34 GMT
#2111
On March 21 2013 13:32 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:29 Wade Fell wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:28 Wade Fell wrote:
townish, too abrasive for your scum.


Lol are you for real? Have you not see me play scum?


i'm for real

we've had shit-flinging competitions i know you man


Right well you should know that I am abrasive as scum as well.


I know but 1) you are also abrasive as town 2) the cases on you are bs

ps being town doesn't mean you're good is till have the same general opinion of you i always do


I am afraid if you called me good that would mean I am actually bad. <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 21 2013 04:34 GMT
#2112
Everyone should vote for Ace. He's definitely scum. Regardless of what you think of me or my dumbass shenanigans, scum shot me last night. They shot me for a reason. And Ace is pushing for my lynch. Why? Even if he suspects that I've joined some third party cult, the fact remains that scum wanted me dead for some reason last night. And regardless of what you think of me and my shenanigans, that means something. And Ace is also vehemently pushing for my lynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 21 2013 04:34 GMT
#2113
On March 21 2013 13:32 TranceStorm wrote:
Holy hell. Where were you to post that case a few hours ago Wiggles? Its certainly the best case I've seen yet for this lynch -> Ace has done next to nothing this game besides post a few vague suspicions and jump onto the VE lynch. The most damning evidence I've seen yet, as Wiggles points out, is the fact that Ace says "We aren't going to stop scumhunting: that would be dumb.", but does no analysis or anything else during the entire day! Voting for VE certainly cannot have been too taxing on his part, why not help the town out?

This is the scummiest shit I've ever seen.
I am convinced no one in this game knows how to play town or something.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 21 2013 04:35 GMT
#2114
hey testsubject, where do you stand on this lynch? iirc you voted VE because you think he might be third-party and that we have no choice but to lynch him. Is that still true?

TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
March 21 2013 04:35 GMT
#2115
On March 21 2013 13:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:32 TranceStorm wrote:
Holy hell. Where were you to post that case a few hours ago Wiggles? Its certainly the best case I've seen yet for this lynch -> Ace has done next to nothing this game besides post a few vague suspicions and jump onto the VE lynch. The most damning evidence I've seen yet, as Wiggles points out, is the fact that Ace says "We aren't going to stop scumhunting: that would be dumb.", but does no analysis or anything else during the entire day! Voting for VE certainly cannot have been too taxing on his part, why not help the town out?

This is the scummiest shit I've ever seen.
I am convinced no one in this game knows how to play town or something.

Really? How is Ace defensible? What's wrong with Wiggles' case against him?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 21 2013 04:37 GMT
#2116
On March 21 2013 13:35 TranceStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:32 TranceStorm wrote:
Holy hell. Where were you to post that case a few hours ago Wiggles? Its certainly the best case I've seen yet for this lynch -> Ace has done next to nothing this game besides post a few vague suspicions and jump onto the VE lynch. The most damning evidence I've seen yet, as Wiggles points out, is the fact that Ace says "We aren't going to stop scumhunting: that would be dumb.", but does no analysis or anything else during the entire day! Voting for VE certainly cannot have been too taxing on his part, why not help the town out?

This is the scummiest shit I've ever seen.
I am convinced no one in this game knows how to play town or something.

Really? How is Ace defensible? What's wrong with Wiggles' case against him?

It had nothing to do with Ace being defensible or Wiggles' case, it's your shameless +1 without adding anything at all.
'HAY GUYS DIS CASE RL GOOD I SHOW U WHY' and then you literally repeat what is in Wriggle's post.

Which of you guys was it who found TS scummy again? I can't keep track of anything anymore in this thread.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
March 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#2117
On March 21 2013 13:29 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:23 TestSubject893 wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:19 Mocsta wrote:
DP

another way of looking at the vote is this

Town are looking to vote scum *always*

Scum ideally are looking fro *safe* votes..

safe is based on thread sentiment, and can imply starting, joining or hammering the bandwagon


To me, GM posts were townie, until the martyring.. the combination of lurking + martyring, gave credence to a vote on GM. Based on how shitty/leaderless Day1 was, i can understand a vote on GM.

This is simply not true. Tons of people saw his posts as scummy, including myself. The fact that your entire push for me is based on this shows that the whole thing is flawed.
Disagree..
Your Day1 filter has more posts relating to gk than GM.
you show no interest in the GM push till after the martyr.

I dont see how can you say what i said is not true. GM flipped town/blue. And my opinion was, GM was pretty fuckn town until the martyr episode.. the combination of that + lurking, to me would give me consideration to vote him given the candidates on the table.

