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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#721
On February 15 2013 06:35 randombum wrote:
Marv, are you REQUIRED to post the way you are.


If I were to answer your question, potential friend, I would have to lop your penis off. And I am not inclined to show such cruelty to one so bummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#722
On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


My inclinations are opposite. Interesting.

Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 14 2013 21:38 GMT
#723
On February 15 2013 06:35 randombum wrote:
Marv, are you REQUIRED to post the way you are.

Am I the only one who reads the thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
February 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#724
Marv, are you still confident in your read on Hassy?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#725
Wait.

marv are you drinking bourbon with me or ... who is that to?

On February 15 2013 06:35 iamperfection wrote:
I don't no what your smoking Austin I have been around

I post one liners deal with it

Yes. I said you've been around. That's part of why I think you're scummy. You have chimed in on a bunch of little things like ducks and crossfire's filter list - showing that you are around. Yet you don't follow up your questions, don't tease out more information from your reads, and don't fully comment on cases 'n' such. The fact that you HAVE been around means you've had the opportunity to do that, whereas if I said the same things about kita's play today, he could say "well I've been at work and didn't post at all, so I haven't had time to respond to everything." It's a point against you, imo, but I agree you've been around.
Fe fi fo fum.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 21:40 GMT
#726
On February 15 2013 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
(Also I'll note that we went through this whole song and dance about reading iamperfection in GSL III, where he was scum and iirc you found him to be his town self. Heck, he was asking you to read him so he could show how townie he was. At the very least, BECAUSE this exact same thing has come up before with half of this playerbase, he KNOWS what you're looking for, and he's fooled you before. I think basing a vote purely off meta here is da poo poo).

Given a sample of his posts, looking at just those games and not others because I don't really feel the need to go super duper far on this, we're looking at a pretty high confidence interval for pegging him as scum, imo.

I AM MANGLING SOME OF THESE THINGS SO BAD. I HOPE IT HURTS, ROLE CREATOR. I HOPE IT HURTS.

Not sure if you're talking to me. I wasn't in GSL 3, but I was happy to hop on the iamp lynch in GSL 2 because he couldn't keep his townie persona up while marv was getting lynched,

The only time I've ever been wrong about iamp's alignment once I made a final decision was Aperture 2, and I was basing that off of 3 posts just because he was on the lynching block.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 21:40 GMT
#727
austin, I would share my bourbon with the scamp, iamp.

To the gentleman Crossfire - the gentleman known as Hassybaby has not given me pause to reconsider my belief that he has evil intentions.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 21:42 GMT
#728
On February 15 2013 06:40 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
(Also I'll note that we went through this whole song and dance about reading iamperfection in GSL III, where he was scum and iirc you found him to be his town self. Heck, he was asking you to read him so he could show how townie he was. At the very least, BECAUSE this exact same thing has come up before with half of this playerbase, he KNOWS what you're looking for, and he's fooled you before. I think basing a vote purely off meta here is da poo poo).

Given a sample of his posts, looking at just those games and not others because I don't really feel the need to go super duper far on this, we're looking at a pretty high confidence interval for pegging him as scum, imo.

I AM MANGLING SOME OF THESE THINGS SO BAD. I HOPE IT HURTS, ROLE CREATOR. I HOPE IT HURTS.

Not sure if you're talking to me. I wasn't in GSL 3, but I was happy to hop on the iamp lynch in GSL 2 because he couldn't keep his townie persona up while marv was getting lynched,

The only time I've ever been wrong about iamp's alignment once I made a final decision was Aperture 2, and I was basing that off of 3 posts just because he was on the lynching block.

You were in GSL 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602

GSL 2 was the super shitty one, and you weren't in it, at least D1.

If you look at you and iamperfection in GSL 3, he was actively asking you to tell everyone his alignment, because you could read him so well.
Fe fi fo fum.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 14 2013 21:43 GMT
#729
On February 15 2013 06:42 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:40 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
(Also I'll note that we went through this whole song and dance about reading iamperfection in GSL III, where he was scum and iirc you found him to be his town self. Heck, he was asking you to read him so he could show how townie he was. At the very least, BECAUSE this exact same thing has come up before with half of this playerbase, he KNOWS what you're looking for, and he's fooled you before. I think basing a vote purely off meta here is da poo poo).

