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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:35 randombum wrote: Marv, are you REQUIRED to post the way you are. If I were to answer your question, potential friend, I would have to lop your penis off. And I am not inclined to show such cruelty to one so bummy. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote: My inclinations are opposite. Interesting. Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:35 randombum wrote: Marv, are you REQUIRED to post the way you are. Am I the only one who reads the thread | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
marv are you drinking bourbon with me or ... who is that to? On February 15 2013 06:35 iamperfection wrote: I don't no what your smoking Austin I have been around I post one liners deal with it Yes. I said you've been around. That's part of why I think you're scummy. You have chimed in on a bunch of little things like ducks and crossfire's filter list - showing that you are around. Yet you don't follow up your questions, don't tease out more information from your reads, and don't fully comment on cases 'n' such. The fact that you HAVE been around means you've had the opportunity to do that, whereas if I said the same things about kita's play today, he could say "well I've been at work and didn't post at all, so I haven't had time to respond to everything." It's a point against you, imo, but I agree you've been around. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:36 austinmcc wrote: (Also I'll note that we went through this whole song and dance about reading iamperfection in GSL III, where he was scum and iirc you found him to be his town self. Heck, he was asking you to read him so he could show how townie he was. At the very least, BECAUSE this exact same thing has come up before with half of this playerbase, he KNOWS what you're looking for, and he's fooled you before. I think basing a vote purely off meta here is da poo poo). Given a sample of his posts, looking at just those games and not others because I don't really feel the need to go super duper far on this, we're looking at a pretty high confidence interval for pegging him as scum, imo. I AM MANGLING SOME OF THESE THINGS SO BAD. I HOPE IT HURTS, ROLE CREATOR. I HOPE IT HURTS. Not sure if you're talking to me. I wasn't in GSL 3, but I was happy to hop on the iamp lynch in GSL 2 because he couldn't keep his townie persona up while marv was getting lynched, The only time I've ever been wrong about iamp's alignment once I made a final decision was Aperture 2, and I was basing that off of 3 posts just because he was on the lynching block. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
To the gentleman Crossfire - the gentleman known as Hassybaby has not given me pause to reconsider my belief that he has evil intentions. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:40 Keirathi wrote: Not sure if you're talking to me. I wasn't in GSL 3, but I was happy to hop on the iamp lynch in GSL 2 because he couldn't keep his townie persona up while marv was getting lynched, The only time I've ever been wrong about iamp's alignment once I made a final decision was Aperture 2, and I was basing that off of 3 posts just because he was on the lynching block. You were in GSL 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602 GSL 2 was the super shitty one, and you weren't in it, at least D1. If you look at you and iamperfection in GSL 3, he was actively asking you to tell everyone his alignment, because you could read him so well. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:42 austinmcc wrote: You were in GSL 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602 GSL 2 was the super shitty one, and you weren't in it, at least D1. If you look at you and iamperfection in GSL 3, he was actively asking you to tell everyone his alignment, because you could read him so well. I ask him every game | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:42 austinmcc wrote: You were in GSL 3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602 GSL 2 was the super shitty one, and you weren't in it, at least D1. If you look at you and iamperfection in GSL 3, he was actively asking you to tell everyone his alignment, because you could read him so well. Oh, I got them confused. You're right. Yes, iamp was asking me to give a read on him. And notice I refused to commit to the read, BECAUSE he was asking so hard. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:15 marvellosity wrote: It is my cunning plan, sir, to distract all you fine gentlemen from relevant discourse with thoughts of poorly made 'television' shows. To you sir, I pose this question: is Gonzaw not the most unseemly gentleman in this fine establishment? Does sir Hassybaby's poor analysis truly make him more likely to poison our scotch over Mr Gonzaw whose actions this fine day strongly resemble his criminal actions in LIX? (Posting like this is kinda fun lol) | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
From 3 + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2012 08:13 Keirathi wrote: The only person I would feel in any way comfortable making any kind of meta read on while still alive in this game is iamperfection, and thats only because he has a very, very distinctly different posting style as town vs scum. At least until he figures out how to trick me  On October 23 2012 03:34 Keirathi wrote: It's pretty easy. Note the bolded. Scum iamp doesn't say things like that that could potentially make him look bad. It's basically the same read I had on him in Aperture, where I was wrong. The key difference, I think, is that he only had 4 posts and I made a snap judgement rather than basing it on an overall pattern, partly because GSL2 was still going on at the time and I was convinced he was scum in that game (which I was right about). He is very distinctly more carefree as town, while being careful as scum. Of course, I've told him this multiple times so he could potentially try to play differently, and his recent posting