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@ mocsta 1) I have played mafia before a long time ago 2) right now on the lynch I would like to hear from everyone 3) lurker over null 4) scum over lurker I think we need to not discuss peoples past games this early its really hard to make a read based on meta on D1 because of how little information we have to look at I understand on most day ones there really isnt anything else to talk about but this day one has a good bit of information so far and talking about past games is just adding stuff that is pure WIFOM which I agree is not helpful to good town play. its pretty much useless to everyone but scum. | ||
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catching up on the thread will be able to post opinions shorty. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 12 2013 05:12 Sn0_Man wrote: Thats a long-ass filter you just asked me to read. The short version: He made a post a while back about the difference between lynching bad town and scum, which was spot on and actually was quite opposite of what scum would be telling noobs. Plus I think that he could easily have gotten away with a much more deceptive, scum motivated theory that I don't think town would have properly analysed. Plus he has avoided making super-ultra-ridiculously BS cases (something he did a lot of last time I played with him). It isn't that I have a strong town read, but I'm definitely leaning town here. Plus I still want to lynch a lurker today and slim this down to a game where everybody is contributing. BTW Glurio is squarely on my list of lurkers right now at 2 posts (no better than the 0-posters). I bolded the odd part. Why wouldn't scum tell the town what exactly they should be looking for and just avoid exactly these things? Since Sn0 spotted the seemingly non-scum-motivated theory how come he thinks he wouldn't have spotted the much more deceptive scum-motivated theory? this is straight up WIFOM which as i think we established earlier helps scum more and is distracting to town So I would up my game if i roll scum again, but i'm not so i'm a scummy lurker? What? That doesn't even make sense. If I up my game now am i scum? If i won't i'm a scummy lurker? WIFOM and now your against WIFOM after pointing it out earlier? Now let's get to all the lurker posts, i won't quote them all, just read the filter it's most of his posts. It's the easiest thing in the world to point to lurker. Be it the no-post lurker or the few-post lurker which, according to sn0, are actually worse then the no-post lurker. Everyone can do it. I can just look into the thread every hour, post something about the guy with the lowest post count, tell everyone he only has X posts. After that i start pointing out the other lurkers, because hey don't forget about them. And then theres always the thing about recent games where at some point of the game one of the scum players lurked. If you really want me to do that, it wouldn't be a problem, but i try to actually contribute something with my posts. Not bury my filter in useless posts about lurkers. what does this actually say? im not active lurker so im not scum? I feel like your defense here is also WIFOM because you could obviously use that defense to justify real lurking. so from your case I'm getting a theme of you not saying anything substantial other than counting his posts which is scum behavior ##FOS Glurio | ||
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- why did he show all of snos post hes just trying to look like hes trying hard to scumhunt, but is the same as if we just read his filter. -his question about the bolded part of one of snos posts " Why wouldn't scum tell the town what exactly they should be looking for and just avoid exactly these things?" is just useless rhetoric and he obviously isnt trying to achieve anything with it -hes also defending himself when no case or anything was made against him so hes preemptively getting ready to be accused by pretending to have gotten attacked. lastly while he made a big case that doesnt say much he still has barely any posts so hes doing exactly what he claimed not be doing which is actively lurk. Glurio is scum ##vote: Glurio | ||
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On February 13 2013 00:07 glurio wrote: [/b]This you got wrong. Since WoS was the only one who actually called me out on my crappy case on Sn0, i have a slight town read on him. I actually wanted to see if Mandalor has got the same idea by now. ("WoS got it right", to quote myself) the only one? do you have anything to say in reply to my post? also you say you made your case only because you said you would. why would you make a case you know is weak except to try and appear like your contributing when your obviously not. | ||
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On February 13 2013 02:50 glurio wrote: Well i feel like you are really tunneling me. Nothing i'll do will please you. If i post less, i'm scum, if i get more active i changed my meta, still scum. What do you want from me? Right now i try to ask questions in mandalors direction. If he simply doesn't answer and does not give me anything to work with i really can't make a case on him right now. Are you really asking here what you can do to not be considered scum? To everyone else I am going to work and am not sure if I will be able to be on again before the vote. I will be leaving my vote on glurio because he seems the scummiest to me right now. | ||
