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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 17:27 GMT
#3401
OK, when two strong players reach the same conclusion on the same data, it's weak.

You must be right, I concede the point.
Artanis & marv
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21948 Posts
January 28 2013 17:29 GMT
#3402
Kinda hard to believe considering what you did to Chez. You might just be wrong about austin, but I don't see much reason to not lynch him.

He's started with high activity, longish posts, supported gonzaw, was supported by Chez and gonzaw.
Now he delurks instantly when called out to claim a reason for why he's never going to be shot.

His overall activity dropped off in a really visible way.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 17:32 GMT
#3403
On January 29 2013 02:27 FiveTouch wrote:
OK, when two strong players reach the same conclusion on the same data, it's weak.

You must be right, I concede the point.

The only way you're right is if there's another mafia on Gonzaw, because that would give mafia no logical options to get him elected with.

prplhz was on you, wasting his vote intentionally.

Chezinu moved his vote around, ending up on Gonzaw.

Gonzaw was on himself.

Where were the other 2 votes, if mafia was actually invested in getting Gonzaw elected?

Do you really think Mocsta and Axle are mafia?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 17:34 GMT
#3404
Or clarity is mafia, because he didn't vote.
Writer@WriterYamato
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 17:35 GMT
#3405
On January 29 2013 02:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:27 FiveTouch wrote:
OK, when two strong players reach the same conclusion on the same data, it's weak.

You must be right, I concede the point.

The only way you're right is if there's another mafia on Gonzaw, because that would give mafia no logical options to get him elected with.

prplhz was on you, wasting his vote intentionally.

Chezinu moved his vote around, ending up on Gonzaw.

Gonzaw was on himself.

Where were the other 2 votes, if mafia was actually invested in getting Gonzaw elected?

Do you really think Mocsta and Axle are mafia?


You understand that not only mafia get to vote right? By austin standing he's leeching town votes as well as mafia votes. Anyone on austin could have voted gonzaw if he'd taken himself out the running. Especially as austin had supported gonzaw.

Sigh. There's a whole bunch of people telling me I might be wrong on this, so I'm going to avoid doing my Oats thing and look again at austin.
Artanis & marv
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 17:37 GMT
#3406
You can't reliably say that the town votes on Austin would have gone to Gonzaaw, or vice-versa, if you're the mafia team on day 1.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 17:41 GMT
#3407
What's troubling to me in this situation is that you're willing to overlook his repeated defenses of prplhz day 1 and his defenses and townreads on Gonzaw day 2. Those are like two gigantic blips on my scumdar.
Writer@WriterYamato
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 17:42 GMT
#3408
On January 29 2013 02:37 yamato77 wrote:
You can't reliably say that the town votes on Austin would have gone to Gonzaaw, or vice-versa, if you're the mafia team on day 1.


No, but it's much how the presidential elections in France usually work. There's the right-centre candidate, the socialist type candidate, and the far-right candidate.

Usually in their elections the far-right candidate gets elected in the first round of voting, and their votes go over to the right-centre candidate. I'd anticipate similar would happen here, especially as austin had given hearty support to gonzaw.

Anyway I'll think about it later when I'm not supposed to be working.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 17:42 GMT
#3409
EBWOP: *the far-right candidate gets *eliminated*
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 17:46 GMT
#3410
Also, if we do somehow have a vigi/joat with a bullet, they should obviously be shooting at austin.
Artanis & marv
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 28 2013 18:06 GMT
#3411
Based off austins first couple of days, I found him quite town.

Not sure if pure association is enough to overrule that read
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 28 2013 18:09 GMT
#3412
Also lynching austin over stutters and fuba would be bad.

We don't have reasons for findding stuts or fubs town, yet there are indicators that austin is town
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 18:12 GMT
#3413
Going through austin's filter at work because I'm naughty. I found this:

On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,

Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez?


Hi probable townie, given you want another townie with bodyguards (toad), why don't you move your vote off mafia and on to this townie?
Artanis & marv
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 18:23 GMT
#3414
Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote.
Writer@WriterYamato
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 28 2013 18:24 GMT
#3415
Yes, and in doing so trying to get him to move his vote off mafia and on to a (presumed) townie.
Artanis & marv
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 28 2013 18:29 GMT
#3416
Something we should keep in mind with austin

Gonz was jack mason

I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 28 2013 18:29 GMT
#3417
On January 29 2013 03:23 yamato77 wrote:
Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote.
You should be looking harder at my filter. That post is immediately followed, in the same conversation, with:
On January 22 2013 08:17 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:
On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,

Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez?


I try to lie a lot and attract attention to me by playing inconsistently so that I can lead my scumbuddies to victory obviously, why do you ask?


Until Toad gets another vote you'll be sheriff top candidate if I switch to Toad (you still are cause you got majority first I think). So my vote stays where it is. Pointless question, I already said why I switched to Chez before.

I'm writing a JX analysis.

You put your vote on Chezinu, who would be the second player to have 4. That didn't change anything, unless you have a magical plan to move multiple votes around, which would make you scum. I don't actually think you're scum this game, but I can't get a handle on your play.

If you want Toad to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. If you want not-me to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. So you've taken an action that does nothing, really, unless you can move more votes. And the action you took was wrong for you if you can move more votes, because you want toad and not chezinu. So...I are confused.

Fe fi fo fum.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 18:29 GMT
#3418
Cntrl + F on Austin's filter reveals his thoughts about Chezinu:

He was a good mayor candidate.

People are stupid for discrediting him.

Stutters was scum for attacking him.

Hm.

Is it just a coincidence that Austin is associated heavily with all three flipped mafia?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 18:30 GMT
#3419
On January 29 2013 03:29 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 03:23 yamato77 wrote:
Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote.
You should be looking harder at my filter. That post is immediately followed, in the same conversation, with:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 08:17 austinmcc wrote:
On January 22 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:
On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,

Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez?


I try to lie a lot and attract attention to me by playing inconsistently so that I can lead my scumbuddies to victory obviously, why do you ask?


Until Toad gets another vote you'll be sheriff top candidate if I switch to Toad (you still are cause you got majority first I think). So my vote stays where it is. Pointless question, I already said why I switched to Chez before.

I'm writing a JX analysis.

You put your vote on Chezinu, who would be the second player to have 4. That didn't change anything, unless you have a magical plan to move multiple votes around, which would make you scum. I don't actually think you're scum this game, but I can't get a handle on your play.

If you want Toad to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. If you want not-me to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. So you've taken an action that does nothing, really, unless you can move more votes. And the action you took was wrong for you if you can move more votes, because you want toad and not chezinu. So...I are confused.


You're not helping yourself with this delurking business.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 28 2013 18:32 GMT
#3420
Marv, it appears you have a parrot named debears.

I guess we'll find out how much thread clout you have.
Writer@WriterYamato
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