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On March 18 2013 14:46 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 14:45 FiveTouch wrote:On March 18 2013 14:43 TLCastingGolems wrote: They both very well could still be. Prom still looks scummy for not even attempting to defend himself at this point and is still content to decide that his one contribution to the game 'nailing VE' is enough and now he can sit back and relax and anyone who decides that this isn't good enough can go fuck themselves.
Moology looking real hard for a way to pin this on either myself or Prom. "Nailing VE" is quite a big deal, though. Not if it's a double-bus, which is the whole reason there is even suspicion on Prom in the first place.
why would you bus your partner when he's under no pressure from anyone else whatsoever?
everyone else was giving him townreads at the time, go back and look at how night 1 unfolded.
~marv
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On March 18 2013 08:34 FiveTouch wrote: my case too good. yo.
i feel this game should be at least partially solveable given what we know and stuff. I'll actually read the thread and get back to you guys once i've thought about it and talked to kei.
The jailkeeper claim is really really dodgy.
Replying to myself to ensure intelligent conversation :D
In all seriousness, while I don't like the JK claim, it seems an extraordinarily risky play for mafia to make, especially in a small setup where being counterclaimed means doom.
~marv
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I have no idea what that shit from Moology was supposed to be.
Marv, you find it ok to consider that we're scum and faking the JK claim even though its incredibly risky yet you don't want to believe that the mafia are performing another incredibly risky play in double-bus?
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On March 18 2013 22:56 TLCastingGolems wrote: I have no idea what that shit from Moology was supposed to be.
Marv, you find it ok to consider that we're scum and faking the JK claim even though its incredibly risky yet you don't want to believe that the mafia are performing another incredibly risky play in double-bus?
You misunderstand my last post; it was saying that I find it very unlikely for you to be mafia fakeclaiming for the reasons I said.
Bussing your only partner in a 2-scum game when they're under no pressure - I've never seen this before and I have no reason to believe it is the case.
~marv
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Well then think about it from our perspective if we're town. If you're assuming that you Parn and Newbie are all confirmed town, then what does that leave us with? Are you absolutely certain that Moology is scum?
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On March 18 2013 23:04 TLCastingGolems wrote: Well then think about it from our perspective if we're town. If you're assuming that you Parn and Newbie are all confirmed town, then what does that leave us with? Are you absolutely certain that Moology is scum?
I've not (re)read anything yet, but it seems likely. Kei and I caught up briefly last night and he said while he was worried about Newbie's activity, Hapa was still feeling town for him.
I plan to look at the evolution of Moology's OE read this evening; I think my meta metric for deciding whether Mocsta is mafia (argumentative to a tee) is out of date as he matures his game.
~marv
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On March 18 2013 23:06 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 23:04 TLCastingGolems wrote: Well then think about it from our perspective if we're town. If you're assuming that you Parn and Newbie are all confirmed town, then what does that leave us with? Are you absolutely certain that Moology is scum? I've not (re)read anything yet, but it seems likely. Kei and I caught up briefly last night and he said while he was worried about Newbie's activity, Hapa was still feeling town for him. I plan to look at the evolution of Moology's OE read this evening; I think my meta metric for deciding whether Mocsta is mafia (argumentative to a tee) is out of date as he matures his game. ~marv
Did you read the start? Or not?
+ Show Spoiler +gonna quote for filter whenever I want to
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On March 18 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 23:06 FiveTouch wrote:On March 18 2013 23:04 TLCastingGolems wrote: Well then think about it from our perspective if we're town. If you're assuming that you Parn and Newbie are all confirmed town, then what does that leave us with? Are you absolutely certain that Moology is scum? I've not (re)read anything yet, but it seems likely. Kei and I caught up briefly last night and he said while he was worried about Newbie's activity, Hapa was still feeling town for him. I plan to look at the evolution of Moology's OE read this evening; I think my meta metric for deciding whether Mocsta is mafia (argumentative to a tee) is out of date as he matures his game. ~marv Did you read the start? Or not? + Show Spoiler +gonna quote for filter whenever I want to
I've still not really read Day 2, but I've read everything else. I'm actually filtering Moology at the moment because I'm impatient and I want to know what I think. I'll probably also look at newbie_QT as well.
~marv
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On March 18 2013 23:25 Moology wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 23:06 FiveTouch wrote: I plan to look at the evolution of Moology's OE read this evening; I think my meta metric for deciding whether Mocsta is mafia (argumentative to a tee) is out of date as he matures his game. ~marv Hopefully like a fine wine, instead of a silicon implant Omni has a present for you later on.. i dont want to spoil it.. fact was.. we were saving this present for tomorrow as i didnt think it was necessary.. but.. omni in his newbie wisdom wanted to unleash total pwnage tonight.. guessing cos he sick of infested terrans fuming around in his house. hint: Neutral Surviving Balrog is the theme. P.S. as I keep telling everyone.. my activity isnt determined by alignment. Im just busy with work and HotS, + last mafia game burnt me out; 26 page filter for a loss to bartender this is my last game for a few weeks Lets give thrawn that final win. GO TOWN!!
The sooner the better, I don't like basing my reads on incomplete information when the information can simply be given to me.
