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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
183 Posts
On March 18 2013 14:30 TLCastingGolems wrote: He's looking for an out, and it's up to you and the two other 'confirmed townies' if you want to give it to him tomorrow. You all know what my plan is for tonight. Prome not scum anymore? | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
On March 18 2013 14:24 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: Sooo... what exactly is your stance on Casters now? My current stance from process of elimination is that scum is sitting with (Promato/Casters) Without the role PM debacle, I was heavily favoured towards Promato. With this new item of information, it has skewed towards 50/50. I need to do a detailed re-read when i get home and will post our thoughts before the night ends. (moc) | ||
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TLCastingGolems
160 Posts
Prom still looks scummy for not even attempting to defend himself at this point and is still content to decide that his one contribution to the game 'nailing VE' is enough and now he can sit back and relax and anyone who decides that this isn't good enough can go fuck themselves. Moology looking real hard for a way to pin this on either myself or Prom. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On March 18 2013 14:43 TLCastingGolems wrote: They both very well could still be. Prom still looks scummy for not even attempting to defend himself at this point and is still content to decide that his one contribution to the game 'nailing VE' is enough and now he can sit back and relax and anyone who decides that this isn't good enough can go fuck themselves. Moology looking real hard for a way to pin this on either myself or Prom. "Nailing VE" is quite a big deal, though. | ||
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TLCastingGolems
160 Posts
Not if it's a double-bus, which is the whole reason there is even suspicion on Prom in the first place. | ||
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TLCastingGolems
160 Posts
If there is a scum RB along with our RB, is there a way for them to prevent our RB and kill us? I don't know if I understand how the resolution of night roles works. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On March 18 2013 14:47 TLCastingGolems wrote: I'm still not sure I understand how this is solved exactly though. If there is a scum RB along with our RB, is there a way for them to prevent our RB and kill us? I don't know if I understand how the resolution of night roles works. It really depends on how the hosts handle roleblocks. Different hosts handle them in different ways. But you're right, there are some ways that the game isn't virtually solved if roleblocks are handled in certain ways. | ||
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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
183 Posts
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
On March 18 2013 14:31 FiveTouch wrote: Thats the tell for me. I played liek 3 or 4 VE games in a row. I pegged him successfully in Nomination not for a specific quote in his filter, but because of a vibe I get from him as scum. I was getting the same vibe from him in this game.. As town VE is confident to be 'wrong" and probably discusses his ideas TOO MUCH... as scum, that confidence/openess in his play doesnt exist. When I wrote im not seeing the activity, that was what I was referring to. So i dont think it was a "meh" comment; its just one that wasnt grossly detailed.So, Moology. I want you to walk me through your sudden scum read of VE. I'm looking back through your filter, and you didn't mention VE even once until your "last will" post, and then it was just a "meh, he's not being very active". But the Dirk flip suddenly painted a big read target onto VE for you. Why exactly? You said that a newbie wouldn't have killed Dirk, so it was probably one of the more "vet'ish" players. So, why not me/marv, whom you had actually been suspcious throughout the day? Hell, looking back, I don't even see any reason that you dropped the suspicion of us. The only thing I can think of is that thread sentiment started painting us as town, so you quit pursuing your suspicions. I can tell you I have no clue why Dirk was shot; but i dont know where i said newbies wouldnt shoot him? I said if the teams were not true RNG'd, its unlikely for a newbie team to be paired with VE/newbie and have 3 supervets in the game + a couple highly experienced players.My read on you changed as I read your posts. Nothing to do with thread sentiment. Most of the convos happening in this game are when I am not around. Im not going to make a random post that I have a town read on FT. Openly town play, is openly town play. But, there's still Hapa too. Why wouldn't Hapa/iamp have made that kill? They've both been around TL for 8-9 months and are quite familiar with Palmar/bugs. Or hell, even Soniv (who, while IMO is not the best player around, he's still been around for a very long time and should know the reputations of bugs/palmar/marv/ve etc)? Fuck knows. I can say with all honesty; I got no idea the context for that NK.. I even said i didnt get why a scum VE would shoot hardpec, who was his sole target? Once VE stopped posting, it was clear he was scum; but that decision still doesnt make sense to me.Basically, you're reasoning is bad because there aren't really very many "newbies" in this game. Your team is by far the newest players, and maybe Thrawn/Oats being second. But even thrawn has been around in a while. I dunno what you classify as a newbie; but OmniEulogy still plays in the Newbie league. So explain why that single event suddenly made VE 100% scum instead of anyone else? Its in the filter. OE detailed it in my opinion, explicitly. What do you want a walk through over?(moc) | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