Given a sample of his posts, looking at just those games and not others because I don't really feel the need to go super duper far on this, we're looking at a pretty high confidence interval for pegging him as scum, imo.

I AM MANGLING SOME OF THESE THINGS SO BAD. I HOPE IT HURTS, ROLE CREATOR. I HOPE IT HURTS.

Not sure if you're talking to me. I wasn't in GSL 3, but I was happy to hop on the iamp lynch in GSL 2 because he couldn't keep his townie persona up while marv was getting lynched,

The only time I've ever been wrong about iamp's alignment once I made a final decision was Aperture 2, and I was basing that off of 3 posts just because he was on the lynching block.

You were in GSL 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602

GSL 2 was the super shitty one, and you weren't in it, at least D1.

If you look at you and iamperfection in GSL 3, he was actively asking you to tell everyone his alignment, because you could read him so well.

I ask him every game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 21:43 GMT
#730
On February 15 2013 06:42 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:40 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:36 austinmcc wrote:
(Also I'll note that we went through this whole song and dance about reading iamperfection in GSL III, where he was scum and iirc you found him to be his town self. Heck, he was asking you to read him so he could show how townie he was. At the very least, BECAUSE this exact same thing has come up before with half of this playerbase, he KNOWS what you're looking for, and he's fooled you before. I think basing a vote purely off meta here is da poo poo).

Given a sample of his posts, looking at just those games and not others because I don't really feel the need to go super duper far on this, we're looking at a pretty high confidence interval for pegging him as scum, imo.

I AM MANGLING SOME OF THESE THINGS SO BAD. I HOPE IT HURTS, ROLE CREATOR. I HOPE IT HURTS.

Not sure if you're talking to me. I wasn't in GSL 3, but I was happy to hop on the iamp lynch in GSL 2 because he couldn't keep his townie persona up while marv was getting lynched,

The only time I've ever been wrong about iamp's alignment once I made a final decision was Aperture 2, and I was basing that off of 3 posts just because he was on the lynching block.

You were in GSL 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602

GSL 2 was the super shitty one, and you weren't in it, at least D1.

If you look at you and iamperfection in GSL 3, he was actively asking you to tell everyone his alignment, because you could read him so well.

Oh, I got them confused. You're right.

Yes, iamp was asking me to give a read on him. And notice I refused to commit to the read, BECAUSE he was asking so hard.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
February 14 2013 21:44 GMT
#731
On February 15 2013 06:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:13 Stutters695 wrote:
God damnit, all Marv makes me think.of with all this gentlemen talk is THE GENTLEMEN from How I Met Your Mother.


It is my cunning plan, sir, to distract all you fine gentlemen from relevant discourse with thoughts of poorly made 'television' shows.

To you sir, I pose this question: is Gonzaw not the most unseemly gentleman in this fine establishment? Does sir Hassybaby's poor analysis truly make him more likely to poison our scotch over Mr Gonzaw whose actions this fine day strongly resemble his criminal actions in LIX?
(Posting like this is kinda fun lol)
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 14 2013 21:45 GMT
#732
Keir am I town or scum go.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 21:47 GMT
#733
You did have a bunch of posts about his meta and how you could read him though. I'm really not making this up. It doesn't mean you're wrong here, or can't read him, or ANYTHING. To me it just shows that (1) If he has a meta, it's been discussed to some length, including the exact points you're raising here. (2) To the extent that's his meta, he's been able to alter his playstyle temporarily at times to make you think he's town, based on the same criteria you're using here. (3) Ain't no (3).

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On October 22 2012 08:13 Keirathi wrote:
The only person I would feel in any way comfortable making any kind of meta read on while still alive in this game is iamperfection, and thats only because he has a very, very distinctly different posting style as town vs scum. At least until he figures out how to trick me

On October 23 2012 03:34 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 03:14 austinmcc wrote:
Keirathi:
I wrote some stuff here but it was super wishy-washy and it's just my thoughts that don't go anywhere. So instead, could you update your read on iamperfection, in long-form?

He's not being talked about, but you said he felt "kind of town" and noted that you felt confident in meta-reading him. Could you just blabber on in a post or two about what read you get from him based on his play this game and based on meta?

It's pretty easy.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 10:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection

Welcome to the dick pics party! Whaddya think of policy and whatnot?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=2#25

Im all for using votes to apply pressure and we don't have to worry about someone doing a stupid hammer it wont happen. However all this policy talk bores me time for some action.