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The only reason you think im scum is because you think a lurker is scum and while I know I havn't been very active which I will be fixing over the next days I have to ask. Why just me and glurio? your just looking at whats blaring in your face and not the whole picture. I had the confidence to share my read and kill glurios case why would scum do that? You talk about when during the day I posted my case like people normally post cases early day one when there is nothing to read which is kind of irrelavant because I posted my case after I read and reread his case. I'm going to bed now but Will be up tomorrow and will be ready to provide my opinions and takes on yesterdays last minute activity and the night that fight. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 13 2013 09:44 Sn0_Man wrote: You aren't helping yourself glurio. I think I may be willing to vote Sylencia, but my read on him is Blue or Scum, not green. I read somewhere that people who seem withdrawn and preoccupied with blue roles (like Syl was when we talked about WB's pseudo-blue claim) are often blue themselves. (Somewhere is in Ver's analysis of XXX). I really didn't want to lynch Syl because he might flip blue but his contributions haven't really been in line with what I would hope a town member would try to bring to the table. So basically, I'm willing to consolidate on Syl but I want you guys to understand the risk that he flips blue is decently high IMO. On February 13 2013 06:54 Sn0_Man wrote: Between the two of these it looks like you are saying "I'm blue but I'm not gonna out and say it". VTs traditionally have no real problem mentioning that they are VT (afaik?). You are more like "I'm town, but I won't tell you what special kind of town". Which means you are a special kind. Which is a soft claim. Even if you didn't mean it that way, at least half the thread read it that way. On February 13 2013 04:41 Sn0_Man wrote: There we go! See, I can think of an explanation for most of what Syl is doing, but I'm not going to call you out if you can't. I think WB soft-claimed, but I can definitely see how others think he didn't. I like you you picked a name, gave a real reason that was consistent with your earlier posts, and didn't even need to make it too long. Obviously this doesn't prove you are town but it certainly helps your chances of not being lynched today. For now, I won't ask more but keep in mind that we expect more of THIS POST as often as is reasonable for you to manage (I know its time consuming). On February 13 2013 06:56 Sn0_Man wrote: To further explain WB, the fact that you even went so far as to mention roles and blue and whatever looks bad. "I'm Town" looks fine and doesn't claim VT or blue, but "I won't tell you my role (other than I'm town)" looks leading/breadcrumby/soft-claim. Now I know this is kind of contradictory for me to post this night one but I was looking for someone to make a case on and tbh this is all I really noticed on you and figured I should share my thoughts before everyone assumed I had gone full on lurker when I'm really in the middle of my two busiest work days. so while you not super scummy to me I would like to know why you keep pointing this out. In my opinion you should have saved this for day2 discussion at the very least. | ||
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On February 13 2013 08:57 cDgCorazon wrote: Cause it's obvious no one is going to vote with me. Sometimes, one's agenda needs to be pushed back to benefit the group as a whole. I didn't back down before because I wasn't sure how the votes were going to be consolidated. Since it's obvious town does not want to try something different for D1, it looks like it's not going to be WB. | ||
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WaveofShadow seems to be tunneling me because he was convinced one of me or glurio is scum Sn0_Man- null reads after you explained your reasoning behind those posts I posted earlier ObviousOne -cant really say yet warbaby -leaning scum but nothing convincing tbh geript- null read zarepath - leaning town for me but that might just be because he was pointing out how WoS case didnt make a ton of sense Mocsta - talks a lot but not really sure about him cDgCorazon -would like him to explain his vote Mandalor - seems like he doesnt say much even when he posts Sylencia - null | ||
