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On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long
they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though.
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On January 29 2013 03:30 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:29 austinmcc wrote:On January 29 2013 03:23 yamato77 wrote:
Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote. You should be looking harder at my filter. That post is immediately followed, in the same conversation, with: On January 22 2013 08:17 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,
Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez? I try to lie a lot and attract attention to me by playing inconsistently so that I can lead my scumbuddies to victory obviously, why do you ask? Until Toad gets another vote you'll be sheriff top candidate if I switch to Toad (you still are cause you got majority first I think). So my vote stays where it is. Pointless question, I already said why I switched to Chez before. I'm writing a JX analysis. You put your vote on Chezinu, who would be the second player to have 4. That didn't change anything, unless you have a magical plan to move multiple votes around, which would make you scum. I don't actually think you're scum this game, but I can't get a handle on your play. If you want Toad to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. If you want not-me to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. So you've taken an action that does nothing, really, unless you can move more votes. And the action you took was wrong for you if you can move more votes, because you want toad and not chezinu. So...I are confused. You're not helping yourself with this delurking business.
So if he lurks, he's scum.
If he delurks he's scum.
Rethink your arguments yamato
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On January 29 2013 03:34 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:30 yamato77 wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 austinmcc wrote:On January 29 2013 03:23 yamato77 wrote:
Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote. You should be looking harder at my filter. That post is immediately followed, in the same conversation, with: On January 22 2013 08:17 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,
Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez? I try to lie a lot and attract attention to me by playing inconsistently so that I can lead my scumbuddies to victory obviously, why do you ask? Until Toad gets another vote you'll be sheriff top candidate if I switch to Toad (you still are cause you got majority first I think). So my vote stays where it is. Pointless question, I already said why I switched to Chez before. I'm writing a JX analysis. You put your vote on Chezinu, who would be the second player to have 4. That didn't change anything, unless you have a magical plan to move multiple votes around, which would make you scum. I don't actually think you're scum this game, but I can't get a handle on your play. If you want Toad to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. If you want not-me to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. So you've taken an action that does nothing, really, unless you can move more votes. And the action you took was wrong for you if you can move more votes, because you want toad and not chezinu. So...I are confused. You're not helping yourself with this delurking business. So if he lurks, he's scum. If he delurks he's scum. Rethink your arguments yamato
He's delurking solely to defend himself from the possibility of being lynched.
Don't be intentionally blind, debears.
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On January 29 2013 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though.
They had to decide by the start of n1.
Austin was pretty townish in my books heading into n1. Why not give him the godfather mason over chez?
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On January 29 2013 03:35 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:34 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:30 yamato77 wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 austinmcc wrote:On January 29 2013 03:23 yamato77 wrote:
Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote. You should be looking harder at my filter. That post is immediately followed, in the same conversation, with: On January 22 2013 08:17 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,
Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez? I try to lie a lot and attract attention to me by playing inconsistently so that I can lead my scumbuddies to victory obviously, why do you ask? Until Toad gets another vote you'll be sheriff top candidate if I switch to Toad (you still are cause you got majority first I think). So my vote stays where it is. Pointless question, I already said why I switched to Chez before. I'm writing a JX analysis. You put your vote on Chezinu, who would be the second player to have 4. That didn't change anything, unless you have a magical plan to move multiple votes around, which would make you scum. I don't actually think you're scum this game, but I can't get a handle on your play. If you want Toad to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. If you want not-me to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. So you've taken an action that does nothing, really, unless you can move more votes. And the action you took was wrong for you if you can move more votes, because you want toad and not chezinu. So...I are confused. You're not helping yourself with this delurking business. So if he lurks, he's scum. If he delurks he's scum. Rethink your arguments yamato He's delurking solely to defend himself from the possibility of being lynched. Don't be intentionally blind, debears.
Town or scum do that. Rethink this
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On January 29 2013 03:35 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though. They had to decide by the start of n1. Austin was pretty townish in my books heading into n1. Why not give him the godfather mason over chez?
Because Chez is way more likely to be checked than austin, for a start. That's not a good argument.
