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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 08 2013 18:46 GMT
#467
On March 09 2013 03:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
My Case on Frorgon

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 22:29 Frorgon wrote:
Good morning all.

Glad to see things picking up a bit now.

As far as the discussion on "lurkers", I don't think it can be considered an applicable label for anyone as of yet, I mean there is still a lot of time left in day 1. But I will definitely be keeping my eye out over the next few hours.I also agree that I'd rather find a logical reason to lynch someone on day 1 instead of just randomly choosing someone. I'm not afraid to call people out but it seems quite scummy to just attack someone without any useful contribution behind it.

Also bduddy, you can claim you are lurking for personal reasons, but how are we to know this is true? You were warned before this game started that you should only commit if you had the proper amount of free time. A busy schedule is no excuse, so I do hope you contribute.


I believe now it is applicable to call you a lurker. I'm kind of confused as to why you think it is scummy to attack people to see their reactions and how they react under pressure. I've seen players vote on almost everybody in the game by the end of D1 who weren't scum but were fishing for information, I have yet to see scum play so ballsy.

You claim to not be afraid to call people out on things but when you tried you were almost afraid to commit and were very back and forth about it.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 06:29 Frorgon wrote:
@OmniEulogy I'm wondering why you asked me about what I thought was suspicious behavior. I clearly explained that in my initial post about the matter. It made me a bit uneasy about whether or not you were trying to get redundant information posted to cloud up the thread. As Wave said, the amount of posts you had started to raise a red flag for me. And don't get me wrong, it's not necessarily the amount of posts you had that was bad, it was that you seemed to be drowning the thread for a while with just your thoughts and limited discussion from others. That being said, I feel better about your contributions in the past few pages since other people have shown up.


"The amount you talk to yourself while nobody is here raises a red flag, everything you've said while more than 1 person has been here has been awesome!" what? This to me seems like scum trying to pretend to contribute while at the same time not trying to make anybody upset. It wouldn't have made me look at it twice if you had been active and contributing but as we all know you've made 4 posts in nearly 48 hours. This is not acceptable for town. This is the behavior of scum.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 19:15 Frorgon wrote:
Alright I'm back. In my opinion, bduddy is not making a good case for himself. That's 3 different excuses for being inactive right now due to his "busy life". I really don't care about how busy your life is.

Nobodywonder still looking real scummy. Unvotes bduddy after the terrible explanation provided. I'm thinking they could both be scum covering for each other. NW makes a case early on against bduddy without actually being serious about it so there are no reprocussions. Bduddy has his suspicion on people who in my opinion don't same overly scummy as of yet, and is defending NW.

Right now I'm narrowing down my vote between NW and bduddy and I plan to make an actual vote shortly after they respond, if they respond. There should still be a decent amount of time on the clock for D1 after my vote.


So many things wrong with your last post.
- Attacks the weakest player in the game NW, WITHOUT placing a vote. Just a casual "wow you are so scummy"
- Makes an association case between NW and Bduddy.
- Claims he will make his case and we will have plenty of time to analyze and go over it. Nice case he's made.

##Vote: Frogron

We need to step it up town. The only two players I can identify as even having a chance at being town are Krafla and Rainbows. If you are town and have been content to just stay quiet and not contribute, wake the fuck up. Nobody is getting replaced tonight, stop talking about it. Everybody has posted D1 the only way somebody is getting replaced is if they don't vote.

The following players are also on my list of potential scum

Arctic Daishi - Playing the noob card after lurking for 36~ hours, NOT a smart move. I want to see some serious contribution from you starting D2 and if I don't I will be pushing for your lynch. Hell if Frogron can save his ass before the end of D1 from me I'll go after you in the next 7 hours.

Bduddy - Lurking, scummy, if Frogron hadn't contributed less I'd be happy to see him gone today. BUT he does claim he's been busy so for D1 he gets some slack. Could just be an uninterested townie. Nothing to really disprove that so far.

ChewOnStu - almost as bad as Frogron, really bad sheep vote. scummy.

NobodyWonder I was going to vote on for most of today but realized if he is lynched and flips town we gain nothing, I'm not against seeing him lynched as I agree he's scummy as hell but I don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket.

And then there is also Matriarch who is lurking as well... the largest problem I can see here, IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY ALL OF YOU ARE SCUM. So TOWNIES again I ask Wake The Fuck Up. I am seriously getting annoyed by the lack of activity out of you. You will cost us this game if you don't snap out of it before we end up lynching you.


This just in: Omni is town.

I agree with the sentiment that this lynch is going too smoothly. Zero opposition.