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On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote: I was getting ready to write up a post about my thoughts on everyone so far, but when I got the results of the night actions I realized that that post would probably be overshadowed when I posted this, so I scrapped it for now. I am the Tracker. As we know from the rules, the mafia chooses who will carry out each kill. From this we can conclude that the mafia will choose the player they percieve to be least suspicious on their team to carry out the kill. In an attempt to catch a potential least suspicous scum player, last night I tracked ObviousOne. The results were that he visisted WaveofShadow. This means that one of the following is true: (A) ObviousOne is a Vigilante, Jailkeeper or Watcher who targeted WaveofShadow. (B) The framer chose to frame ObviousOne for the WaveofShadow kill. (C) ObviousOne is the Nosy Neighbour and the RNG hit the 2/11 chance that he'd visit someone who was killed. (D) ObviousOne is scum or serial killer and killed WaveofShadow. A is unlikely for the following reasons. ObviousOne said himself that a Vigilante should have checked in ahead of time, making it unlikely that that is his role + Show Spoiler + On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours. B is unlikely becuase there is little reason for the mafia to think that ObviousOne will get tracked. C is unlikely mathematically. (Even if there is a 10% chance that OO is the Nosy Neighbour, a very high estimate, that means that there is a less than 2% likelihood of this occuring.) From this I conclude that ObviousOne is the serial killer or scum and killed WaveofShadow. ##Vote: ObviousOne your assuming that there isnt a scum RB and a town JK | ||
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second I would like to point out some points of concern for me on corazon 1. He didnt vote for the person he claimed was the scummiest d1 instead voting for glurio with only two votes on glurio so it was still anybodys game as to who got lynched at the time he swapped his vote. 2.this part of his recent post seemed odd because a vote for me wasnt really a non vote seeing as I was the second closest person to being lynched. WoS- I know this point has been discussed to death but I really don’t like the fact that he threw his vote away D1 (scum don’t usually care about the lynch unless it’s one of their own) and his non-vote for Sevryn was scummy as well. | ||
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On February 14 2013 11:28 TestSubject893 wrote: I'm very suspicious of Corazon too. I was thinking about writing up a case on him, the timing of that vote was just so scummy to me. I'll hold off on that for now though as I assume people will want to discuss ObviousOne and his killing of WaveofShadow last night first. Yeah I probably should have held off on making that post till we can figure out if OO has a counter claim or anything | ||
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On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote: Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null. I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante. I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier. I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role. I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet. why didnt you claim it since vigis are one shot making you a VT now? | ||
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On February 14 2013 11:50 Mocsta wrote: I have serious problems with this claim as TestSubject pointed out. Then there is: Now, i said @ 10:03 it is SAFE TO SPEAK UP, you are now VT note @ 10:23 ObviousOne says ##Vote: ObviousOne You just fucked up majorly Mr.SK Hey mocsta why did you say mr. sk but not scum? do you already know he isn't scum? | ||
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On February 14 2013 12:22 Mocsta wrote: Hi Mr. lurker, Well I didnt think he was scum before the killing, so wasn't a natural thought to assume he is scum now. Either way; I am certain he is scum/SK now; and should be the lynch candidate for today. Are you going to continue lurking and taking snipes? Or are you going to join town and rid us of EVIL !! hey im working on not lurking and have posted my views on corazon which I would love to hear what you think about it. if we decide to lynch OO which I think we should We have Two whole days to talk about who to lynch next which is a huge bonus. i do think we should stay away from arguements that involve speculating on what his flip means till he flips that way we dont get distracted on what it means. | ||
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and im going to bed and will be back for an hour or so in the morning and then after work tommorow evening. | ||
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On February 16 2013 00:51 Sn0_Man wrote: What I want to know is why does Sevryn get such an utter free ride from so many people (especially mocsta/Cora)? Sure people mention his name when they call our low contribution members, but when its down to who might be scum, his name never even pops up... I actually noticed this when I was reading the thread from yesterday But now I cant find the post that had a list of who all was the scum and my name just wasn't in the list which seemed kind of odd seeing how I was to being lynched d1 | ||
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On February 16 2013 02:00 Sn0_Man wrote: How non-alignment indicative of you to comment... I mean, for crying out loud make posts that help town. Just woke up and had just finished reading the thread for the first time its going to take me a few to reread the posts that were made yesterday and get some caffeine in my body. | ||
