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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 15 2013 06:43 GMT
#650
Anyone else lurking atm?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 15 2013 06:57 GMT
#653
The question is what is a good NK for scum?
Someone who is on the right way to find then? This could also mean that town will do what you are doing now, looking through his filters and votes to see who he thought was scum. The other possibility is to cause confusion and chaos and stop the scum hunting. But for now I would expect the first.

I would wait a little more until everybody had the chance to claim RB. It is also possible that both (if present) RB'ed you.

Yes, I think an town RB could have RB'ed you too. It's not like you weren't challenged in the last days.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 15:17 GMT
#723
Acid's case on Tro makes sense, imo.

It is interesting how his words are more town then his votes. He did try to push Sno decently hard, but then dropped it. This can be confused, scared town, but it also can be scum. And the rest of the things Acid pointed out seem scummy. At least enough to be lynched. But for now I'm gonna wait for the cases that have been promised, and cast my vote later. I'll propably be around deadline, so thats good.


Can we get more actual things besides "you are a lurker, die" from you Spa after day 2?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 15:51 GMT
#727
Your post involves a lot of ifs, and maybes, like you said. It is also only based on association before flip, like you said yourself.

I don't see the reason why we should lynch Omni first. If you are correct, it would be much easier to lynch laguerta / his replacement and then make the association.

It could be a big ploy and gutsy playstyle orchestrated by a smurf of a way more experienced player to try a new strategy or whatever, but this does still warrant a laguerta lynch much more than a Omni lynch. If you are so sure that laguerta is scum, lynch him first. Play it safe, and make the association afterwards. Though this style of association is still way harder to make, as a town can always defend a scum, but the more logical way is to see who the scum defended, as he knows the alignment.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 16:57 GMT
#730
On January 17 2013 01:00 Mocsta wrote:
You have to remember.. when i started this case.. the replacement wasnt due in.

And it took a fuckn long time to type it up.

Its midnight and Im exhausted.. Im happy to lead discussion with La Guerta, or whoever the replacement name is.. but not right now, im struggling to stay awake.



In short.. due to time restraints.. if La Guerta isnt lynched tonight, I am happy with Trotske.. I already commented on Acid case and didnt see many flaws.


It doesn't matter who the replacement is or says. If you are so sure, laguerta is still the better lynch.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 20:55 GMT
#744
I would still like to have an answer why the fuck does he not want to lynch laguerta if he is so sure. Why the giant (format wise mess of a) association case instead of voting the one who is associated. That does not make sense, and with Acids case, which does make kinda sense, I think now would be the time for some actual defense and answering of open questions.

Omni is definitly one of the dumbest targets to lynch today, and I can't wrap my head around why someone would make a case like that.

@Acid:
So you would say Mocsta is good scum, instead of crappy town? I can agree, but I'm not sure if laguerta would still be the better candidate for tonight. He should have died D1, did nothing until being modkilled, and his replacement doesn't seem to be around either, or is lurking hard. So I don't know why we shouldn't lynch him now and go after Mocsta later. But for me this depends on how Mocsta handles himself between now and lynch.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 22:20 GMT
#757
Are you kidding me Mocsta? How the fuck can't you still not vote for laguerta/Jacob?

I will stick with laguerta for now. I think he did a great job of either causing confusion in this town, or at playing bad. I hope it's the former. As long Jacob does'nt participate at all, I see no value in keeping him around. I'm not completly sold on Mocsta, but that doesn't I see him as town.

##Vote: JacobStrangelove

Please participate in some way before you die, maybe you can explain what the fuck laguertas play was and defend yourself (even if you weren't the one doing this shit). If not, I'll keep my vote on you.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#784
@Trot:

If you do get lynched in 20 minutes, would you like to share your opinions while you still have the chance?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 23:52 GMT
#794
@all:
Did your opinions about Jacob change? Do you think he is worth keeping around for a while?

I kinda feel that he at least contributed somewhat, though the surprise that the lynch deadline is so soon is a bit strange, it is posted with every votecount, and they were already a few of them before he started.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 23:58 GMT
#799
On January 17 2013 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 08:50 Mocsta wrote:
Snoan just.remeber what i said. If its me

ur playing a fine town game post night1 keep it up.

I hope u are.the ones that leads thenpressure on la guerta i think ur opinion isnthe least.biased.

Town needs i

EBWOP

Sn0_Man.

Your doing great.. Trust in yourself.. You can make the right decisions.


What are you doing? How victimized can someone post.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 16 2013 23:59 GMT
#803
Okay. I'm gonna vote for Mocsta. The case was solid, his defense wasn't. Jacob did buy himself some time. I want to see how he contributes.

##unvote
##Vote: Mocsta
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 17 2013 00:12 GMT
#813
GG

What will happen with Omni?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 17 2013 08:10 GMT
#835
On January 17 2013 15:56 zebezt wrote:
Now we can kill off Jacob and we will have only 1 scum left. This is awesome!
Gives us a lot of time for scum hunting.


This is plain dumb. This attitude leads to nowhere.

On January 17 2013 11:29 zarepath wrote:What is the scum motivation for Mocsta claiming that he was RB'd?


