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On January 29 2013 11:02 warbaby wrote:
##Vote: Acid~
I still have my suspicions about Sn0man, but I can't see a town motivation in Acid~ voting me right now. Town is in good shape aftering dodging N1 kill, anyone throwing around votes right now should have put in enough effort to analyze D1 in it's totality, which Acid~ admits he has not even bothered to do.
I'm just fucking repeating myself, Corazon, and pointing out shit that should be obvious to anyone who actually read Acid~'s filter, or god forbid, the thread.
Fuck off and do some work for a change. It's extremely hard for me to scumhunt when you all sit around with your thumbs up your ass expecting me to hand everything to you on a fucking silver platter.
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I don't accusing you of defending Acid~. I accuse you of not bothering to connect the dots and think for yourself. Of course I read your early posts because I've actually commented on them. In my filter. Which is there for you to read.
I thought about it some more, and there is one town motivation Acid~ could have for voting me, which is to pressure me because he needs a better read.
If that's his reasoning, I would have to rethink my case on him. I'm not saying I'll unvote him if, in 24 hours when he gets back from work (who works for 24 hours? isn't that illegal in germany?) he just says, "Yes warbaby I was pressuring you to get a better read." He needs think up some way to make actions that demonstrate this motive.
He needs to literally make up for the fact that he blatantly broke the rules, and spat in town's face, by failing to vote D1. And so far he has not done that.
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Warbaby's case against Acid~
1) He plays like shit day one and fails to vote.
2) He comes back day 2, with a completely unacceptable excuse. If he has 24 hour work shifts, he should not be signing up for mafia games.
3) He admits he didn't even read the whole thread, and pops a gigantic case (that largely echoes stuff Sn0man already said, so it's not like he even made that much effort -- mostly the math stuff is original, but I'm not even the one who fucked up the math in the first place).
4) The case is largely bullshit. I've also made a bullshit cases, to pressure people, but...
5) If he's trying to pressure me, it's a shitty way to do it, because he'll be gone for 24 hours.
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That's the most sensible thing you've said in a while, Corazon. I have already and will continue to make cases against other players. But right now I'm really pissed at Acid~ for playing so poorly.
Did you fail to note the fact that I've already named 2 other players I suspect of being scum?
Do you want me to make some bullshit case against you? Feeling left out?
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I don't, and I've made exactly one list in this game, which was the will I linked.
Why did you ignore my scumreads from that will and accuse me of tunelling Acid~? Explain this.
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On January 29 2013 08:35 warbaby wrote:
(lists are cool but I don't really count them as significant contributions)
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This is called being facetious. Who the fuck cares what I think about lists (no really, someone else comment on this accusation please). Why did you make shit up about my scumreads?
I'd love to hear what others think of Cora either not reading my will, or choosing to ignore it until I brought it up.
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I'm not throwing the towel in for D2. I never said I wouldn't unvote Acid~. Why are you implying I said these things?
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It's fine if you want to pressure me Cora, but your case is so shitty it doesn't even make sense. How am I supposed to make a will without listing my thoughts?
Zarepath suggested we write wills, although I was then the only one to do so. Maybe you should jump on Zare now for being a hypocrite too.
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On January 29 2013 14:09 cDgCorazon wrote:
Because you voted him instead of FoS-ing, which is what you really should have done. By voting, you are saying you want to lynch him today. Saying it 10 minutes into D2 is throwing in the towel.
How many minutes exactly must I wait before casting my vote, then? And why don't you criticize Acid~ for casting a vote immediately as well.
Again, your case is so bad it doesn't even make sense. Please try harder.
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On January 29 2013 14:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
You didn't make scum reads, you made a whole bunch of null reads and some "maybe scum reads".
How is calling Sn0man "my #1 scum candidate" not a scum read. I even FoS'd him. Why has nobody responded to my FoS on Sn0man? It still stands.
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On January 29 2013 14:30 cDgCorazon wrote:Sure you have made other posts (whereas Acid has not), but the majority of your game has been preaching to us how Acid is an infidel and needs to be slain (you can tell how not agitated I am with you?).
If anyone other than Corazon is reading this, look at my will again: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17656568
If I thought Acid~ was an "infidel and needs to be slain" for "the majority of the game" then why didn't I say so, for the majority of the game?