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On February 15 2013 12:13 cDgCorazon wrote: Yeah I think I'll hold off on the case. Let's hope the hosts decide to end this quickly. ##Vote: ObviousOne this post and he one where mocsta asked for a shorter day kind of strike me as odd. I know he said that other games have asked for it but we are not other games. there is a real chance we will be at lylo tommorow So why are poeple in favor of less time for town to discuss when we have a ton of candidates who people think are scummy and nobody who is heads and shoulders above anyone else in scumminess. | ||
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starts off with some posts about lurkers jumps onto the WoS wagon apologizes for being inactive a good bit which could be lurker or he might just be that busy not really sure. hopefully he will post more this weekend. soft defends warbaby from syl On February 12 2013 23:36 Mandalor wrote: another reason why sylencia's behavior so far is weird, especially since I have him in mind as a competent player. Since I'll be here for another 30 minutes I might as well do that analysis. Sadly, I fell for it as well. Reaction to zarepath's experiment of a fake case on WoS in order of posts: warbaby: FoS, no reasons given cDgCorazon: Likes part of the case, but it's not enough for him to vote WoS. Also critisizes parts of zare's analysis. Mocsta: Likes the case somewhat, wants to wait for WoS' defense Sevryn: Likes the case, feels like zare missed something warbaby: FoS, doesn't really comment on the case despite being asked about it and votes a lurker. Unvotes and FoSes (or sth) WoS Mandalor: FoS, likes the analysis of WoS' 6th post. Well, dammit :D Sn0_Man: Likes the case, but is not willing to vote an active player unless we get a really solid case. Really doesn't like WoS' defense. WaveOfShadow: Likes the case (funny enough), votes Macheji geript: Votes WoS (the only one to do so), feels WoS didn't contribute at all and his voting does not align with his reads If anyone feels like I'm being unfair in the assessment, let me know. It's really just tl;dr versions of your posts as I read them. posted list of reactions to WoS case which isnt something you couldnt find out for yourself. keeps asking people to ask him questions instead of making a case. | ||
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On February 12 2013 08:55 Sylencia wrote: Currently at work - I can answer questions and make shallow comments about posts but I can't go too indepth with analysis at the moment (though this part has never really been a strong point of mine in these games) Lowering expectations of how good they will be at scumhunting and then the 5 posts on D1 about blue claims and the like which really only helps scum on D1 On February 13 2013 09:21 Sylencia wrote: I've only checked a few filters unfortunately (bad play by me) but from those I've checked I'm going to still stick with my suspicion on Warbaby. I've tunneled on him a little bit too much though... another post admitting to being a bad player and altogether undermining thier own stance on things which is a great tactic if later your going to have to go back on your reads. real easy to go "I told you guys I was bad at scum hunting" looking through the whole filter I just see a lot of answering direct questions and no real cases. | ||
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On February 16 2013 12:15 warbaby wrote: I'd be overjoyed other two responded as such (or made just make post in the first place). But yeah I'm highlighting sylencia for now. Maybe that's wrong, since sevryn did help mislynch glurio. Sevryn states here that he voted glurio because glurio made a crappy case, and because he thought I was getting too much attention? Those are some pretty bad reasons to vote someone when there are lurkers about. Glurio was a lurker. maybe not the worst but at the time he was the scummiest to me on my posts I think that glurio is the bigger lurker but syls posts just looks much more scummy to me. there is a differance to not being here and being here but making yourself look not that helpfull on purpose so people dont expect much from you. that said I wouldnt be suprised if they were both scum however syl atm looks to me more likely | ||
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On February 16 2013 13:54 Sylencia wrote: Sorry guys, wasn't around last night. Corazon: I'm still sure that Warbaby is scum, potential slip during day 2, one of the weirdest statements I've read during day 1, and he's now also claimed I've fake roleblock claimed. Remember when you were scum and you managed to slip under the radar for another 3 days while we flailed around until the other scum kind of screwed up your plans? This is something I don't want to let happen again. Sevryn: It's not like I'm even talking about my level of scumhunting wihtout backup - you can check my filters for the other 3 games I've been in. How many cases have I truly brought up? Not too many. You guys all mention how I talk about the potential blue claim for quite a while on Day 1 - I didn't even say it's likely he's blue unless it's a Vig. talking about it at all isnt really something thats good for down it can only help scum on Day 1 | ||
