EPTMarv seems to be taking the easy way out and calling out a lurker. Do "vets" normally stay this quiet during day 1 so they don't stand too much for N1, or is he just coasting?
The rest of the lurkers are pretty annoying too.
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
Marv seems to be taking the easy way out and calling out a lurker. Do "vets" normally stay this quiet during day 1 so they don't stand too much for N1, or is he just coasting? The rest of the lurkers are pretty annoying too. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 04:38 gonzaw wrote: Considering town Keirathi from WLIIA, this seems too "passive" from you. If you thought I was scum you wouldn't show hesitation to call me out, yet here you just post some stuff that to me even seems rehashed from other times I've played with you if I recall correctly, and don't even seem to have anything to do with this game (you just said how I played in both Aperture and in WLIIA and that's it, you make no conclusion at all) Let's take a look, shall we? One of your big posts about me in WLIAA: On November 01 2012 12:26 gonzaw wrote: Hmm.... Don't really know what to think of this (Keirathi basically wants people to check him out?). Keirathi why do you want BH to comment on the stuff I said about you? You are playing differently that in previous games I've played with you, and you still don't seem to contribute anything of your own other than slightly "pressure" some people (Chezinu and BH now apparently). If you are town you would really need to step up your game, because it's making me hard to think of you as a townie that cares about this game right now. That comment of yours seems weird for a scum to make....but damn I've seen scum post weird comments before (even in our last game) so I don't really want to take it into account, at least if you don't contribute or do something other than appear you are active by posting every once and then. In Aperture Mafia 2 you were like confirmed town in my mind in very very little time by the way you posted, and in Can't Believe I remember you being part of discussions and stuff early on (even if you were "fluffy" or wishy-washy at times which made me FoS you initially...but you became pretty "obvious" town in D2 and D3). I don't see you doing either here, you are not even close to making me consider you town which is what makes me worried as well. And another: On November 02 2012 01:51 gonzaw wrote: So, damn; I think Keirathi is the most likely scum out of all of them.Oh fuck this post restriction I won't make it in time. He has done 0 scumhunting at all this day other than making "probing" questions to players like Chezinu or BH. He wasn't part of any discussion, and worst of all didn't seem to care. He didn't even seem to care to defend himself against my points. Again, the main point is that he doesn't care about the game and is not contributing. Again, in Aperture 2 or even Can't Believe, he was part of every discussion and would have never acted like he's doing here at all. Yeah I think he should be today's lynch. But fuck I won't be around here for that, so I hope you guys can make something out of this D1. You were attacking me for being passive and not having definitive reads, just probing around. So, if I was doing that in that game, and doing it in this game, why am I actually scum this time? And also, I beg to differ that I didn't come to a conclusion. I said I would be up for lynching you, then gave an example of your town play and your scum play. Obviously if I thought you were town, I wouldn't want to lynch you. Therefore the obvious implication was that I think you have a good chance of being scum. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On February 15 2013 04:55 austinmcc wrote: randombum, could you please give me your thoughts on iamperfection, as well as who would win the duckfight from earlier on the page? Actually, now that you mention it he looks shady to me too. For similar reasoning I had on oats. He's definitely going on my to watch list. Duck 2 clearly wins. Gangster vs cripple? easy fight. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Clearly, no man in his right mind would pick Duck 1. Therefore, there must be a deeper level to the riddle. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 05:07 Dandel Ion wrote: The duck question seems like nefarious trickery. Clearly, no man in his right mind would pick Duck 1. Therefore, there must be a deeper level to the riddle. I would pick duck 1. That scar is obviously a battle scar from when Godzilla surprised him in his hideout. And you can obviously see he lived to tell the tale. Any duck that can survive Godzilla can totes survive a lame gangster. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
I mean he dopes? Is a cripple? The Acne-ridden face means he gets no Duckess pussy, ever, so his selfesteem is probably down on the floor. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Other than those posts he doesn't say a whole lot. I'm leaning scum since all his other posts are calling people town and saying kurumi was scummy but never following through. I'd really like to hear his thoughts on who he'd lynch if I wasnt an option before I rush to judgement on him though since I've had people do this who were scum and town. Going through filters who really concerns me is Mr.CC. I cohosted one of his games and obsed the others and I don't think I've ever seen him this inactive. That feels like a really large change. I need to see if he has actually played any non-newbies but unless he shows up he'd be a good policy lynch. Still going through filters though, that just stood out as really off to me. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