So get off your high horse.. you saw an easy opportunity to have ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY and took it.

Show nested quote +
Kenpachi +1'd, Testsubject +1'd, Wos +1'd.

kenpachi i got no idea bout . another then i heard hes a troll

This is WoS martyr follow up vote
On March 18 2013 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
As for GM, he holds something in common with zare, in that he also brings up suspicion against me, calls me scummier than DarthPunk, doesn't back it up, and then ignores me completely. His AHA! post reeks of bad towny play (stupid gambit is stupid), but isn't Grey supposed to be a mafia veteran? That kind of 'trap' is something that zare tried to spring on the rest of the town AS a townie in NMM 37 but it only ended up muddling up the whole thread for that day and accomplishing nothing. Greymist's trap seems like an easy way to hide behind the fact that he couldn't be assed to contribute in a positive way and to jump on the first person to call him out for being gone (whether for legit reasons or not) as others have pointed out.
##Vote GreYMisT

Whilst i disagree with the conclusion..(and so did the flip) it is still a *reasonable* mindset to have on the situation.
I dont see a problem with this vote.

Contrast with TestSubject
On March 18 2013 12:52 TestSubject893 wrote:
Alright, so I finally got caught up. Here's what I've got to say.

GreYMisT seems to be doing the martyr thing we saw vivax and prome do in LX. Its a scummy play and I think its our greatest evidence against anyone right now, so I'll be voting for him.

##Vote: GreYMisT

This is a guy who doesnt give a shit.. wants to blend in.. and throws in some "sounds good at first glance" reasoning to feel all safe...

Kenpachi is low on time.. but his vote is blunt and to the point.. it shows confidence
On March 18 2013 12:07 Kenpachi wrote:
So i guess the goodkarma wagon is no more. In that case, i will vote for Greymist instead of zarepeth.


Im not getting that with TestSubject.. the vote is meek.. the vote has a flawed premise (which i believe is intentional).. and the vote comes at a time where TestSubject will not be scrutinised.

As proven by Day2 play... TestSubject loves to de-lurk when called out..

and he is playing SAFE. Mentality that is all aligned with scum play.


You think this is me playing safe? Did you see last game? You're pressuring me more in this post than everyone last game did combined, and I did it all while avoiding getting killed at night too. This is not my "safe" game play.
[By safe. i mean ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY


Guess what? "ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY" isn't very safe now is it? Here we are fighting about it. Does my play last game not show you that I understand what will get scrutiny and what won't? You're seeing what you want to see. Its clear there's no talking you off this.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
March 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#2118
On March 21 2013 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 13:35 TranceStorm wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 21 2013 13:32 TranceStorm wrote:
Holy hell. Where were you to post that case a few hours ago Wiggles? Its certainly the best case I've seen yet for this lynch -> Ace has done next to nothing this game besides post a few vague suspicions and jump onto the VE lynch. The most damning evidence I've seen yet, as Wiggles points out, is the fact that Ace says "We aren't going to stop scumhunting: that would be dumb.", but does no analysis or anything else during the entire day! Voting for VE certainly cannot have been too taxing on his part, why not help the town out?

This is the scummiest shit I've ever seen.
I am convinced no one in this game knows how to play town or something.

Really? How is Ace defensible? What's wrong with Wiggles' case against him?

It had nothing to do with Ace being defensible or Wiggles' case, it's your shameless +1 without adding anything at all.
'HAY GUYS DIS CASE RL GOOD I SHOW U WHY' and then you literally repeat what is in Wriggle's post.

Which of you guys was it who found TS scummy again? I can't keep track of anything anymore in this thread.

Because the case is really good. As a town member, my job is to pick the best person to vote for. I've seen the best case and so I vote with it. It's stupid to obstinately hold onto your beliefs at all times and not consider changes.

There is literally zero defense in this thread or anywhere for Ace. I don't understand why others aren't voting that way.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
March 21 2013 04:39 GMT
#2119
On March 21 2013 13:35 sciberbia wrote:
hey testsubject, where do you stand on this lynch? iirc you voted VE because you think he might be third-party and that we have no choice but to lynch him. Is that still true?



Yeah, I still feel that way. Part of my stance is that there is a non-zero possibility that he is mafia too.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
March 21 2013 04:41 GMT
#2120
EBWOP: Mostly, I just don't see many ways he's still town. He's either lying to us and was town, now 3rd party, or is lying to us and is/was scum.
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