regarding me and v7 seems much more careful than his posting earlier in the day. So, I'm still slightly town on him and wouldn't want to lynch him today. If he is scum trying to play differently, I don't think he'll be able to keep it up for long. On October 23 2012 03:53 Keirathi wrote: It's pretty hard to separate that knowledge out. I've read or played in every single game that iamp has been in, AFAIK. Maybe I would be a bit suspicious of a random guy for hopping on the easy bandwagons, but not more so than other people. But again, I don't think this is scum iamp. On October 24 2012 05:23 Keirathi wrote: These are the kind of posts that are making me suspicious of iamp again. It's just so...not iamp. Town iamp doesn't give a fuck what you think about him. He explains himself when he feels like it, and doesn't care how bad the explanation is. He certainly doesnt apologize, even sarcastically. Note that you're even aware of the possibility that, because you've discussed this exact issue with him, he could just be acting differently to confuse you. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote: Keir am I town or scum go. On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote: Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion. On February 15 2013 06:37 Keirathi wrote: Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:44 Stutters695 wrote: To you sir, I pose this question: is Gonzaw not the most unseemly gentleman in this fine establishment? Does sir Hassybaby's poor analysis truly make him more likely to poison our scotch over Mr Gonzaw whose actions this fine day strongly resemble his criminal actions in LIX? (Posting like this is kinda fun lol) A man after my own heart! A finer man I have not laid my eyes on. It indeed remains possible that gonzaw is, as you postulate, unseemly. However, he has shown a certain level of interest and discourse beyond which the bounder named Hassybaby has displayed. Certainly it will become clearer to the gentlemen of this establishment whether gonzaw has good or evil intentions in sessions to come. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
It was a yes or no question not maybe or possibly | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:47 austinmcc wrote: You did have a bunch of posts about his meta and how you could read him though. I'm really not making this up. It doesn't mean you're wrong here, or can't read him, or ANYTHING. To me it just shows that (1) If he has a meta, it's been discussed to some length, including the exact points you're raising here. (2) To the extent that's his meta, he's been able to alter his playstyle temporarily at times to make you think he's town, based on the same criteria you're using here. (3) Ain't no (3). From 3 + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2012 08:13 Keirathi wrote: The only person I would feel in any way comfortable making any kind of meta read on while still alive in this game is iamperfection, and thats only because he has a very, very distinctly different posting style as town vs scum. At least until he figures out how to trick me On October 23 2012 03:34 Keirathi wrote: It's pretty easy. Note the bolded. Scum iamp doesn't say things like that that could potentially make him look bad. It's basically the same read I had on him in Aperture, where I was wrong. The key difference, I think, is that he only had 4 posts and I made a snap judgement rather than basing it on an overall pattern, partly because GSL2 was still going on at the time and I was convinced he was scum in that game (which I was right about). He is very distinctly more carefree as town, while being careful as scum. Of course, I've told him this multiple times so he could potentially try to play differently, and his recent posting regarding me and v7 seems much more careful than his posting earlier in the day. So, I'm still slightly town on him and wouldn't want to lynch him today. If he is scum trying to play differently, I don't think he'll be able to keep it up for long. On October 23 2012 03:53 Keirathi wrote: It's pretty hard to separate that knowledge out. I've read or played in every single game that iamp has been in, AFAIK. Maybe I would be a bit suspicious of a random guy for hopping on the easy bandwagons, but not more so than other people. But again, I don't think this is scum iamp. On October 24 2012 05:23 Keirathi wrote: These are the kind of posts that are making me suspicious of iamp again. It's just so...not iamp. Town iamp doesn't give a fuck what you think about him. He explains himself when he feels like it, and doesn't care how bad the explanation is. He certainly doesnt apologize, even sarcastically. Note that you're even aware of the possibility that, because you've discussed this exact issue with him, he could just be acting differently to confuse you. I don't even know what we're arguing about at this point. I trust my ability to read iamp as the game goes on. As of right now, he hasn't shown enough in either direction for me to full say that he is scum or town, but currently leaning towards scum. | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
Guys we really need to start narrowing this down because it is majority lynch. I don't wanna no lynch day 1 cause that's terrible and gives us nothing. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:50 iamperfection wrote: It was a yes or no question not maybe or possibly If I knew you were scum, I would be voting for you. If I knew you were town, I wouldn't be having this conversation. Quit asking dumb questions. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:50 Crossfire99 wrote: Stutters are you keeping your vote on Mr. CC? I agree that his disappearance is disturbing, but I don't know if we can convince enough people to get him lynched cause it's majority lynch. Guys we really need to start narrowing this down because it is majority lynch. I don't wanna no lynch day 1 cause that's terrible and gives us nothing. We got two hours that's a life time | ||
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