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On February 16 2013 14:00 warbaby wrote: Sevryn, I've been working on the assumption that there are 3 scum. Let's assume you're right that sylencia and Mandalor are scum. Who do you think the 3rd scum could be? Do you think any of the active players have been attacking you harder than sylencia and Mandlor, because they know you're the one remaining town lurker? Does anyone think we can extend this hypothetical to scenarios where sevryn and sylencia are scum? Or sevryn and mandalor? My point is that if two lurkers are scum, then one active player is scum, and perhaps we can spot a difference between the way active players have been treating the different lurkers. Nobody thats still alive. | ||
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ahh no that was too the second question. if we assume that there are three scum I would probably say you cora are at the top of my list which would go 1. cora 2. warbaby 3.mocsta/sno 4.zera 5.TS who is confirmed town? that actually makes me wonder is there a scenario where TS isnt confirmed townie? | ||
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On February 16 2013 15:03 Sylencia wrote: How is reasoning someone is potentially scum good for scum? If OO was scum, possibly could make a case where TS isn't confirmed, but it'd be the greatest shot in the dark if TS guessed OO did something, seeing as how he was SK and so scum have no info as to who that is. talking about blues is good for scum not who is scum | ||
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On February 17 2013 10:11 cDgCorazon wrote: Well I doubt Sevryn is going to come out of his hiding place unless we smoke him out: ##Vote: Sevryn Tell us why we should lynch someone else and not you. I made a post about the other two lurkers my times I'm able to be on are a little different than most people but that doesnt mean I'm hardcore lurking mandalor is the lurkiest but syl is the scummiest IMO so if you want to smoke somebody out why woudlnt you go for the least active this seems to me almost like an OMGUS from the previous night and my posts about you. WB that is the deffinition of sheeping voting with someone without giving your own reasons I know you said you thought I was the scummiest but your whole case is cherry picking my filter I have made good constructive posts and you have just ignored them. you want me to go through your whole filter and post all the zero content posts? right now my current scum team read is 1.syl 2.Cora 3.wb in that order | ||
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On February 17 2013 14:13 cDgCorazon wrote: It's not hard to say that Mandalor and Sylencia are scum. We are all suspicious of them. We're not going for the least active person, as far as I'm concerned, you all have the same level of activity: inactivity. We are trying to lynch the scummiest person, and I think it's you. We have three different regions in this game: USA, Australia, and Europe (and Lesotho). There is always someone on, and you can always post when people are asleep. I'm saying you haven't scum hunted because all your ideas are not original. For example, your arguments about me are taken from a general consensus that was given N1 (that my vote for Glurio was suspicious), and from what TestSubject had tunneled me all of D2 about. You haven't brought anything to the table. Taking other people's ideas and rewriting them as your own is not original content. It's looking like you are scumhunting without doing actual scumhunting. I've challenged you to make a case on me. All you have done since is run away and hide from my challenge. Why is that so? @all: Do you agree with my point about Sevryn's cases being unoriginal, or would someone else disagree? my case on glurio was unoriginal? Im not proud that I got another townie lynched but atleast I was trying to find scum | ||
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On February 17 2013 14:13 cDgCorazon wrote: It's not hard to say that Mandalor and Sylencia are scum. We are all suspicious of them. We're not going for the least active person, as far as I'm concerned, you all have the same level of activity: inactivity. We are trying to lynch the scummiest person, and I think it's you. We have three different regions in this game: USA, Australia, and Europe (and Lesotho). There is always someone on, and you can always post when people are asleep. I'm saying you haven't scum hunted because all your ideas are not original. For example, your arguments about me are taken from a general consensus that was given N1 (that my vote for Glurio was suspicious), and from what TestSubject had tunneled me all of D2 about. You haven't brought anything to the table. Taking other people's ideas and rewriting them as your own is not original content. It's looking like you are scumhunting without doing actual scumhunting. I've challenged you to make a case on me. All you have done since is run away and hide from my challenge. Why is that so? @all: Do you agree with my point about Sevryn's cases being unoriginal, or would someone else disagree? I was asked why I am less scummy than the "other" two lurkers/ how about your reads? who do you think the scum team is? you think its all lurkers? | ||