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On January 29 2013 03:30 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:29 austinmcc wrote:On January 29 2013 03:23 yamato77 wrote:
Looks more like he's attacking Vivax than trying to get him to move his vote. You should be looking harder at my filter. That post is immediately followed, in the same conversation, with: On January 22 2013 08:17 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,
Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez? I try to lie a lot and attract attention to me by playing inconsistently so that I can lead my scumbuddies to victory obviously, why do you ask? Until Toad gets another vote you'll be sheriff top candidate if I switch to Toad (you still are cause you got majority first I think). So my vote stays where it is. Pointless question, I already said why I switched to Chez before. I'm writing a JX analysis. You put your vote on Chezinu, who would be the second player to have 4. That didn't change anything, unless you have a magical plan to move multiple votes around, which would make you scum. I don't actually think you're scum this game, but I can't get a handle on your play. If you want Toad to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. If you want not-me to be sheriff, then voting chezinu doesn't help. So you've taken an action that does nothing, really, unless you can move more votes. And the action you took was wrong for you if you can move more votes, because you want toad and not chezinu. So...I are confused. You're not helping yourself with this delurking business.
Am I supposed to respond "you're not helping yourself with your tunneling"?
Look at the post that follows. Do you believe that, in context, the first post reads like I was attacking Vivax, or am I actually trying to get him to move his vote/figure out why his vote is where his vote is? If it's the latter, then, at least in the case of that post, you misread it because you did not misread it in context.
On January 29 2013 03:29 yamato77 wrote:
Is it just a coincidence that Austin is associated heavily with all three flipped mafia?
What do you think? Do you believe I associated myself heavily with 3/4 my team? Does that match up with how I have played scum in other games? If not, am I just playing opposite game to screw with your head? (Was scum in Aperture 2 and replacement scum in Chrono Trigger).
On January 29 2013 03:35 yamato77 wrote:
He's delurking solely to defend himself from the possibility of being lynched.
He's actually delurking to try and get this done so we can have better lynch candidates come D4, when we can actually lynch.
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On January 29 2013 03:36 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:35 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though. They had to decide by the start of n1. Austin was pretty townish in my books heading into n1. Why not give him the godfather mason over chez? Because Chez is way more likely to be checked than austin, for a start. That's not a good argument.
My point is that I find it morr likely for sxum to rely on austin over chez going into lategame one member down
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On January 29 2013 03:40 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:36 FiveTouch wrote:On January 29 2013 03:35 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though. They had to decide by the start of n1. Austin was pretty townish in my books heading into n1. Why not give him the godfather mason over chez? Because Chez is way more likely to be checked than austin, for a start. That's not a good argument. My point is that I find it morr likely for sxum to rely on austin over chez going into lategame one member down
I'd say the opposite. Chez is way more of a vet and at the same time you can't pull those "why is chez still around" arguments on chez unlike you could do on someone like marv / bugs / sandro surviving longer than they should.
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Yes, I think your associations with the three flipped mafia make you mafia. Asserting otherwise is delving into pure WIFOM.
I refuse to believe that it's just a coincidence that you happened to have multiple positive mentions of all three flipped mafia players. I can barely find a bad word about them.
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On January 29 2013 03:46 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, I think your associations with the three flipped mafia make you mafia. Asserting otherwise is delving into pure WIFOM.
I refuse to believe that it's just a coincidence that you happened to have multiple positive mentions of all three flipped mafia players. I can barely find a bad word about them. Okay.
Do you believe that first quote to be me attacking vivax, or me trying to figure out why he's voting Chezinu?
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On January 29 2013 03:43 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:40 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:36 FiveTouch wrote:On January 29 2013 03:35 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though. They had to decide by the start of n1. Austin was pretty townish in my books heading into n1. Why not give him the godfather mason over chez? Because Chez is way more likely to be checked than austin, for a start. That's not a good argument. My point is that I find it morr likely for sxum to rely on austin over chez going into lategame one member down I'd say the opposite. Chez is way more of a vet and at the same time you can't pull those "why is chez still around" arguments on chez unlike you could do on someone like marv / bugs / sandro surviving longer than they should.