On October 20 2012 09:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Hi drazak? What is your role?

blatant blue hunting darthpunk. Why not ask alignment instead of role?

Talk to me darthpunk i wish to know more.
## Vote DarthPunk



Note the bolded. Scum iamp doesn't say things like that that could potentially make him look bad. It's basically the same read I had on him in Aperture, where I was wrong. The key difference, I think, is that he only had 4 posts and I made a snap judgement rather than basing it on an overall pattern, partly because GSL2 was still going on at the time and I was convinced he was scum in that game (which I was right about). He is very distinctly more carefree as town, while being careful as scum.

Of course, I've told him this multiple times so he could potentially try to play differently, and his recent posting regarding me and v7 seems much more careful than his posting earlier in the day. So, I'm still slightly town on him and wouldn't want to lynch him today. If he is scum trying to play differently, I don't think he'll be able to keep it up for long.

On October 23 2012 03:53 Keirathi wrote:
It's pretty hard to separate that knowledge out. I've read or played in every single game that iamp has been in, AFAIK.

Maybe I would be a bit suspicious of a random guy for hopping on the easy bandwagons, but not more so than other people. But again, I don't think this is scum iamp.

On October 24 2012 05:23 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 04:25 iamperfection wrote:
On October 24 2012 03:42 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection

You not pushing your case isn't the main issue here (well it IS an issue, but not the main point). The concern I have is that you basically called Kei scum, and simply left your vote on v7 the entire time. What you post after the fact - what you said you should have done in retrospect - has no bearing on what you did.



i believe i chimed in from my phone. i couldn't be involved sorry? i guess. had work. And you know what even if was here i still would have left my vote on vaderseven the guy did nothing to make me think he was town.

so basically your case boils down to i didnt act like you. Vaderseven came across to me like he was full of crap so i make no apologies for leaving my vote on him.

These are the kind of posts that are making me suspicious of iamp again. It's just so...not iamp. Town iamp doesn't give a fuck what you think about him. He explains himself when he feels like it, and doesn't care how bad the explanation is. He certainly doesnt apologize, even sarcastically.



Note that you're even aware of the possibility that, because you've discussed this exact issue with him, he could just be acting differently to confuse you.
Fe fi fo fum.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 21:47 GMT
#734
On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.


On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


On February 15 2013 06:37 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


My inclinations are opposite. Interesting.

Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though.

My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 21:48 GMT
#735
On February 15 2013 06:44 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:15 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:13 Stutters695 wrote:
God damnit, all Marv makes me think.of with all this gentlemen talk is THE GENTLEMEN from How I Met Your Mother.


It is my cunning plan, sir, to distract all you fine gentlemen from relevant discourse with thoughts of poorly made 'television' shows.

To you sir, I pose this question: is Gonzaw not the most unseemly gentleman in this fine establishment? Does sir Hassybaby's poor analysis truly make him more likely to poison our scotch over Mr Gonzaw whose actions this fine day strongly resemble his criminal actions in LIX?
(Posting like this is kinda fun lol)


A man after my own heart! A finer man I have not laid my eyes on.

It indeed remains possible that gonzaw is, as you postulate, unseemly. However, he has shown a certain level of interest and discourse beyond which the bounder named Hassybaby has displayed. Certainly it will become clearer to the gentlemen of this establishment whether gonzaw has good or evil intentions in sessions to come.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 14 2013 21:50 GMT
#736
On February 15 2013 06:47 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.


Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


My inclinations are opposite. Interesting.

Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though.


It was a yes or no question not maybe or possibly
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 21:50 GMT
#737
On February 15 2013 06:47 austinmcc wrote:
You did have a bunch of posts about his meta and how you could read him though. I'm really not making this up. It doesn't mean you're wrong here, or can't read him, or ANYTHING. To me it just shows that (1) If he has a meta, it's been discussed to some length, including the exact points you're raising here. (2) To the extent that's his meta, he's been able to alter his playstyle temporarily at times to make you think he's town, based on the same criteria you're using here. (3) Ain't no (3).