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On February 17 2013 14:30 cDgCorazon wrote: Once again... If you think I'm scum, make the case. Find points that make me look scummy that haven't been talked about already. Contribute to the scum hunt. I will throw that right back at you you never give examples you say that I am full of broken promises. like what? show me why im scummy dont just say YOUR SO SCUMMY PROVE YOUR NOT. im going to try to get who I think is most likely scum lynched today what you do is your own choice but I would try to find scum by making a really case. but as to scum hunting let me ask you a question. Why do you think im more scummy than scy have you looked at his filter? | ||
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On February 17 2013 15:00 cDgCorazon wrote: Alright, you want my logic as to why you are scum? 1. Your filter is 3 pages long. It's D3. You are lurking. LOL mandalor and syls filters are shorter than mine and yet im the one you vote on to get activity out of? 2. Your arguments are either unoriginal or not very well reasoned. a. Your case on Glurio wasn't well thought out (it described the actions of other players) and you still went a long with it this is just as much a point against you. b. Your case on me was a rehash of what TS and Geript said. hey if something is true its true 3. You've only made two arguments the whole game. You're not scumhunting. right now im making an argument with you about why your focusing me when syl is a much scummier option 4. I have to vote for you to come out and defend yourself. You've made about 30% of your posts in the past couple of hours only after I voted for you. Why does someone need to pressure you for you to come out and post? this is just downright false. its a lot closer too 9-10% why would you lie about this? All three of you guys are lurking. To figure out who is scum and who isn't, we need to delve into deeper reasoning such as this. I've already pressured Sylencia to make another read besides Warbaby. There's still 43 hours left in this day, so there is plenty of time for me to change my vote if I see fit. aparently you have to vote to pressure people so why didnt you vote sylencia? this is the scummies reasons ive scene to think I'm the scummiest of the lurkers if we lynch syl today(which I think we should) when they flip scum your going to be next for soft defending them like this when you have no reason too other than being scum buddies. | ||
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On February 17 2013 15:14 cDgCorazon wrote: I didn't need to vote Syl to get him to talk more. He's starting to talk more as well. As you (hopefully have read), my order of scummiest lurker is you, then syl, then Mandalor. It's up to you to change it. Threatening me with voting me off is not going to help you. where show me where syl is being productive and sharing their reads. obviously you havnt read my filter if you thought I had made one third of my posts today so why did you say that? just guessing it was a third? | ||
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On February 15 2013 09:16 Sylencia wrote: How is it possible to say for certain that there's only a mafia roleblocker, when we don't know if it was a JK or a RB? On February 16 2013 15:03 Sylencia wrote: How is reasoning someone is potentially scum good for scum? If OO was scum, possibly could make a case where TS isn't confirmed, but it'd be the greatest shot in the dark if TS guessed OO did something, seeing as how he was SK and so scum have no info as to who that is. On February 17 2013 10:38 Sylencia wrote: Right now, I don't even think they're roleblocking to block a blue - they're roleblocking me to make it seem like I'm fake claiming. Pretty sure I haven't left any unintentional breadcrumbs, the only time I've mentioned anything about my role is back at the end of Night 1, where I said "I'm not blue". On February 17 2013 10:59 Sylencia wrote: Yeah, I can understand it happening once - I was considering it myself when I was scum. But why twice? And as I just said, this is the exact reaction that the scum want from me having to claim RB twice. On February 17 2013 10:26 Sylencia wrote: Who was roleblocked - seeing as it's confirmed that it's scum RB now since they didn't protect TU (unless they're playing to try make me a liar) On February 17 2013 10:27 Sylencia wrote: Never mind - I was roleblocked again. On February 17 2013 10:31 Sylencia wrote: I checked the forums on my phone, which doesn't have me logged in - I hopped on the computer and typed it out before even noticing the new PM. these are syls 11 posts since thursday syls being roleblocked claims: why would scum roleblock two days in a row? pretty much all WIFOM about what would look the least suspisious. sly then says that the scum are roleblocking him to make it seem suspisious which looks to me like "look how town I am im pointing out why my claim is odd" but is pretty much all WIFOM and and a pretty empty post(as are most of slys posts). this whole game slys has been pointing out even pointing at thier meta how unhelpful a townie they are and that they are not good at making cases or figuring out anything on their own. his last post is just talking about lurkers honestly as I have said before syl plays like one giant excuse and the only reason I can see for pointing out how weak any case you would make would be is to set it up if you do make a case and the lynchie gets flipped townie that you obviously didnt know what you were doing and you shouldnt have been taken seriously which is a really scummy attitude. | ||
