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slOosh
3291 Posts
You guys also seem keenly aware of my weak scum meta. Well then take advantage of it. Talk to me - either I'm town and I provide good insight as "very good town slOosh" or I'm scum and I expose my weakness and frailty as "noob sauce scum slOosh". I don't have the spread of time that I used to have, and instead have blocks, so I can't play as I usually do. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
I'm going to start with the wishy washy (my thoughts that is, not how they've played necessarily) middle. risk, prplhz, BC, Stutters, slOosh, Mocsta, Ver (ugh), Acrofales, supersoft. ok quick rundown. I like risk when he's around, it feels like town risk. But he's not around enough, and that's more mafia risk. prplhz. super lurky, although a decent case on BC. Some posts feel like town prplhz, but the lurkiness, oh the lurkiness. I'm banking on his weird anger towards me being genuine, but i'm not sure. BC. Weird roleplaying thing that he's trying to excuse how he's playing. I don't like it. I don't like how he said I outright lied about him, when it clearly wasn't the case, as per what VE and I wrote. I'm pretty clearly town to most people reading the thread properly, BC has a brain, so I should be pretty clearly town to him too. Instead he's baselessly attacking me. Not good. But I don't think he should be a focus tomorrow. Stutters - super lurky and bad, called out, did some stuff, disappeared. Don't know what to make of him. his contributions seemed ok when he stopped RPing. bleh. slOosh. absent. bad. maybe his push on yamato is genuine. maybe his role thing up there is genuine. wait and see. could well be mafia, but could still be town. Mocsta. Snipey and unhelpful, but isn't shitting up the thread. don't know where i stand with him. Ver. Really absent. Maybe he should be in somewhat scummy. I just don't know. confuses the fuck out of me. Acrofales. wasn't sure what he has been trying to achieve so far this game. but reads post that he just made looks decent at first glance. i expect him to be stepping it up and helping day 2 if he's town. supersoft, not getting mafia vibes. but really, really unproductive, which is unlike supersoft. bleh. [u]People I'm town on to varying degrees Hiro. Too lurky I guess, but his posts feel genuine when he makes them. I'm not sure, but I'm kinda leaning town here. I don't see why he should be a focus tomorrow at all. VE. Has backed me up, whether on purpose or not, on several occasions. So he's seeing the game the way i am. I hope to god he's town. I think he's town, no reason at all not to at this stage. Dandel. His play really does feel nothing like British II that he just came out of as mafia. He's more helpful and productive, even if still trolly, but he'll always be that way. I liked his catch on Acro's sheeping at the end of day 1, which may or may not mean anything. austin. seems to be thinking about the game and caring about the game, engaging people in conversation. I have no real reason to think austin is mafia at this point. Oatsmaster. Suspicious of a lot of people, that's how he plays town. He is always all over the place, he asks stupid questions, and apparently contradicts himself quite a bit. this doesn't make him mafia. Oats plays SCARED as mafia. Posts like these are not scared: On March 13 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Going to sleep, Ill be up at deadline to see what else you monkeys post. strongandbig - I think he's probably town. I know recently he's had a massive motivation problem with mafia in general, and I think if he rolled mafia this game he'd just have completely given up. Lurkier than I like but is actually providing some contributions and points when he's around. iamp - posting less than I like, but some posts give me a warm and fuzzy vibe. don't see a reason to look at him right now. especially as he made me a giggle. good towntell ;D Promethelax - despite posting in limericks, seems to have a clear plan and idea to his play. he was all over the shop as mafia in LX, his limerick posts actually make more sense than his awful posts here. MAYBE he's hiding behind it? but i don't think so right now. yamato - his posting today makes me feel better about him. i still think he's town, i'm not certain, but I don't want to lynch him right now either. More interesting things [b]Vivax! Not actually certain Vivax is mafia at all. Here's the thing about Vivax. He's absolutely batshit insane. This is usually a pretty solid town tell for Vivax. However there are a few specific things that make me worry about using this broadbrush read. 1) a really weird slight town read on Crossfire 2) calling Foolishness town and attacking me, despite having not read either filter and missing TWO things in Foolishness' under one page filter 3) asking me to ragequit like in LVIII. He knows I was town there, and he also probably knows that I only genuinely really rage when I'm town. I don't like this at all. So Vivax, I don't know. Crossfire Nothing in his filter says town. At all. The reason we didn't lynch him is because he conveninently showed up as the votes were piling on him, and was like "oh lol is it deadline lol daylights saving time" and it seemed kinda genuine. What the fuck has he done with this reprieve? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Looks like mafia. Corazon I think he's mafia. I'm running out of time so I can't quote posts, but his push on yamato feels really forced. If I'm dead, go read back through his filter. Look at how he talks about his push on yamato. It continuously reads that he's going to keep pushing yamato until he doesn't have to anymore. He refuses to do anything else, but he basically says "yeah I'm just going to tunnel yamato". He's not active or engaged with anything else. When yamato was in the thread earlier talking with austin, corazon came back to the thread to tunnel yamato some more, and disappeared, deciding not to take the time to make conversation with his main scumread. Looks like mafia. Foolishness Apparently he's short of time because he's doing jack shit. He got caught in a lie by saying that he always finds me scummy, even though that's impossible, everything he said about that, our games together, my smurf game, has been disproved. He's kinda around but not doing anything. I'm quoting this post for length On March 11 2013 13:14 Foolishness wrote: And it is so on this brightest of white days that I stroll into Personality Town. I clutch the assignment paper in my pocket as I walk into the main parts of the town. The paper that was handed to me not moments ago from the gate guard Greymist. Though I had arrived late to the town, I had already knew exactly where I was proceeding to; a destination known, but not known for I had only just arrived and getting my bearings down would take some effort. But on the right side of the street I came across a wonderful grove; full of vibrant trees that radiated through the yard. I stopped for a moment to take in the scene. I was not the only one so moved by the scenery, as many people buzzed through their way through the many trees. Not a minute had passed before a fine gentleman approached the grove as well. Though I gave him no inclination to, he stood beside me and struck up conversation. "They are cherry pickers you see," he said, pointing at the people wandering in and out of the grove. "Cherry pickers?" I asked. "Yes," BloodyC0bbler replied. "But they only pick cherries. Ask them to pick from the apple trees, and you will be met with resistance." "That must make it difficult to accomplish anything." "Aye. You best be moving on. If you stare too long you too will succumb to the ripe taste of the cherry. And then we will have lost another soul." "But what about you?" I questioned him. "I am the shepherd of these people. It is my job to lead them down the path of the scumhunt; to steer them away from the cherry trees. They are my responsibility." Without another word I departed the poor man and made my way down the street. And I wondered about the shepherd as I walked. Surely his cause is noble, but is that all there is too it? For a few minutes I pondered this question as I walked, until I came across a man sitting on a bench. "Excuse me," I asked the man, "could you tell me where I can find the house of Vivax?" "Ahhh, the house of Vivax you say? Well I could not know where anything is in this town. You see I am blind, and I have not interest where anything is in this town during my stay," Ver replied. "Blind?!?!" I was shocked at this finding. "But how can you possibly hope to accomplish anything?" "Oh ho ho sir! You only think to see with your eyes. But you have other senses with which you can see. You must learn to use all your senses in this town, not just what you see with your eyes. And then you will see! You will see that there is much to learn from your other sense. Why I have learned so much in this short time without my eyes. Sometimes, your eyes bias your mind, and you see things that are not really there. You only see them because your mind wants to. I do not have such issues. And thus, what I see is truly......pure." Truly pure. I was at a loss for words from his short speech. What could I say to that? I gave a quick goodbye and went on my way, pondering his vision about seeing; seeing what is right in front of you, seeing without your eyes. Was I seeing things that weren't really there? Was I just seeing them because my mind wanted to see them? I ducked into a coffee shop and parked myself at a table. I looked back through notes of the case. Except this time, I did not read with my eyes, but I read with my mind. And I saw something different this time. I saw what couldn't be seen with my eyes. I saw exactly what I needed to see. It was beyond what I saw the first time, the first time with my eyes. I saw a depth that was previously not there. I saw all the motivation (or lack of it), all of the ineptitude, all through a hidden agenda. It was...pure. With the knowledge of my mind lingering in my head, I packed up my things and continued on my way; destination in hand, more determined than ever. ##Vote: Vivax He had the time to make a post like this, but not do anything more than skim the thread for a read he'd later recant? Why not spend that fucking time writing the post doing something useful? This fucking REEKS of mafia making some kinda post to make it look like they're doing something. But he wasn't. I've run out of time. This will have to do. [/b] | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Luckily though, through the magic of townie play, you're all aware of both whom I find suspicious AND why, so a will post isn't even necessary EVEN IF I die! KALLOH KALLAY! To answer the question I posed, I'm confident that yes, there are scum inside of Yamato, Crossfire and Vivax. I think yamato is townie - the other two just flip a coin and lynch one. That's my opinion. You guys need to force BC/Foolish/Ver to contribute more than they have been. All of them, BC included, are guilty of calling people scum with little reasoning. It's not enough that they have an opinion - they have to explain their opinion so everyone can understand in order for it to be effective - and they're ALL capable. marv is carrying this game for town, and if he's scum you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Acro looking better now though. Mocsta is (?) because I now know he's capable of stellar scum play so he's on my "watch carefully" list. Everything SEEMS to be in order so far, but be ever vigilant. | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