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On October 22 2012 08:13 Keirathi wrote:
The only person I would feel in any way comfortable making any kind of meta read on while still alive in this game is iamperfection, and thats only because he has a very, very distinctly different posting style as town vs scum. At least until he figures out how to trick me

On October 23 2012 03:34 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 03:14 austinmcc wrote:
Keirathi:
I wrote some stuff here but it was super wishy-washy and it's just my thoughts that don't go anywhere. So instead, could you update your read on iamperfection, in long-form?

He's not being talked about, but you said he felt "kind of town" and noted that you felt confident in meta-reading him. Could you just blabber on in a post or two about what read you get from him based on his play this game and based on meta?

It's pretty easy.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 10:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection

Welcome to the dick pics party! Whaddya think of policy and whatnot?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=2#25

Im all for using votes to apply pressure and we don't have to worry about someone doing a stupid hammer it wont happen. However all this policy talk bores me time for some action.

On October 20 2012 09:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Hi drazak? What is your role?

blatant blue hunting darthpunk. Why not ask alignment instead of role?

Talk to me darthpunk i wish to know more.
## Vote DarthPunk



Note the bolded. Scum iamp doesn't say things like that that could potentially make him look bad. It's basically the same read I had on him in Aperture, where I was wrong. The key difference, I think, is that he only had 4 posts and I made a snap judgement rather than basing it on an overall pattern, partly because GSL2 was still going on at the time and I was convinced he was scum in that game (which I was right about). He is very distinctly more carefree as town, while being careful as scum.

Of course, I've told him this multiple times so he could potentially try to play differently, and his recent posting regarding me and v7 seems much more careful than his posting earlier in the day. So, I'm still slightly town on him and wouldn't want to lynch him today. If he is scum trying to play differently, I don't think he'll be able to keep it up for long.

On October 23 2012 03:53 Keirathi wrote:
It's pretty hard to separate that knowledge out. I've read or played in every single game that iamp has been in, AFAIK.

Maybe I would be a bit suspicious of a random guy for hopping on the easy bandwagons, but not more so than other people. But again, I don't think this is scum iamp.

On October 24 2012 05:23 Keirathi wrote:
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On October 24 2012 04:25 iamperfection wrote:
On October 24 2012 03:42 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection

You not pushing your case isn't the main issue here (well it IS an issue, but not the main point). The concern I have is that you basically called Kei scum, and simply left your vote on v7 the entire time. What you post after the fact - what you said you should have done in retrospect - has no bearing on what you did.



i believe i chimed in from my phone. i couldn't be involved sorry? i guess. had work. And you know what even if was here i still would have left my vote on vaderseven the guy did nothing to make me think he was town.

so basically your case boils down to i didnt act like you. Vaderseven came across to me like he was full of crap so i make no apologies for leaving my vote on him.

These are the kind of posts that are making me suspicious of iamp again. It's just so...not iamp. Town iamp doesn't give a fuck what you think about him. He explains himself when he feels like it, and doesn't care how bad the explanation is. He certainly doesnt apologize, even sarcastically.



Note that you're even aware of the possibility that, because you've discussed this exact issue with him, he could just be acting differently to confuse you.

I don't even know what we're arguing about at this point. I trust my ability to read iamp as the game goes on. As of right now, he hasn't shown enough in either direction for me to full say that he is scum or town, but currently leaning towards scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
February 14 2013 21:50 GMT
#738
Stutters are you keeping your vote on Mr. CC? I agree that his disappearance is disturbing, but I don't know if we can convince enough people to get him lynched cause it's majority lynch.

Guys we really need to start narrowing this down because it is majority lynch. I don't wanna no lynch day 1 cause that's terrible and gives us nothing.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 21:51 GMT
#739
On February 15 2013 06:50 iamperfection wrote:
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On February 15 2013 06:47 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.


On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


On February 15 2013 06:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


My inclinations are opposite. Interesting.

Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though.


It was a yes or no question not maybe or possibly

If I knew you were scum, I would be voting for you. If I knew you were town, I wouldn't be having this conversation.

Quit asking dumb questions.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 14 2013 21:52 GMT
#740
On February 15 2013 06:50 Crossfire99 wrote:
Stutters are you keeping your vote on Mr. CC? I agree that his disappearance is disturbing, but I don't know if we can convince enough people to get him lynched cause it's majority lynch.

Guys we really need to start narrowing this down because it is majority lynch. I don't wanna no lynch day 1 cause that's terrible and gives us nothing.

We got two hours that's a life time
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