True.
What's really irking me is that they made chez a mason, yet chez never went thru with his plan stated in pregame, which outted him as mafia.
Especially when chez told me that plan.
Makes it seem like mafia are in a decent position for chez to throw himself like that
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On January 29 2013 03:50 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:43 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:40 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:36 FiveTouch wrote:On January 29 2013 03:35 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though. They had to decide by the start of n1. Austin was pretty townish in my books heading into n1. Why not give him the godfather mason over chez? Because Chez is way more likely to be checked than austin, for a start. That's not a good argument. My point is that I find it morr likely for sxum to rely on austin over chez going into lategame one member down I'd say the opposite. Chez is way more of a vet and at the same time you can't pull those "why is chez still around" arguments on chez unlike you could do on someone like marv / bugs / sandro surviving longer than they should. True. What's really irking me is that they made chez a mason, yet chez never went thru with his plan stated in pregame, which outted him as mafia. Especially when chez told me that plan. Makes it seem like mafia are in a decent position for chez to throw himself like that
Chezinu didn't become mayor, which was part of his pre-game plan, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. That's not why Chezinu is mafia.
Mafia need 5 mislynches from now to win, they're in a terrible position.
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On January 29 2013 03:53 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 03:50 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:43 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:40 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:36 FiveTouch wrote:On January 29 2013 03:35 debears wrote:On January 29 2013 03:33 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2013 03:29 debears wrote:
Something we should keep in mind with austin
Gonz was jack mason
I would think mafia woild try to get him into office with his role
Chez was godfather, meaning they most likely didn't want him in office (dt immunity)
Prp was a goon, meaning they didn't expect him to last long they can decide their roles after seeing how it works though. Agree with marvs find though. They had to decide by the start of n1. Austin was pretty townish in my books heading into n1. Why not give him the godfather mason over chez? Because Chez is way more likely to be checked than austin, for a start. That's not a good argument. My point is that I find it morr likely for sxum to rely on austin over chez going into lategame one member down I'd say the opposite. Chez is way more of a vet and at the same time you can't pull those "why is chez still around" arguments on chez unlike you could do on someone like marv / bugs / sandro surviving longer than they should. True. What's really irking me is that they made chez a mason, yet chez never went thru with his plan stated in pregame, which outted him as mafia. Especially when chez told me that plan. Makes it seem like mafia are in a decent position for chez to throw himself like that Chezinu didn't become mayor, which was part of his pre-game plan, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. That's not why Chezinu is mafia. Mafia need 5 mislynches from now to win, they're in a terrible position.
Let me explain this way
1) they gave chez a mason role day 1
2) chez told yamato his mason plan witb contacting the mayor
3) chez didn't contact 5touch day 1
4) chez masoned me, told me about the mason plan, and told me he didn't mason 5touch once he became mayor
5) I tell the thread he's mason
6) yamato and I realize he didn't follow thru with his plan
7) lynched
Follow me?
Chezinu pretty much claimed scum by telling his mason plan and then not masoning according to his plan
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Hmm. I follow. It wasn't why I was lynching him though, but ok 
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still waiting on that explanation for checking bugs.
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On January 29 2013 04:02 FiveTouch wrote:Hmm. I follow. It wasn't why I was lynching him though, but ok
So my point is from that,
Why would they give chez godfather mason over austin if austin was scum?
Itd be much smarter to not give chez a role that would instantly out himself as scum
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That just means Chezinu fucked up, nothing more nothing less
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FT: What do you think makes me scum except ignoring Vivax discussion d3? If you think I've been playing a scum game so far, why would I come out and admit I hadn't read something instead of just not commenting? There was zero reason for me to ask that excerpt to satiate my own curiosity. It would have been much safer to not say anything if I had nothing to hide. Seems like an incredibly drastic change from before the flip from not mentioning me at all before bke flipped town.
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On January 29 2013 02:12 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I have my logs but they really, really don't matter.
Would you mind posting them anyway before the daypost?
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