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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 21 2013 13:12 GMT
#1007
Zare did vote for Spag first. And if he is scum, he didn't have to make a case and vote for him this early on. If he wanted to gain town-cred, it would have been better to do it later without actually putting Spag in harm's way. zebe kinda falls into the same logic, he did a case on Mocsta way before the train took off.

Even though Jacob's vote didn't seal the deal for Spag for 100%, this is still suspicious as it was 90% sure Spag would get killed that day.

What I'm honestly baffled by is this:

On January 21 2013 21:48 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 08:08 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Heya! Sorry for not posting earlier I was sleeping/reading the thread. To be honest I am still kinda shell shocked from reading 30+ pages straight makes me almost glad for the lurkers... However I skim read a lot due to the lynch time being soon.


He knew the lynch deadline was soon.


Why wasn't this caught earlier. This is actually a pretty big tell.


On January 21 2013 21:40 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Now what is also interesting is something I found is zebs filter, while it is before the game starts it proves he would have thought about the win conditions for sk.

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On January 09 2013 20:34 zebezt wrote:
How unfair, there is no coach for the person with the hardest role.


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On January 12 2013 04:55 zebezt wrote:
Yeah, I thought about SK kill conditions alot as well too. Seems very hard.
A last night with 4 people including a vigilante also could lead to a winning scenario.


So he wouldn't have gone crazy killing people early on.

Also would like to point out you haven't responded to my case on you. While being afk for most of the day is convenient it's not exactly helpful.


Yes. But as long as there is no sign of an SK, don't fucking think about it. We will find out soon enough.


If Jacob flips town this will get tricky, as zare and zebe are both equally town/scum at this point in my opinion. But, zeb is confirmed town as long as no one contradicts Trotskes claim, so zar should be the obvious choice next.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 21 2013 13:26 GMT
#1009
On January 21 2013 22:20 JacobStrangelove wrote:
In the middle of my reply but I wanted to clear something up real quick.

First off I knew it was soon. Like 3 hours or so I didn’t think it was soon as in 1 hour. You are twisting the word soon in this case considering days are 48 hours long I think I am pretty alright in saying what I thought was going to be 2-3 hours soon.


We believe Trotstke is DT, right? So then, zebe is town too (we ignore SK for now). I'm town.
This leaves you and zare. So why shouldn't we just lynch you both and be done with it? At the moment I think you are the better candidate so I would lynch you first. If you should tell the truth and be town, great, we just lynch zare and the game is takes a bit longer then needed.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 21 2013 21:54 GMT
#1021
Not much left to say:
##Vote: JacobStrangelove
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 09:59 GMT
#1044
One question for zebe, zare, and Trotske: If Jacob is lying and not RB, why would Mocsta lie about being RB'd on N1? Mocsta could not have known that there isn't a RB. If there isn't a roleblocker, Mocsta is fine, but if there is a RB and that RB did not roleblock Mocsta, he would have been called out for it. And town should not lie about being RB'd.

This is the one thing that I'm very concerned about.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 10:13 GMT
#1047
On January 22 2013 19:04 zebezt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 18:59 shz wrote:
One question for zebe, zare, and Trotske: If Jacob is lying and not RB, why would Mocsta lie about being RB'd on N1? Mocsta could not have known that there isn't a RB. If there isn't a roleblocker, Mocsta is fine, but if there is a RB and that RB did not roleblock Mocsta, he would have been called out for it. And town should not lie about being RB'd.

This is the one thing that I'm very concerned about.


Easy peasy
Mocsta knows there is no scum RB, or if there is one, he could tell em not to use their power.
So if someone else claims a RB, then it seems that there is a town and a scum RB.


The only thing that makes sense if there isn't a scum RB. What it really looks like. For a scum RB not to use their power is just dumb just to do that little claim.

So, in your opinion, it is more likely that Jacob is lying, than that Mocsta was not?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 10:21 GMT
#1049
Yea. That sentence does not make sense.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 10:28 GMT
#1051
Why do you think zebezt is scum all of a sudden?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 11:48 GMT
#1063
Jacob did one thing very good, confuse the fuck out of me. But at this point I still don't see any reason not to lynch him. After him I guess zare.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 13:17 GMT
#1078
On January 22 2013 22:04 zebezt wrote:
Shz is looking more scummy with every second imo

JSL is actually right about something in this respect. For shz it makes sense to vote zare or me. If he is town he will know that the 4 scum scenario is impossible. Therefore voting JSL is more safe for him.
He has had a lot of time to figure this out, but is instead sticking with JSL and even posted to this effect.

Imo this proves he is not thinking like a townie. Instead he is waiting to see what Trotske is going to do and jump ship to zare when he gets the chance.

Trotske does not have the added benefit of knowing wether or not shz is town, so he has to make the real decision.


So you think I should not vote Jacob? Because he is the best target?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 13:44 GMT
#1080
On January 22 2013 22:29 zebezt wrote:
*shrugs
I think I was clear.

I think if I were in your situation I would not vote him if I was town unless I really wanted to make sure that this game ends soon.
I think he looks guilty as hell, but maybe that's because I have the added information of knowing 100% sure that I am town and he lied about RB'ing me.
If I were you I would probably not be 100% convinced and vote zare to be sure.

My point was that since you didn't figure this out yourself it points to you being scum along with JSL.

This post is not telling you how to vote. It is more a warning to Trotske to not trust your intentions in this.
I'm not saying we should lynch you right now.
JSL could just be stalling for time and I'm being paranoid.


You are getting quite a bit aggressive on the way to the end.

I would vote for Jacob and zare. The only thing that kinda excuses zare is his case and early vote for Spag. Jacob on the other hand plays his last hours similar to Mocsta and Spag and his RB story is fishy as hell. Therefore he is the better lynch.

The only reason you and Trotske are out of question for scum is that no one else claimed DT. And therefore I have to think that zare or Jacob are scum, and if anything, you are SK. But we have no prove of the existens, so we only have to lynch J and Z and be done with the game. At least aslong no new evidence comes to light (through night actions).
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 15:27 GMT
#1108
What the actual fuck.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 22 2013 15:28 GMT
#1110
Want to enlighten us what you realized?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 23 2013 13:10 GMT
#1154
GG

Oh Jacob.. You really got me confused...
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 23 2013 18:56 GMT
#1161
On January 24 2013 03:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Oh and for the record spag told me lynch time was 12 so I was legitimately confused coming into the thread.


Why didn't you roleblock all game though?
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