~marv
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On March 18 2013 23:27 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 23:25 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 23:06 FiveTouch wrote: I plan to look at the evolution of Moology's OE read this evening; I think my meta metric for deciding whether Mocsta is mafia (argumentative to a tee) is out of date as he matures his game. ~marv Hopefully like a fine wine, instead of a silicon implant Omni has a present for you later on.. i dont want to spoil it.. fact was.. we were saving this present for tomorrow as i didnt think it was necessary.. but.. omni in his newbie wisdom wanted to unleash total pwnage tonight.. guessing cos he sick of infested terrans fuming around in his house. hint: Neutral Surviving Balrog is the theme. P.S. as I keep telling everyone.. my activity isnt determined by alignment. Im just busy with work and HotS, + last mafia game burnt me out; 26 page filter for a loss to bartender this is my last game for a few weeks Lets give thrawn that final win. GO TOWN!! The sooner the better, I don't like basing my reads on incomplete information when the information can simply be given to me. ~marv Well im 100% against it.. frankly I think it would come together much more Day 3.. but whatevs
i cant force Omni to not post; he basically said he gonna post it when im asleep lol so i dont rage at him in the QT
(moc)
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want to give us a hint to what it is?
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On March 18 2013 23:30 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: want to give us a hint to what it is? Sure
On March 18 2013 23:25 Moology wrote: hint: Neutral Surviving Balrog is the theme.
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Hint: moo being scum is the theme.
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On March 18 2013 23:28 Moology wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 23:27 FiveTouch wrote:On March 18 2013 23:25 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 23:06 FiveTouch wrote: I plan to look at the evolution of Moology's OE read this evening; I think my meta metric for deciding whether Mocsta is mafia (argumentative to a tee) is out of date as he matures his game. ~marv Hopefully like a fine wine, instead of a silicon implant Omni has a present for you later on.. i dont want to spoil it.. fact was.. we were saving this present for tomorrow as i didnt think it was necessary.. but.. omni in his newbie wisdom wanted to unleash total pwnage tonight.. guessing cos he sick of infested terrans fuming around in his house. hint: Neutral Surviving Balrog is the theme. P.S. as I keep telling everyone.. my activity isnt determined by alignment. Im just busy with work and HotS, + last mafia game burnt me out; 26 page filter for a loss to bartender this is my last game for a few weeks Lets give thrawn that final win. GO TOWN!! The sooner the better, I don't like basing my reads on incomplete information when the information can simply be given to me. ~marv Well im 100% against it.. frankly I think it would come together much more Day 3.. but whatevs i cant force Omni to not post; he basically said he gonna post it when im asleep lol so i dont rage at him in the QT (moc)
Given there's a decent chance I'll be dead by tomorrow, I'd like to be given the chance to process any information in this night phase.
I know you've kinda talked about it before but I'd like you to talk about the evolution of your OE read. At the end of Night 1 he wasn't even in your top 4 in terms of interest, and yet as soon as Day started you sheeped me immediately on to him. Promato and Dirk were your top reads, and yet all of a sudden you were siding with Promato against OE. Why?
~marv
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I told you you were either scum or blue.
Mocsta, are you playing based on dramatic plays, or to win the game.
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I also just got to this post in your filter.
On March 18 2013 09:41 Moology wrote: Right because in a 9 player game, Moology are one of the first to hard bus VE?
Being the first vote, gives the option to walk away.
Our vote essentially sealed the vote of SCUM... now you want to twist that as a scum move.. LOL.. nice try Prome
This is a terrible post. I (with Kei's help of course) made a detailed and excellent case against OE, so barring something quite amazing from someone else, OE was getting lynched. It didn't need your vote in the slightest.
~marv
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On March 16 2013 08:54 Moology wrote: What the fuck...
##Vote: ObliviousEyes
With Dirk's death that really puts me off on calling Newbie scum. He should know that once Dirk is gone he's next in a lot of peoples minds. It doesn't make sense. OE looks like a good candidate and I'm starting to really want to hear from Golems again. marv why would he give up on suspicion of us here though. Seems weird for a scum to do
iamp
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On March 18 2013 23:34 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 08:54 Moology wrote: What the fuck...
##Vote: ObliviousEyes
With Dirk's death that really puts me off on calling Newbie scum. He should know that once Dirk is gone he's next in a lot of peoples minds. It doesn't make sense. OE looks like a good candidate and I'm starting to really want to hear from Golems again. marv why would he give up on suspicion of us here though. Seems weird for a scum to do iamp
The suspicion was dropped for a terrible reason, and as per my last post, it takes a massive act of will from anybody to resist a beautiful marv-case.
I mean I've honestly not read Day 2 yet, but was there ever even a chance OE wasn't getting lynched? Mafia gotta bus that shit as soon as possible.
~marv
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marv stop stealing my credit. (Yam's credit) I'm still putting him up for most improved player. You said one game wasn't enough ? How about three? He rocked scum in nomination, in duel and now here.
Yam was the first to post the case on VE and even when we aren't posting much we were going to get that lynch through. We're both loud enough when we need to be to lynch whomever needs to be lynched. Don't pretend like his fate was anything but sealed since our case on him.
Its cute how moo wants the credit too though, its so sweet how he wants to grow up to be me.
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