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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 22:06 GMT
#761
On February 15 2013 07:02 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
randombum, you appear to be a man of integrity. At the very least, I am a fan for the time being of a gentleman who concurs with my thoughts.

austin: please phrase your enquiries in a manner that I can comprehend, it would verily be appreciated by this gentle soul.
I must protest at your assumption that everyone is a "gentleman." Surely some of the folks here aren't.

You disagree with keirathi in terms of iamperfection's meta, it seems. But do you agree with some of the points that I raised? Do you find iamperfection to be a scummy scamp or a townie scamp?



Gentlemen may have good or evil intentions, so long as they do not curse on alternate Wednesdays.

The discourse I dislike from the scamp iamp is his desire to punish Stut-utt-ers, seemingly independent of evidence whether he was good or evil. However, the tone and manner of his discourse leads me to believe his intentions are good. As mentioned, I would share my bourbon with him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 22:07 GMT
#762
Ok, first and foremost, Duck 1.

The first time I read through while keeping up with you guys, I was getting a weird vibe from iamp. This was only confirmed further looking back through.

Iamp, you seem rather concerned with how people perceive you in this game.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 15 2013 06:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Maybe you should try harder then. I'm very easy to read

However u think your case makes it more likely that your town since scum no better than to come after me.


On February 15 2013 06:31 iamperfection wrote:
What are your thoughts on me Marv?


On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.


On February 15 2013 06:50 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:47 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.


On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


On February 15 2013 06:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


My inclinations are opposite. Interesting.

Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though.


It was a yes or no question not maybe or possibly


On February 15 2013 06:53 iamperfection wrote:
And maybe you should be asking me questions to figure out my alignment cross.

Just a thought



Why is it so important for people to reveal specifically what they think of you?


As for hassy, I can really only go off of other people's previous analysis and his contribution thus far. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to lynching him as he has done nothing for town, but he probably isn't my first choice.

That said:
##unvote
##vote iamperfection
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#763
votes on sttutttters and hassy are bad. these guys haven't shown a scum mindset, stop flailing around at people who are somewhat less active (there was a time and a place for that) and let's lynch scum

I guess if you've got shit rreads then yeah ok vote the stutts. But BE AWARE that you're policy lynching the guy. I sure as hell aint gonna be policy lynching him when big G and oat-dawg are on the field.

Hassy there's a slightly better case against him but tbh it's not on par with the gonzaw scum mindset thing or just everything oatsmaster has done today.

I'm reading this austinmcc case on you now iamp. I don't know if I can ever recall him being so aggressive/useful on something
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#764
P.S.:

Marvel, you make it a pain in the ass to recap on shit. I have to read your posts 3 or 4 times to make sure I know what you're saying.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#765
On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_>


Handsome knight, would you be amenable to explaining to your fellow gentlemen precisely what you have alluded to here?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 14 2013 22:09 GMT
#766
i guess i'm not saying hassy or stutts lynch is bad per se but at least be aware that it would be a policy lynch >:|
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 22:10 GMT
#767
On February 15 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_>


Handsome knight, would you be amenable to explaining to your fellow gentlemen precisely what you have alluded to here?

and why do you want to know that?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 22:11 GMT
#768
On February 15 2013 07:10 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_>


Handsome knight, would you be amenable to explaining to your fellow gentlemen precisely what you have alluded to here?

and why do you want to know that?

Because kurumi makes it sound like sylencia's alignment can be determined based on what he's trying to get Kurumi to do with his role...
Fe fi fo fum.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 22:11 GMT
#769
On February 15 2013 07:11 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:10 iamperfection wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_>


Handsome knight, would you be amenable to explaining to your fellow gentlemen precisely what you have alluded to here?

and why do you want to know that?

