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BlazinghandPerson was signed in when posted
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I'll keep it short and simple: this QT lasts until the end of the day. I think you're town, but there is a strong current of lynch against you. If you die, it happens, but the most important thing is to use your time alive as best you can. I won't be posting the logs of this QT except with your permission, or to save one of us from a lynch.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18055501

I like how you're thinking here- I like how you think in general, fearlessly and townie. I've updated my case against TPS, and I'd like to know who your top scumreads are, if TPS is among them and whether you'd be interested in collaborating with me to get him lynched. If we both share our though processes with each other, we can get better reads on each other.

Do not claim your role to me.




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I'm heading to bed and will be back in thread in ~9-10 hours.




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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Honestly, you were one of my scum reads until I read all this Messenger stuff, and after reading this QT and before reading the other ones, I thought this was highly suspect -- if you want help lynching your top scum read, why do you pick the townie with the least amount of credibility?

Right now I'm going through all the filters to group my reads and present them to the thread, to hopefully get myself some more town cred. Hopefully I'll see something about TPS that makes me agree with you and we can work it out. I'll tell you my reads before I post them up there if you want.




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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Yeah, I'm just not seeing TPS as scum. He's too assertive and active. There are plenty of other people who look way more suspect, like TestSubject, layabout, Mr. Wiggles, and Trance.




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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Are you following the thread at all? They're pulling a quote from your logs that makes it look like the first line wasn't written in the Messenger QT. How did that happen?




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DrH was being a slow piece of crap and not setting up the QT between me and GK very quickly. He PMed me and told me to set it up myself and send him the link. I did so, but I he didn't reply (and neither did Oats) and GK didn't post in the thread, so I wrote up a post and stepped out. Later, DrH PMed the link to GK and we used the QT I set up.




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Also zare you don't seem to get the idea behind this QT. I'm probably one of the best scumhunters on TL. Although if I agree on reads I would appreciate your help, the purpose of this QT is to see what your thought process is like, and to get better insight into what you think. You are not my top town-read, you are just a townread I have that a lot of people think are scum. Since I'm already outed to the thread, it makes the most sense to mason you and try to learn more about your thought process.




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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Yeah, no problem. I'm down with talking more except you were busy at the same time that I was free, so we couldn't really discuss things.

I'm open to talk more later but nwo I have to go do some stuff. Ask me any private Q's you want in the meantime if you want.




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On March 20 2013 10:33 Coagulation wrote:
the butt hurt in this thread is getting thick. I can hardly walk in it. assholes and elbows deep in butt hurt


rofl




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so that slip from TPS about coag's alignment imo seals it for me. his last post or so has been more reasonable, but there's no good explanation for that slip other than "TPS is scum and knows coag is town". I'll be continuing to push him. I'm pretty sure I can convince people at this point




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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Honestly, I think even if you're onto something, nobody will listen to you because it looks like you are tunneling him and you've been fairly abrasive with VE and TPS.

I think it would go a long way if you were to list some other people you also thought to be scum, and mentioned why, and then explained why your scum read on TPS is still the best read.




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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I like the case on WoS a lot right now. His slip is pretty similar to TPS's slip, actually. I wonder if there's something there.




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looks like TPS has claimed cop with a blue check on WoS, which means we aren't lynching either of them today. VE seems to have claimed 3p so it's highly clear what we shoudl be doing here.




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er, vice-versa: WoS has claimed cop with a blue check on TPS

so no need to lynch WoS, he'll be shot tonight anyways. TPS probably also. It's only a problem if they live for a few days.




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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Yeah. So this third party stuff seems really sloppy on VE's end - I mean, why post the logs revealing that you are a traitor? It seems pretty stupid to me. I'm honestly not going to spend much more time worrying about VE until the night actions go crazy tonight. Scum feel no pressure if we just agree to lynch VE.




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The best solution imo is to vote for VE and aggressively FoS someone else with a big case. The fact that someone has claimed scum doesn't mean we stop the hunt




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zarepathPerson was signed in when posted
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I guess... honestly I just wish he hadn't switched. Lynching third party players just seem like a waste of a lynch to me. Mafia has 2 KP; we need to get rid of them first, imo.

Either way, I think most of town has now moved on to looking at other players, so as long as we're discussing potential scum, I suppose that's okay.




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now VE is like straight up making shit up




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So I am liking a testsubject lynch for tmr. He's been straight-up lurking to avoid confrontation, and now this OMGUS. I'm going to push him through the night in case I get shot. Is your read on him still null-scum, or have you updated it?




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glurio has definitely been actively lurking. He's posting a bit but mostly to sheep the town opinion (especially with the WoS situation). The fact that he's starting to weigh in and take sides now, after the claiming-dust has settled, imo is scummy. That being said, I'm not interested in lynching him at this moment, because my other scumreads are much more sure. Last night you noted a townread on glurio because of his willingness to check metas and defending you, but simply defending you shouldn't be the only basis for a twonread, and meta is pretty easy for scum to fake. Have you updated your read on him given his activity today or is it still the same?




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I've gone from feeling sure to feeling iffy on Vivax-- although I initially found him quite scummy, I now agree with what you said last night about him: he puts too much effort into way-too-shitty cases to be anything but a confused townie. Especially that thing "analysing" my timestamps from my logs. if he were scum he'd know there was nothing to find, but if he were town he'd be confused by the timestamps and think I fabricated them if he misread the timezones. Was he wrong and bone-headed? yeah, sure. But the _way_ he was wrong, and his mindset that's revealed, show him to be town. Is your read consistent with that?




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I will admit, also, that I feel a small amount of doubt on the VE lynch. Nothing I'd reveal in thread of course, but the point is, VE is at this point unreadable/compromised on everything. I have no idea what he's thinking or doing, or how his logic functions. Nothing he's done has made sense, and these upcoming "megacases" dont' have meaning. We have to flip him at this point if we want to know if anything he's ever said was true. so that doubt is meaningless but still :/




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To clarify, I'm not saying "lynch VE regardless of alignment" but rather that he is surrounded by doubt and non-ransparency. The only way this could come about is that he is scum. The mindset just doesnt match up.





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Hey man this is kind of a critical time, it would be good to have someone to bounce ideas off of, or for you to at least let me know what you're thinking. I still stand by my initial meta read of GK, but he's under a lot of pressure. I don't think he's gonna get lynched, at least, but I have doubts now anyways. bleh