On March 18 2013 14:43 TLCastingGolems wrote: Moology looking real hard for a way to pin this on either myself or Prom. Wrong.. Looking real hard to logically determine the truth. As I said, when I get home and do a re-read will post updated thoughts. (moc) | ||
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Promato
92 Posts
That's all I have to say about this game Wagon of justice, gogogogogogo. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
I'm not talking about what you said recently. I'm talking specifically about what you were saying around the end of night 1/ start of day 2. The only thing that took VE from a very weak "I'm only throwing him in here because he hasn't been very active" read in your Last Will post, to being sure he was scum was "the Dirk NK doesn't make sense fr anyone but VE". Those are exact thoughts from your filter, and I just don't see that making sense. Also, it is very specifically in your filter that you didn't think the dirk NK could have come from Hapa. | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
On March 18 2013 15:08 Promato wrote: Moo is mafia That's all I have to say about this game Wagon of justice, gogogogogogo. Yeah, and thats precisely why VE in his filter of 3 pages; was pretty much the only team to join ya plan of outting blue roles. That interaction there pretty much says it all. Keeping trying to manipulate the situation though; its actually giving me some motivation to play this game instead of laddering. I love pegging yamato scum (cos i already pegged prome scum no worries) | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
On March 18 2013 15:14 FiveTouch wrote: @moology: I'm not talking about what you said recently. I'm talking specifically about what you were saying around the end of night 1/ start of day 2. The only thing that took VE from a very weak "I'm only throwing him in here because he hasn't been very active" read in your Last Will post, to being sure he was scum was "the Dirk NK doesn't make sense fr anyone but VE". Those are exact thoughts from your filter, and I just don't see that making sense. Also, it is very specifically in your filter that you didn't think the dirk NK could have come from Hapa. Did a filter read: those comments are all from Omni. I thought what he wrote was pretty explicit. Im heading to a meeting anyways, so best thing with those series of posts would be to query Omni directly. (moc) | ||
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Promato
92 Posts
On March 15 2013 18:51 Moology wrote: Now (Essentially a last will) My concerns are currently with the following teams (1) Golems - They seem to have listened to feedback. I want to see a bit more from them before deciding which side of null they are going. But it is a positive from less experienced players to take criticisms on board. (2) Newbie - They are Jeckyl/Hyde so far. I think they need to be scrutinsed Day2, to get some consistency between the two haeds. Right now the lack of consistency makes them essentially unreadable (i.e. a very confused read) sitting at very slightly leaning town. (3) Promato - Im just scared of lurkers in general after the loss in Mafia LX. These guys have given reasons for the low activity so I expect HIGH QUALITY with small doses. Not getting that so far; they are my sleeper pick for scum. Yams recent list post was... *meh* bunch of wishy-washy reads. Which is fine and all - considering the lack of activity; but why bother to post it? Like i said, if you want to post less fine; but the quality needs to be there. (4) Hardpec - I am in agreement with Omni here. And I dont care Oats that you disagree. If hes not a strong town read, dont step in. And certainly @ night, do not expect a case. Hardpec + Promato are my current picks to follow through with on Day2 (4 1/2) VE - I am throwing him in purely because hes not as active as I have come to expect from recent town VE + Normally he uimms/ahhs a fuck ton before lynch - and we not getting that this game. ============== This is probably going to be my last post for the cycle. Going out tonight, and deadline is 7am on a Saturday => i will miss it. (moc)  Shall we talk about this quote? It makes Moo scum. There, I've talked about it. | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
First off I'd like to say that you guys are right and this game does end in 24 hours. BUT IT DOESN'T END THE WAY THE REST OF YOU THINK! LOL I'd just like to thank Mocsta out in the open for listening to my request in our QT <3. Reading through this has made it all worth while. You guys need to chill when the game is won and we've still got 24 hours. Well... like.. 16 now. I'm gonna go back to sleep. I'll make one more post before the end of this cycle and then we can all win together. | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On March 18 2013 14:56 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote: What proc's first in night-action resolution? Scum RB or Jailkeeper RB? Or do they proc at the same time? JK RB takes priority if they target each other. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On March 18 2013 12:13 Promethelax wrote: I'm sorry that catching scum was the only thing we contributed. I'll try to do better in the future. + Show Spoiler + Go fuck yourself Thrawn, I'm better than you. My partner is better than your partner. We caught scum. You are lucky I'm good at reading you because your play here is so bad I want to call you scum. Pretty sure you aren't though. P wtf? | ||
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Moology
Italy144 Posts
its time to claim, Omni and myself decided this is the best course of action to ensure a town victory. ====================== + Show Spoiler [Role] + ====================== | ||
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