Town does not lie. If you are RB'd you should say so. If you don't, someone will know that you didn't, this leads to you being suspected. You should always claim RB.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 17 2013 08:49 GMT
#837
On January 17 2013 17:24 zebezt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 17:10 shz wrote:
On January 17 2013 15:56 zebezt wrote:
Now we can kill off Jacob and we will have only 1 scum left. This is awesome!
Gives us a lot of time for scum hunting.


This is plain dumb. This attitude leads to nowhere.


It's dumb to be happy?
I'm not saying we should sit back and relax. But in my eyes the next lynch is 100% clear.

It's sad for Jacob because he didnt get to play much, but Laguerta and mocsta set him up.

Evidence against Jacob

First there is Laguerta saying he is not gonna "no vote" and then he "no vote"s. LIE

Second there is is Mocsta's voting behaviour. During day 1 he is super late to get on the Laguerta voting train. When that train is looking like it's going to derail, Mocsta gives it the final push by jumping ship and voting Mand.
There is no reason for Mocsta to make this switch UNLESS HE IS PROTECTING HIS SCUM BUDDY.

Later on Mocsta claims he is 100% sure that Laguerta is scum. Yet he does not vote for him. Instead voting for somebody else. Not once, but TWICE. This looks to me like Mocsta is distancing himself from Laguerta, knowing his lie is out. However he tries to distract the vote away from Laguerta.

Any comparison with Temil is useless. This is more than enough PROOF THAT JACOB IS SCUM.

I therefore strongly suggest that if we have a roleblocker he RB's Jacob tonight.


Your attitude is bad. Don't just say "laguerta 100% kk go". No one will take it serious, and if you are wrong, that doesn't look good.

I'm not sure yet how Mocsta tried to play. So you would say that he set this all up to help laugerta? Even if Mocsta couldn't have known that he is gonna lynched? Why help someone with saying "You are 100% scum", even if he didn't vote for him?
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 17 2013 09:08 GMT
#840
Okay, noted. I would still like to try to find other associations and I'm not sure if that flip confirmed my suspicion on Jacob. I will think about it, for sure.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 18 2013 16:20 GMT
#921
First of all, could we stop with set-up discussion? Aslong as there is no confirmed SK, let's not speak about it. It creates nothing of use. N1 lynched could have been done by a SK, but aslong there is no other 2-kill night with the Vigi killed, don't think about it.

Spag is indeed very interesting. He plays just strange. In the beginning it was okay because he just replaced the troll and had to settle in. His LAL thing was okay, but in the end worthless as we lynched the GF on d2 with him being the most active player.

But thats over now. And I still don't get the vote-switch.

@Spaghetticus:
You said you will wake up in time for the lynch and participate. You did. Or, you were awake at least. You came in, changed your vote and went off. Why did you not post your explanation before the flip? You are a self-proclaimed god in Mafia, so why the fuck do you do something so obviously bad?

Also, confirming my last 10% of being town is not a good enough reason to lynch someone. Not that I disagree that Trot should be looked upon.

On January 18 2013 22:58 zarepath wrote:
This post (mine, here) does not even attempt to go into Spag's endorsement of Mocsta's case on me, or his voting behavior, or lack of cases on who the other 2 scum are. (Really, if he were actually going after scum, he would ASSUME I were scum, because if he supposedly knows he's not scum, then he has to assume that I was backing Mocsta up by voting for Trotske. Where is Spag's case on me? Shouldn't I be the most obvious scum to him if he's NOT scum? NO, instead he has a convoluted case which main goal is to confirm someone town.) I post this now because I think people are overlooking the importance of analyzing his interactions with the one person we KNOW to have been scum.


Should we then just lynch you both and one scum will come out of it?


On January 18 2013 07:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Acid's FoS on Spag seems correct but he may offload the KP.


Could someone explain to me what he was trying to say? I genuinely don't understand it.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 19 2013 16:53 GMT
#959
Spaghetti, you are pulling a serious Mocsta here. But leaving your will is actually a good thing to do. No matter what you flip.

Despite playing the angry victim pretty hard, I don't like this lynch.

My favorite to lynch today is zarepath. He did nothing all day except from tunneling Spaghetti. He is also AWOL the last 24hs and why shouldn't he be? Spag is going down and he doesn't need anymore attention on him.

If nothing happens for the rest of the day, my vote will stay with him.

##Vote: zarepath
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 19 2013 16:59 GMT
#960
I just realizied I was AWOL too for the last 24h.... I'm sorry for that.
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 19 2013 20:28 GMT
#963
Simply because I am not convinced that Spag is scum (yet?). But he is beyond getting saved anyway. But I will not just go with the wagon because its unstopable anyway. I'm more convinced on zare than I'm on Spag.

If you remove the Spag-Focus from zares posts, there is only setup talk (useless) and lists left. Which isn't that helpful honestly.

Of course Spag isn't helpful as scum, but is as town. It's not that I'm ruling anyone out, but I'm not convinced. And I would love to have some more input from him without getting all defensive,
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shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
January 19 2013 20:29 GMT
#964
I'm probably not going to be around on lynch.
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