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On February 17 2013 18:46 Mocsta wrote: Whoah whoah, take a step back sunshine. You're not in a position to be questioning others. It works like this Mr.Lurker. We question you and your motives. OR You build a case on someone, that we pick to shreds to find out if you are bullshitting. The "case" you wrote on Sylencia is pretty hard to read; and reads as a summary post to me. I want to see some analysis on why the things you are raising have to be from scum; and not from town. so sharing your reads and answering questions is something people who are on 24/7 dont have to do? | ||
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Sylencia here are my thoughts after reading his filter Sylencia starts off by posting the chances of hitting town with RNG lynch making it clear he is not going to scumhunt and instead getting ezpz town cred. States the obvious with warbabys claim that we all knew. talked definitivly with "when he doesnt die on night 1" which leads me to think he had knowledge of the kill target. than he continues with more talk of warbaby with some setup speculation thrown in there. where is the scum hunting? these are just empty posts that he doesn't take anywhere. All of his pressure on Warbaby is summaries of his play no questioning his motives with OMGUS posts which is just classic scum play. Of course town will survival vote but it is much better to play more town oriented and not have to rely on it. because hey(scum will survival vote as well) He automatically decides its a scum RB. how does he know the JK doesnt exist while the RB does? he also points out a frame possibility which seems kind of odd if I was RB I wouldn't think "ohh this is me being frameda obviously" first. why is he ready to speculate about things he couldn't possibly know as town? All game he tunnels warbaby(while applying very weak pressure) with a foundation of a scum slip which is a really weak case that gets dismissed which is perfect for scum to look like they are contributing. makes a big post about the RB person to step up right before saying he got blocked a sec afterwards. and then we are right back to the being framed thing. so basically sylencia has no real contributions. He has had a game of weak tunneling on warbaby with no real pressure and the rest is setup/role speculation with no outcome or saying he has been roleblocked and framed to be scum. You can have problems with my play but I have tried to be heard when my posts are getting ignored. you attack me because I put what I think outthere and you dont like my opinion. with syl he is just blending in. its probably LYLO and he isn't doing anything to help town. We need to lynch this scum ##vote sylencia | ||
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On February 19 2013 00:52 Sylencia wrote: 1) Explaining how RNG is not beneficial does not give town cred, it's a completely neutral observation which anyone can and would've made. 2) Remember I was already being looked at as being suspicious. If I was scum, there's no way I'd be given the order to shoot. Jailkeeper, assuming decent deduction ability, would have a lot more options other than myself as to who to block. Knowing that I'm probably not taking the shot, there's a higher chance that they should protect the one they want not to die. Also, how is it ever LYLO with 8 players alive? 5:3, 6:2 are the only combinations that are possible/legitimate possibilities. Are you trying to turn the MYLO situation into a LYLO situation so that people panic and decide they need to vote? Nice try. when you looked at RNG you looked at chance to hit town not scum which means you were NEVER looking to hunt scum the JK stuff is WIFOM but you have been corrected for false info having false info more than once is just intentional also the LYLO and MYLO stuff is just me not knowing all the terms I though they were just a different way to say the same thing it definitely is MYLO and we could vote no lynch but no lynch only works if your innocent and right now your defense looks scummy as hell with all the OMGUS) and no lynch should be brought up closer to the time cutoff | ||
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On February 19 2013 10:15 warbaby wrote: If you knew you were not able to play, you should have requested a replacement. Mandalore posted once in 4 days. Can you please replace or modkill him? For reference, here are the timestamps for his last two posts: February 15 2013 07:57 February 19 2013 09:14 According to the rules, players must post once per day and night cycle, and I believe Mandalor failed to post during N2. day and night cycle is the whole day plus night. also if mandalor is town and gets mod killed we lose. assuming 3 scum | ||
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if we have a JK which is pretty much our only hope please protect someone who is going to get shot its all in your hands | ||
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