He does that sometimes, this silly willy. That said I'm out for the night. Might miss deadline. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 15 2013 04:58 randombum wrote: Anyways, oats is looking worse in my eyes. Just read his filter, its all pointless questions and argumentative writing, and it's full of random "Let's join this wagon" vote switching. Marv seems to be taking the easy way out and calling out a lurker. Do "vets" normally stay this quiet during day 1 so they don't stand too much for N1, or is he just coasting? The rest of the lurkers are pretty annoying too. Hello, potential friend. I have a question - do you think all lurkers are likely to be town? | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote: I have it on good faith that he's just absent. He does that sometimes, this silly willy. That said I'm out for the night. Might miss deadline. Was that in response to me? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote: I have it on good faith that he's just absent. He does that sometimes, this silly willy. That said I'm out for the night. Might miss deadline. I assume then, Mr. D. Ion, that you are happy with your vote to remove Stutters from the establishment, despite his recent willingness to discourse with the rest of us gentleman? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On February 15 2013 04:54 randombum wrote: I'm just going to address your last paragraph since a lot of the top is reasonable. I did attack you when there wasn't much to base it on. Mainly, I just wanted to get something going since at the time there was nothing being discussed and I was bored. So a weak attack (which it is, my whole point is "you are reading me wrong, you are bad/scum") was what came to mind. But, needs to be addressed. How am I sheeping on other opinions when I'm the only one that attacked you in the way I did? Because other people have attacked you for other reasons? I'll admit I looked harder at you and oats because you two stuck out. ?? When BH made the "case" against me, you OMGUS me out of nowhere, that seemed sheeping to me. Your previous opinion on me wasn't "original" either, since Dandel and BH had basically posted what you said earlier. I don't see any backpedaling at all. In the same post where I voted you my reasoning was "Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong, or you are purposely trying to interpret me in a negative light which only mafia would do." then the post after it's " I just think you are not contributing which can be bad town or scum." Its consistent, perhaps bad, but consistent. The way you voted for me made it seem like you were convinced I was scum or some shit, there was no "oh I'll just kill you for being useless" tone in your posts. So would you still lynch me or not? More importantly, do you think I'm scum or not? I don't care if you want to "kill me just because" or something. On February 15 2013 05:01 Keirathi wrote: You were attacking me for being passive and not having definitive reads, just probing around. So, if I was doing that in that game, and doing it in this game, why am I actually scum this time? And also, I beg to differ that I didn't come to a conclusion. I said I would be up for lynching you, then gave an example of your town play and your scum play. Obviously if I thought you were town, I wouldn't want to lynch you. Therefore the obvious implication was that I think you have a good chance of being scum. Your "analysis" in your post was fluff, you just said how I acted in Aperture and how I acted in WLIIA, without forming any connection with this game at all. You think I'm acting like WLIIA? If so why didn't you post anything about it in that post? Why didn't you go deeper into it? Also I dunno if you are scum this time, that's what I want to find out. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:13 Stutters695 wrote: God damnit, all Marv makes me think.of with all this gentlemen talk is THE GENTLEMEN from How I Met Your Mother. It is my cunning plan, sir, to distract all you fine gentlemen from relevant discourse with thoughts of poorly made 'television' shows. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote: Hello, potential friend. I have a question - do you think all lurkers are likely to be town? No, I'm pretty sure out of all the lurkers there's bound to be at least mafia. Since have the people in the game are lurking. Would you like to re-word that question. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Can anyone give me a few questions to ponder to kickstart my brain? | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:12 gonzaw wrote: Your "analysis" in your post was fluff, you just said how I acted in Aperture and how I acted in WLIIA, without forming any connection with this game at all. You think I'm acting like WLIIA? If so why didn't you post anything about it in that post? Why didn't you go deeper into it? Also I dunno if you are scum this time, that's what I want to find out. My analysis wasn't fluff though. Obviously I think are playing like you played in WLIIA, or I wouldn't have said "Yea, I would be down to lynch gonzaw". I don't really see what part of that you don't comprehend. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I'm willing to vote iamperfection. Interaction with BH/Oats early iamperfection had similar thoughts to mine that BH was doing something similar to Rock Band. Make a case, watch reactions. Rock Band was a fantastic game for town, started off well BECAUSE of BH's case, and so I would expect iamperfection to be down with starting similarly. But when discussion starts, he gives reasons why he has a town read on oats and then... On February 13 2013 14:22 iamperfection wrote: do you have a point to your question or are you just questioning my logic for shits and giggles. i have a town read on oats deal with it On February 13 2013 14:30 iamperfection wrote: .... so your post had no point oats has had 0 fear of the spotlight in my view that is townie On February 13 2013 14:33 iamperfection wrote: instead of going with discussion, getting posts out of people and responding, he's particularly confrontational. Which is not out of character for him, I've seen him be confrontational and flippant, but he RECOGNIZES that BH is acting similar to Rock Band. He knows that game started out well because of BH's stuff. But instead of taking this opportunity to interact and to get reads on the people who disagree with his reads, he just gets confrontational and shuts up. Note that he gets confrontational and shuts up, not confrontational and argues that others are wrong/scummy.whats wrong with confrontational we aint finding scum if we hold hands and sing songs all day Filler iamperfections filter, in terms of pages, is sizeable for this point in the game. But there's a LOT of one-liners, and a LOT of meaningless questions, and a lot of poking at people who were speaking oddly, without doing anything. There's more in his filter than just these, but a lot of comments on people talking like chezinu or speaking in riddles. Also just a couple generic comments where he mentions marv but adds nothing to the thread - marv scum cuz he's not playing. marv scum guys. marv's post meant this or that. Cases/Lynches/Substantive Stuffz He chimed in about ducks. He was reading thread. He chimed in about crossfire and Grey putting up a filter. He was reading thread. There is not a sense, from his filter, that he has missed large windows of time. In that light, the positions he's taken for/against lynches are very ... terse? He's made no attempt to push anything of important, no attempt to really defend anyone apart from saying oats took spotlight and is therefore town. It's been a relatively dead thread and a lot of us are guilty of this as well, but...iamperfection keeps touching on suspicions and then never DOING anything. On February 13 2013 14:33 iamperfection wrote: Never asks kurumi anything or interacts directly with kurumi beyond asking him to stop speaking in riddles (Possible magical kurumi rule violation!?!?!?!?). Does ask BH for his thoughts on Kurumi, but nothing else. whats wrong with confrontational we aint finding scum if we hold hands and sing songs all day Here's him talking with BH about Gonzaw: On February 14 2013 09:54 iamperfection wrote: Would you care elaborate on the specifics ? Also oats is terrible Lynch he clearly has an interest in who gets lynched Why are you pursuing this so strongly? On February 14 2013 10:05 iamperfection wrote: He is saying he still thinks gonz is scum because he only started acting town after being called out. On February 14 2013 10:13 iamperfection wrote: So what should he have done bh? Continue to deep it up and do nothing? His reaction to the pressure should be a null tell at best There's almost nothing there. He doesn't comment on any of the other stuff with Gonzaw, just noting that Gonzaw being townie in response to pressure is null. Fine. What about any other comments made? What about the non-BH's who wanted to lynch Gonzaw? His own full thoughts on Gonzaw? Nope. Not in thread. Note: he even engages Crossfire here, noting what BH was saying about Gonzaw On February 14 2013 10:15 iamperfection wrote: He didn't I already explained it. Are you reading the thread? But again, he's just hitting this one facet of the posts for/against Gonzaw, and nothing else. So where's his vote? Where's his case? Stutters. On February 14 2013 23:12 iamperfection wrote: the wagon of justice feels better about kurumi's contributions(aggressiveness and speaking some sense) the wagon of justice now puts its full weight behind a stutters lynch. lets see if we can make him "catch up ". ## vote stutters On February 15 2013 00:34 iamperfection wrote: so stutters has a meta where he doesn't do anything? pretty useful meta if he were scum. i say we force him to contribute or he should die a most horrible death. Stutters, whether scum or town, is an easy person to drop a vote on today. I may be slightly biased here, because I don't view a vote as REALLY pressuring someone into acting when they're lurking, but: lets see if we can make him "catch up ". i say we force him to contribute or he should die a most horrible death hey group, let's do this thing. hey group, let's do this thing. His vote is on stutters, and maybe that's all the motivation he thinks stutters needs. But he makes NO attempt to actively engage stutters in discussion. To me, this is not a townie looking at a lurker. kita and kurumi have both poked at lurkers, explained why/how, and continued on. [caveat: that doesn't mean they're town, it's just how they've acted]. iamperfection's way of voting/calling out stutters is entirely different. It's not actually an attempt to move things forward at all, imo.##vote: iamperfection He's got filler. He's chimed in on some minor things about oats/DI/gonzaw, but never pushed discussion forward, even when given the opportunity to on the first night concerning Oats. He didn't try to figure out what kurumi was saying. He's not really living up to his pressure on stutters. I would like to lynch him. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:16 randombum wrote: No, I'm pretty sure out of all the lurkers there's bound to be at least mafia. Since have the people in the game are lurking. Would you like to re-word that question. I had hoped the implication of my question was clear. Do you think it is a good idea to try to discern who between the quiet ones have evil intent, and which have good intent? Assuming the answer to my question is yes, I would like for you to tell me why doing so is 'taking the easy way out'. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do? | ||
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