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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 21:24 GMT
#701
randombum is still scummy for me, even after reading his stuff from PU. I think I'm putting that aside for now.

kita is still doing what he's been doing

stutters looks better after his response.



For now, if I were to graph the lynchability of everyone, iamperfection would be at the top of the graph/have a bunch of pie/whatever other system I used. randombum probably behind him? kita and kurumi I have to watch a little harder going forward.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#702
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.
Fe fi fo fum.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 14 2013 21:27 GMT
#703
Your question was basically "is it good to catch mafia among lurkers". Of course the answer is yes, but the way you are going about couldn't really be called strong play. You basically chose one, said that's not like him, and nothing else.
Outside of your silly non-nessecary writing style your only contribution to the game was calling out a lurker. Something that anybody could do. For a supposedly great player you have not said anything about anybody else all game.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 21:29 GMT
#704
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Maybe you should try harder then. I'm very easy to read

However u think your case makes it more likely that your town since scum no better than to come after me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 14 2013 21:29 GMT
#705
On February 15 2013 06:12 gonzaw wrote:

??
When BH made the "case" against me, you OMGUS me out of nowhere, that seemed sheeping to me.
Your previous opinion on me wasn't "original" either, since Dandel and BH had basically posted what you said earlier.



His case was some sort of meta read and how you are responding. My case was you are purposely mis-interpreting me. Those are different reasons.

On February 15 2013 06:12 gonzaw wrote:

So would you still lynch me or not? More importantly, do you think I'm scum or not? I don't care if you want to "kill me just because" or something.


I don't know if your scum or not, I'm not sure on anybody. However, you are obviously playing the game and I can't find anything that makes me convinced your scum so at the moment I'd be prepared to go after the lurkers.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#706
On February 15 2013 06:27 randombum wrote:
Your question was basically "is it good to catch mafia among lurkers". Of course the answer is yes, but the way you are going about couldn't really be called strong play. You basically chose one, said that's not like him, and nothing else.
Outside of your silly non-nessecary writing style your only contribution to the game was calling out a lurker. Something that anybody could do. For a supposedly great player you have not said anything about anybody else all game.


Perhaps you should go over the records of my discourse more thoroughly, as you are incorrect on all counts.

The gentleman Keirathi gives me slightly warmer feelings than previously with his question to austin about his case.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#707
Could we get an up to date vote count please? Would help me organize my thoughts.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#708
Also I am unlynchable austin you have to recalibrate your graph.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#709
On February 15 2013 06:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Maybe you should try harder then. I'm very easy to read

However u think your case makes it more likely that your town since scum no better than to come after me.


Except the gentleman named thrawn, or perhaps a gentleman named Hapahauli? I'm curious why you think this, sir.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#710
What are your thoughts on me Marv?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#711
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#712
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Followup. From skimming GSL , he's asking more little questions here, but again, not doing anything with them. In GSL III he made small but more than one-line posts. He had some little quips. He's down to use profanity.

He didn't really do much in the way of accusing anyone, from a quick read, other than vader7, who was our lurker D1 there.


However, Keirathi, I'd direct you to GSL Open 2. I played in that one with scum iamperfection, and the complaints I have in this game are the EXACT things that caught my eye there - + Show Spoiler +

iamperfection - Look at his filter. It's chock full of one liners, of single questions that he never follows up on. Needs to be compared against past play, but there are SO MANY one liners and dangling questions. There are very few full, original thoughts. His thrawn vote was...I guess people vote sometimes of single things they find scummy, but it felt like something that a townie would do in a rush, then later change his vote or explain his vote further. I overreacted, found that thing you did scummy, but this other guy is entirely scummy OR I overreacted and voted you for x, but then I went through your filter and, you know what, I like my vote because of x, y, z. He just NEVER gives much out in the way of thoughts, never follows up the questions he asks, I really don't love this filter.


If you check his D1 stuff there, town was dawdling around and so there was no need to get involved. He just drops one liners, questions that he doesn't follow up on.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#713
I would share my bourbon with you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#714
On February 15 2013 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:29 iamperfection wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Maybe you should try harder then. I'm very easy to read

However u think your case makes it more likely that your town since scum no better than to come after me.


Except the gentleman named thrawn, or perhaps a gentleman named Hapahauli? I'm curious why you think this, sir.

I have played with almost everyone in this game word around
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#715
Word gets around
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
February 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#716
Guys, this game is majority lynch. We totally gotta consolidate on a few people. We don't want this mess of a no lynch that's happening right now. I'm liking austin's case and am going to vote for iamp.

##Vote: iamperfection

I could be convinced to switch to Mr. CC because I am really worried about his absence. He showed up in the very beginning of the game and put down a joke vote on me and the secret ballot and just disappeared. I agree with stutters who brought this concern up. I also don't like how dandel just said don't worry about it, he's just absent. Well he's been absent all of day 1 and it's concerning me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#717
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


My inclinations are opposite. Interesting.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
February 14 2013 21:35 GMT
#718
I don't no what your smoking Austin I have been around

I post one liners deal with it
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
February 14 2013 21:35 GMT
#719
Marv, are you REQUIRED to post the way you are.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 14 2013 21:36 GMT
#720
(Also I'll note that we went through this whole song and dance about reading iamperfection in GSL III, where he was scum and iirc you found him to be his town self. Heck, he was asking you to read him so he could show how townie he was. At the very least, BECAUSE this exact same thing has come up before with half of this playerbase, he KNOWS what you're looking for, and he's fooled you before. I think basing a vote purely off meta here is da poo poo).

Given a sample of his posts, looking at just those games and not others because I don't really feel the need to go super duper far on this, we're looking at a pretty high confidence interval for pegging him as scum, imo.

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