Vivax and Foolishness should be fixin' to get lynched cause they be no 'count varmints. I reckon too much been said 'bout them already, so I ain't gonna add anything to that. Someone that y'all should be hankerin' to lynch should be Cora. + Show Spoiler [Cora] + On March 11 2013 23:08 marvellosity wrote: Yes, of course. Whether explained away as a 'joke' or not, this feels forced. Then I don't like at all his attitude towards Oats: Sounds like Corazon agrees a lot with the case, so Oats is probably mafia. Kinda fine I guess. But... Kinda everything in here is a misrepresentation. To the first bolded bit - our attitude was not the same in any way. I said the case probably made valid points but I still thought Oats was town. As per the previous Corazon quoted, this isn't what's coming across at all, it reads like he really finds Oats scummy. His equating of what I said with what he said is just totally false. As you can see from the nested quote, I asked him how Oats' play differed from the last game we all just played together. Second bolded bit is him sidestepping the question entirely and saying it's not about meta. But he can't tell me WHY s&b's case has valid points, or HOW Oats' play is different this game. This is particularly interesting as most of Corazon's early thrust on yamato *was* meta based. Dichotomy... The bit in red Vivax picked up on as well. It seems to indicate a concern for how he appears, for how he is viewed by others. Who cares if something is a 'glaring scumtell' if it's what you think and want to do? Do you refuse to vote for someone because you're scared of how you're perceived? Not at all. Why is agreeing or using other people's arguments a scumtell? Stuff like this, there's more of it, is irrationally angry, and he keeps attacking Mocsta rather than any of the arguments. I'd really like to know where Corazon stands on yamato after the revelation of how his role mechanics supposedly work. On March 13 2013 01:57 marvellosity wrote: Acro your best point you hid in the spoiler! This from a player who I distinctly recall saying all meta cases are terrible in Duel mafia I'd completely forgotten this. Witness: This game, witness (spoilered for length) + Show Spoiler + On March 10 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote: The position I'm talking about is when you basically accused me of having no scum reads 3 hours into Duel Mafia and basically told me that I needed to have 100% scum reads 3 hours into the game or I am scum. I know a general feeling of how you play. You're aggressive as town. You don't give a fuck if you die or not, as long as your top scumread dies with you: The fact that you have decided to back way down from posts like this and play more passive is a bit suspicious. However, I'm going to assume the personality of whoever you are is influencing your play right now. I'll take a look later to see what kind of Yamato (or whoever you are) is going to come into town. Meta! On March 10 2013 15:36 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato's already playing way too far away from his town meta for me to be comfortable. Meta! On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote: No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is. So Yamato, let me get this straight: You called me out in Duel Mafia for not having scum reads AND You're calling me out now for having a scumread. Please bow down to your King and tell me what I am missing. Meta! Marvellosity, Dandel Ion, VisceraEyes, Promethelax, and Yamato77: These people sho 'nuff are fit as a fiddle and snug as a bug, and all y'all should be particular 'bout their health. If I do bite the bullet, hear tell a storm is coming. I'mma off to hit the hay now. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
All monkeys. Vivax is being dumbass town IMO. Foolishness may be scum. Austin posting a whole lot of nothing but is town I think. Dandel lon is suspiciously inactive. Iamp is also not the shining beacon of townieness. Roleplaying only goes so far. Iamp. I will pressure Iamp next cycle. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Day Two Sandroba is protecting syllogism. A Magic Marker has been invented VisceraEyes as prplhz has been killed. You are prplhz! After being lynched 12 times, we've decided to give you a little help! Once per cycle, during the day you may submit one of the following one-shot abilities: 1) Loose Noose: Three votes will be subtracted from your final vote count. 2) Extend Cycle: You may extend the lynch deadline by 2 hours. 3) Unlimited votes: empowered by the spirit of prplhz in steamship mafia, you may now vote for as many targets as you please. You win with town. + Show Spoiler + On November 15 2011 17:36 prplhz wrote: Town shouldn't let itself get sidetracked if player A decides that they want to tunnel player B, look at what is happening. Don't just say "lole~(tm) u r tunnl means u r scum". If you want to lynch either a lurker or a liar you ALWAYS need to post analysis of why they are scummy too. On November 16 2011 18:23 prplhz wrote: Yea I like Kenpachi as a lynch too ##Vote Kenpachi On November 16 2011 23:52 prplhz wrote: I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR DRAZERK BECAUSE HE IS SCUM ##Vote Drazerk On November 17 2011 00:12 prplhz wrote: NO CASE NEEDED DRAZERK IS SCUM On November 17 2011 11:18 prplhz wrote: START VOTING DRAZERK HIRORUBY AND CYBER_CHEESE STOP VOTING LANAIA AND CHAOSER ##Vote Cyber_Cheese ALSO WTF ABOUT KENPACHI GG SON SORRY FOR MY VOTE On November 18 2011 10:53 prplhz wrote: ##Vote bumatlarge oh my god you suck MORE PEOPLE ON DRAZERK, HIRORUBY, AND CYBER_CHEESE LESS PEOPLE ON SINANI206 THANK YOU