TOWN: Consider targets like ChewOnStu and Frogron. Good case by Omnizzle here.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 08 2013 18:49 GMT
#468
Wow I just read that response by Frogron again. It's like he took my stance on Omni's "questions" post, wrapped it with a lining of scum read, but ultimately he feels good about Omni.

Jeeze.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Frogron


This is a pretty sheepy vote. The NW lynch seems like an easy way for scum to not do anything. We need a DYNAMIC lynch here.

I am consolidating my vote.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 04:56 GMT
#861
Hey guys, sorry I've pretty much been a lurking piece of shit so far since mid day 1. Sorry, things to do, people to see, roomates to argue with.

I'm looking at the red lynch atm... MLuneth is looking like a prime candidate for todays lynch imo.

Opening Post
On March 07 2013 12:24 MLuneth wrote:
Flavour was certainly pretty sweet

I know it's my first game so I'm still learning but I don't think we should just lynch Krafla without reason, even if it would be fantastically ironic.
Your post Omni seems pretty reasonable and a good basis to work on ^_^


Completely buddies Omni, and acts all "pro town" by not wanting to lynch Krafla (which, was obviously a troll vote).

MLuneth joke votes me, but someone calls him out on it, and get's really paranoid.

On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote:
Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear


Why would town need to verify their obvious joke post was a joke? Nervous scum.

A weak distancing attempt


Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it.

On March 07 2013 17:34 MLuneth wrote:
EBWOP Forgot to add TheRavensName to above list of people that have done little

Coin said
##Vote: Arctic Daishi


This scummy vote
On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?


Blatantly sheeps the NW vote, and keeps it there the entire game. And for what reason? Suspiciously targeting lurkers... OH WAIT, hypocrisy! Wasn't that exactly what MLuneth was doing? In addition, ML is picking on someone that hasn't defended themselves explicitly. Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that.

Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW.

Lynch this guy.

On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote:
My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.

I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are


^ There's that "no defence" statement again. ML hasn't attempted (even badly) to scumhunt at all to find a better candidate than NW.

@MLuneth

Respond to this. Do things. Stop playing the noob card all game and perform.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 05:01 GMT
#862
@Taco

Explain this bullshittery

On March 09 2013 08:30 MeatlessTaco wrote:
No one will care about my reads right now. I'll post all my thoughts beginning of day 2 so there is plenty of time to discuss lynching me. The only 2 actives I could vote for aren't under suspicion, so it is between Chew and Arctic.

##Unvote
##Vote: Arctic Daishi


"I can't push a mislynch on some active guy, so I'll vote a lurker guy"
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 05:10 GMT
#864
OE shouldn't be on the ballot for lynch today.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 05:28 GMT
#866
Taco.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 05:30 GMT
#869
On March 10 2013 14:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not convinced OE is scum at all actually. I have a null on him right now and until Geript can prove to me otherwise, I won't be voting him.
Luneth is a much stronger vote and I've been leaning towards him since last night after Daishi was hammered.
Glad to have you back, Rainbows, and strong delurk. The only thing that bothers me is with such a strong case, where's your vote?

Vote: MLuneth

Maybe this will get him to come back and start answering some questions. I don't even know what to say about Matriarch.


Right here

##Vote: MLuneth
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 05:48 GMT
#872
On March 10 2013 14:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
In an interest to not just sheep Rainbows and add to discussion, Rainbows is your secondary read on Taco perchance based on this at all?
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 14:20 MLuneth wrote:
Yeah, was going to get to that in my post.
Considering changing vote to one of several people

When will Arctic Daishi be replaced if he doesn't respond?

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 14:14 MeatlessTaco wrote:
FYI.. Arctic has 2 posts total on TL.net. He'll probably be replaced.


The fact that the both of them asked when he was going to be replaced is curious, and might add up to a scumteam 'plan' to pretend they thought he was going to be replaced when they knew very well he'd show up to make them look good. (Not realizing we'd lynch him, obv)


Taco yes, cus that's shady as fuck.

ML not so much. Asking a question to host is pretty null, even if it's about a scum guy being replaced. What I find most suspect about that quote is the "considering changing my vote to one of several people' lol
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 06:31 GMT
#878
Not voting Omni because he's one of the towniest looking dudes in the thread. Worstclynch right now.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 06:34 GMT
#879
Also we should consider the kraf claim as truth until see more confirmed blues.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 20:39 GMT
#888
everyone is being incredibly lurky... barring a few. im not exempt from this, but srsly if any of he siper lurkers that are under suspicion are town, give us some fkin reads.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 10 2013 21:03 GMT
#894
i dont want to lynch OE... I initially found him suspect because of that stupid question post, but i think hes town atm. Posting actively, discussing etc, hes not afraid. Just because he was wrong (about AD) doesnt indicate scum.