Because kurumi makes it sound like sylencia's alignment can be determined based on what he's trying to get Kurumi to do with his role...

shhhhh let marv answer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 22:12 GMT
#770
On February 15 2013 07:09 Blazinghand wrote:
i guess i'm not saying hassy or stutts lynch is bad per se but at least be aware that it would be a policy lynch >:|


I disagree, sir, and if you believe so, you have not been listening to the discourse very well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 22:12 GMT
#771
Ack. Too much time talking with keirathi, I've caught the jumpiness.

There's only one answer there though.

Back in 15-20.
Fe fi fo fum.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 14 2013 22:12 GMT
#772
yeah the sylencia lynch is also bad. you're all bad
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 22:13 GMT
#773
On February 15 2013 07:12 austinmcc wrote:
Ack. Too much time talking with keirathi, I've caught the jumpiness.

There's only one answer there though.

Back in 15-20.

Ah, and now the student becomes the master!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
February 14 2013 22:15 GMT
#774
On February 15 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:09 Blazinghand wrote:
i guess i'm not saying hassy or stutts lynch is bad per se but at least be aware that it would be a policy lynch >:|


I disagree, sir, and if you believe so, you have not been listening to the discourse very well.


I've read the arguments in favor of lynching hassy and I am simply not convinced. yes, he was active in Parallel mafia and weighed on on matters of policy, interacting with brodoosks like foolishness and so on, and this time he's been an inactive ass (filter) but that doesn't make him scum. It makes him an inactive ass. Vig him or pressure him after this lynch, but this is at BEST a meta lynch based entirely on activity level and not mindset, and at worst a policy lynch of a potentially useful player.

You're just wrong.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 22:16 GMT
#775
On February 15 2013 07:12 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah the sylencia lynch is also bad. you're all bad


What's your thoughts right now BH (other than everyone is bad). Still want gonzaw dead?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 22:17 GMT
#776
On February 15 2013 07:11 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:10 iamperfection wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_>


Handsome knight, would you be amenable to explaining to your fellow gentlemen precisely what you have alluded to here?

and why do you want to know that?

Because kurumi makes it sound like sylencia's alignment can be determined based on what he's trying to get Kurumi to do with his role...


This is certainly a possibility. And Sylencia is a gentleman of interest - the gentleman kitaman raised good points about the man. At the minimum, I do not understand why some further discourse from Kurumi on the matter would hinder our comprehension.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 22:18 GMT
#777
On February 15 2013 07:15 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:09 Blazinghand wrote:
i guess i'm not saying hassy or stutts lynch is bad per se but at least be aware that it would be a policy lynch >:|


I disagree, sir, and if you believe so, you have not been listening to the discourse very well.


I've read the arguments in favor of lynching hassy and I am simply not convinced. yes, he was active in Parallel mafia and weighed on on matters of policy, interacting with brodoosks like foolishness and so on, and this time he's been an inactive ass (filter) but that doesn't make him scum. It makes him an inactive ass. Vig him or pressure him after this lynch, but this is at BEST a meta lynch based entirely on activity level and not mindset, and at worst a policy lynch of a potentially useful player.

You're just wrong.


This gentleman would contend that he is less likely to be incorrect than you, fine sir. I have, indeed, talked about the discourse from Hassybaby in this particular establishment. It is not merely a matter of recorded discourse in previous establishments.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 22:20 GMT
#778
On February 15 2013 07:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:11 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:10 iamperfection wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote:
I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_>


Handsome knight, would you be amenable to explaining to your fellow gentlemen precisely what you have alluded to here?

and why do you want to know that?

Because kurumi makes it sound like sylencia's alignment can be determined based on what he's trying to get Kurumi to do with his role...


This is certainly a possibility. And Sylencia is a gentleman of interest - the gentleman kitaman raised good points about the man. At the minimum, I do not understand why some further discourse from Kurumi on the matter would hinder our comprehension.

because well if you have to know marv just do it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 22:20 GMT
#779
that is why i thought it was weird marv
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 22:22 GMT
#780
On February 15 2013 07:20 iamperfection wrote:
that is why i thought it was weird marv


I'm not quite sure I understand, scamp?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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