BloodyC0bbler as RebirthOfLeGenD has been killed. You are RebirthOfLegend! As an outlet for your rage, you've become a bus driver, running over anyone who gets in your way. Once per game at night, you may bus yourself with target player. Careful not to break physics! You win with town. + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2011 01:25 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: LSB, you are straight up lying. The PM chain shows you made a favorable decision to the bus driver just because he pmed you more. And don't tell me you thought out all the implications of him being able to bus himself. If you actually thought it out you would realize that having a busdriver who can bus himself in a game is generally broken to begin with. Having a bus driver who can bus himself in a game with puppeteer/roleblock in it makes no sense at all it doesn't allow you to logically map out the actions. By sheer virtue of him bussing himself it doesn't allow you to resolve what happens first, his bus of himself or my mind control of him. This is shown when you have "Physics fail" as our actions resolution. You didn't think it through properly and made a retarded as fuck decision by ON A WHIM BECAUSE HE ASKED allowing tnkted to bus himself. If you saw the implications of allowing that and still allowed it, then you are an idiot. That obviously isn't the case though, you did it without realizing how it would fuck over action resolution than wouldn't go back on it. The part that pisses me off about it though is that you have the balls to try and say "It's mafia fault for not asking the right questions!" No, it's mafia fault for not saying "Hey, if a bus driver hypothetically existed he wouldn't be able to bus drive himself, RIGHT?" before tnkted asked if he could bus drive himself. The reason I wouldn't ask such a stupid question is because the only thing that should stop my bus, is if I somehow got role blocked which is impossible. Logically him being able to bus himself makes our actions unresolvable, doesn't punish him for claiming like you said this game would, and furthermore with a mayor in play makes him pseudo-invincible, or requiring a roleblock + hit to kill. So tell me, how are you blaming night 2 on mafia incompetence outright while claiming you thought everything through? The implications above are clear. You fucked up, and now you are unable to admit you fucked up. No host is perfect, hell I even fucked up a few times hosting in games. The difference is I admit when I fuck up. supersoft as syllogism has been killed. You are syllogism! As a player that almost always rolls town, you've inherited the ability to impact the game even after death. Upon death by lynch, you may place a vote the following cycle, but may not post in the thread. Upon death by day or night hit, you may post in the thread and vote during the following cycle. You win with town. + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2012 06:32 syllogism wrote: I'm also accepting role claims, pretty sure the setup is easily broken as long as we keep this quiet so as not to attract Kurumi's wrath On February 25 2012 07:27 syllogism wrote: I've in my possession one (1) Ice cream and am willing to trade it for an item of equal of greater value On February 25 2012 08:47 syllogism wrote: I've only two claims so far, hopefully the pace will pick up while I'm asleep. On February 26 2012 00:13 syllogism wrote: I've 5 claims right now, so even if some of you are still for some reason suspicious of my intentions, you might as well claim by this point. The majority of players will claim eventually and you are only giving me less time to plan. On February 26 2012 08:54 syllogism wrote: 11 role claims so far, looking kind of grim then! On February 26 2012 09:15 syllogism wrote: Sheth: Mass claim is a good idea, claiming to a random person is not. I already have 11 claims from people who are quite likely to all be town. You have 47.5 hours to decide a lynch. Deadline is 03:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17712 Posts
Did BC bus himself with a NK target? Or how the hell does this work? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
for what it's worth, I received opposite alignments back for Foolish and Ver. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
but i guess it was just coincidence that the first two roles to be revealed had hidden powers means i used it wrong last night, anyway. oh well. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 13 2013 12:42 Acrofales wrote: How did Syllo die, if he's being protected? Fake message? Did BC bus himself with a NK target? Or how the hell does this work? No the message is real. might as well claim it now I didn't get roleblocked. I'm sandroba. My role is worded that I decide that a player is syllogism and town, then I protect him. Downside is that I can't change the target. But the target is marv, so i dun cur. ololol. The announcement is a blanket "sandroba protects syllo" by design. Marv should now also return "syllogism" to rolename checks. I did crumbs and shit but i cba to look for them atm. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17712 Posts
On March 13 2013 12:43 marvellosity wrote: well, if we had medics they failed pretty hard :p for what it's worth, I received opposite alignments back for Foolish and Ver. Do you believe the check? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
No idea at all. Luckily it has no bearing on the fact that Foolishness needs to hang. ##Vote: Foolishness | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Lynch the fool. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Let's kill this mofo. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
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