He's quite active, and i think if hes scum we can catch him later with all of he information we have.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 01:17 GMT
#933
Sup guys.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 01:23 GMT
#936
apparently nothing is up at all *sigh* make interesting things happen. I already gave my stuff on ML and what I wanted from Taco... but considering neither of them have done anything since...

Maybe we should lynch Matriarch because she's a girl?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 01:44 GMT
#943
Haha, what do you want? both of our targets for today are (probably) going to lurk into the deadline. There's nothing much we can do right now except stick our thumbs up our ass and wait for a flip. Unless someone has something mind blowing to share.

It sucks. Mafia want this lynch to happen if either of those guys is town. But town also want them dead because they are most suspect, and we can't even have their opinions of recent events to help us along on future days.

@Luneth, Taco

If y'alls be town, speak now or forever hold your scumreads.

Don't you know girls are 25% more likely to roll scum? Facts.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 04:14 GMT
#958
On March 11 2013 13:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
I wasn't going to step in to try and let it die, but wtf is this Geript?
I'm pretty sure we've established that we won't be lynching him tomorrow, as there are scummier people out there; most of the town has already agreed to this. Why are you still trying to push this?
To me it looks like:
a) You're really reaching and arguing semantics at the way OE decided to use the word scummy and the phrasing he used. If he's actively thinking of AD as town wouldn't that make him town (wrong, but town)? If he was scum he'd know what AD was.
b) You're actively trying to stir up shit since OE seems to have a bit of a short fuse to him.

There's nothing towny about actively looking for multiple reasons for actions from both town and scum perspectives. But why make the previous post about thinking about Arctic as town. It literally serves no purpose from town perspective. None whatsoever. Then he wants to pull bullshit like, "OMG I was totally sold that AD was scum. He was even one of my scum reads. See how towny I must be." Fuck that. That's not town play; that's simply stupid scum play.

##unvote
##vote OmniEulogy


Geript, you stupid breh?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 05:05 GMT
#960
I'd rather lynch Geript than OE. We should also kll MLuneth gogogo vote him.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 15:05 GMT
#982
MLuneth, your case is bad. If you can't see why a dumb policy question was pointless so late into day 1, then I don't know what to tell you. I lol'd @ the OMGUS part haha.

MLuneth thinks I'm scum because:

- I made a 'meh" case and voted him
- I didn't want to answer his bad question

@ML

You never even tried to question NW. Please point me to a place in your filter where you ask "Hey, NW, what was your reasoning for ________ or something"

You were trying to get 'information', or whatever you'd call that question, out of me instead of the guy you wanted to lynch. Town want to find out if their vote is actually scum or not, and you not once did that, just played the backseat voting game while throwing a useless question my way.

Seriously if you're town, try harder.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 15:08 GMT
#983
On March 11 2013 18:44 Krafla wrote:
Good morning all, sorry I've been MASSIVELY INACTIVE again.

So it looks like the vote at the moment is between MLuneth or MeatlessTaco.

I was initially suspicious of MeatlessTaco due to his aggressive nature, but early on I decided against a vote for him because he'd contributed more than nobodywonder. Now by the time night one rolled around I'd been convinced by reading through the thread that a check on MLuneth would provide a better return than a check on Meatless.

It turns out it didn't matter who I made a check on because I got roleblocked. Now (Warning speculation) assuming I was RB'd by the scum and not by the town, who do you think the Mafia would've seen as my most likely target?

Especially over the night there was a lot of speculation towards MLuneth, which is what persuaded me to use my check on MLuneth. Now if I picked MLuneth as the person most warranting a check, what are the chances that the mob second guessed me and blocked me?

For the moment I'm going to

##Vote: MLuneth

primarily because even though he was active at the time he didn't switch his vote when near the end of Day 1 whilst town was coming to the consensus that a vote on AD was better.



You're making this blue claim hard to believe, Krafla -.-

You act like scum KNEW that you were the 1-shot cop. This is just a terrible reason.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 11 2013 16:06 GMT
#986
MLuneth:

Doesn't vote AD when he was clearly around.

Distances AD early with non-threatening vote early.

Sheep votes most popular mislynch target.

OMGUS cases me.

Only contributions are sheeping and 'casing' me when he's up against the wall.

Discuss.

MLuneth talk with me bro. Don't just pop in when I'm not around and be all like HEY IM TOWN WTF U SCUM
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