Corazon is clearly making shit up, and he is dodging my other accusations that his case FoS on me is also factually incorrect.
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Whatever, man. Glad I got you to pick up your post rate for a while. You sure I didn't get a rise?
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I'll take that into consideration, thanks.
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On January 29 2013 14:09 cDgCorazon wrote:By voting, you are saying you want to lynch him today. Saying it 10 minutes into D2 is throwing in the towel.
OK, fine. I can't come up with any reason you're wrong about this. I don't currently think Zare is scum, and he's telling me to do this as well.
[b]##Unvote: Acid~
##FoS: Acid~
By my own logic I find Acid~ scummier than Sn0man, currently. So I'm switching my middle finger of suspicion to Acid~.
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On January 30 2013 00:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Admittedly, it would be nice to see consistent contribution with wide-ranging analysis from, well, everybody, but some people have other obligations.
Having other obligations (SlayAlot) is different from being warned for playing the game improperly (Acid~). Acid~ has still not explained why he signed up for this game knowing he had 24 hour work shifts coming up, or why he thinks this is OK.
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On January 30 2013 00:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
C) Town has a JailKeeper/Doctor who is a clairvoyant (this one seems the most likely).
In the case of C, however, there is an interesting distinction between having a JK and a Doc. If we have a Doc, they have a confirmed townie on their hands, although that isn't necessarily that helpful. If we have a JK, then they know that their target is EITHER mafia OR the mafia target last night. But they can't be certain which. That again is interesting.
I don't think B) could happen either, since Cakepie is the only TRULY afk player over the course of all of Night 1... although if anybody can come up with a plausible scumteam that was simply afk all night 1 I'm listening.
I'd love to discuss what actually happened N1, which I see as a great win for town.
Note that there is one variation of the setup that allows for both JK and Doc (if I'm not reading the wiki wrong here -- love to see our authority on math and statistics, Acid~, to contribute on this point, but he's probably won't bother responding to this post, assuming he ever reads it).
If the blue is doc, should they claim? I don't think it was clairvoyant that nobody died N1 (and I think you sound like a sadscum by saying this), I think it was just damned lucky. Probably won't happen again, and there's a chance the Doc (if there is one) will be killed before they can do anything more useful.
If the doc exists and claims, and scum kills them, we end up with a 100% confirmed town and a no kill on Night 1. Is this good for town?
I'm not sure if this makes sense. I haven't put a lot of thought into reasons and possible results around town power role claims.
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On January 30 2013 02:00 zarepath wrote:
EBWOP:
Is signing up for a game you don't necessarily have the time to play a scum tell, warbaby?
No, but I think the only reason he could have voted for me as town is to pressure me, and I don't know how he plans to effectively pressure me if he's not here. I think that's somewhat scummy. He also admitted to not reading the whole thread before voting, which is super scummy. Both you, Zare, and Corazon called me out for voting rashly. At least I read the whole thread first =_=
If Acid~ was just modkilled N1 for breaking the rules I wouldn't be making this argument. I think it sucks that he's still in this game and STILL RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY MINUTE failing to contribute, without any acceptable explanation. I also think he lied when he said he had to go to work for 24 hours. A) He posted again like an hour later. B) I assume working for 24 hours straight in Germany is illegal because they have strict labor laws.
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At face value your points about blue claims make a lot of sense, Sn0man, thank you. I'll think about this some more and let you know if I have any more questions or comments on this point.
I don't believe in the supernatural, so I simply can't accept your claim of clairvoyance.
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Zare, I'm holding off on SlayAlot now because I feel like he gave a decent excuse for why he's not playing up to par. And he actually voted D1, which Acid~ did not.
Sn0_man, I misunderstood what you were getting at, and I was also just making a silly joke. So far my scum reads are on Acid~, you, and glurio. I tried to make a case on Cora while we were sparring last night, but I don't think it makes sense to pursue him any more right now. I think he was very town in his sparring with me.
You're asking me to make a case against someone other than Acid~. Since I will immediately be accused of OMGUS if I make a case on you, Sn0_man (who I currently claim is my #2 scum read), I guess that leaves Glurio.
I'll review the thread and see if I can make a case on Glurio, or someone else other than Sn0_man and Acid~. That's a totally reasonable request to make of me given my play so far.
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