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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 09 2014 05:12 GMT
#161
Well how much is it to upkeep cz I can take over the payments or we can donate or whatever. The database is a very useful tool after all
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 09 2014 12:11 GMT
#162
Save your money for buying me drinks next weekend babes x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 09 2014 12:42 GMT
#163
you're the one with the job, i'm just a poor attractive student you should be buying ME drinks yo!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
January 09 2014 13:45 GMT
#164
dagger through the heart
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 31 2014 01:14 GMT
#165
Well, there are some free hosting services here and there. It "could" be possible to use one of those perhaps?

Also, let's settle this argument, marv and Holy: You both get ME drinks instead.
I just solved your problem, you should be thanking me just now.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
January 31 2014 02:33 GMT
#166
We've given that a try, but unfortunately we weren't able to get any functionality out of it. Hopefully I'll come up with something in the next few weeks.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 31 2014 03:24 GMT
#167
What kinda server stuff do you need for the script to run? PHP & SQL? Or is it Python + SQL or something?

If you only need PHP and SQL, you could always host it on SourceForge. If you put a project on there, they give you free webspace that you can use and a couple of databases. I don't remember what all features it has, but I made a site on there a while back for a thing I made.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 31 2014 11:59 GMT
#168
Poke me prplhz. Unless you've written this thing in .net or something I should be able to host it.
Computer says mafia
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17952 Posts
January 31 2014 12:55 GMT
#169
Insofar as I know Amazon Web Services has a free tier. Of course, you need to get everything set up, but it should be easy to host the DB there?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 31 2014 16:49 GMT
#170
Yes, AWS gives you a free instance (server) to basically put anything you want in it.
However, it kind of sucks because the free tier has a LOT of restrictions, and as soon as you pass one of them they start charging you. So at every single minute you have to keep tabs on every single thing (amount of records in the DB, amount of trafic, amount of storage, etc etc) so you don't pass the limit on one of those.

But yes, depending on your language and shit you need (SQL db, bla bla bla), your possible choices of hosting services change
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 31 2014 17:10 GMT
#171
Anyways, here are some options:

Heroku:
Link: https://www.heroku.com/
Pricing (free): https://www.heroku.com/pricing
No restrictions basically. Other than having 10k DB records. Oh...you need PostgreSQL though. But I really like this one, you can use Rails or PHP and others. Porting from, say, MySQL to PostgreSQL might be worth it to use this one.

AWS:
Link: http://aws.amazon.com/en/elasticbeanstalk/
Pricing (free): http://aws.amazon.com/en/free/
As you can see, you have lots of stuff to worry about to use the free tier. But...well, if you know it's just for the database, and it's not a super popular website with millions of viewers and the like, you could almost be sure you'll be below those limits. And at the very least, it'll be something like 5$ per month at some points maybe.

AppFog:
Link: https://www.appfog.com/
Pricing (free): https://www.appfog.com/pricing/
Don't know anything about this one just stumbled upon it. But it seems it may work.


The database is a web site that will likely be accessed few times. It's mainly an online storage, with a nice GUI to access it. There won't be that many data in it either, since there aren't THAT many mafia games and players in TL.
So I think choosing any of the above you guys will be fine and won't need to pay a dime. I recommend Heroku, but well you can find guides for any of the others.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
January 31 2014 18:11 GMT
#172
I've already talked to prplhz about this, since he is cohosting Classified with me.

My understanding is that the big issue is man-hours, not $$$ - I already offered to cover server costs.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 31 2014 18:20 GMT
#173
But isn't the whole thing already done? And it only needs an on-going server?
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
January 31 2014 18:46 GMT
#174
Like I said, just my understanding
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
January 31 2014 18:50 GMT
#175
On January 31 2014 12:24 Keirathi wrote:
If you only need PHP and SQL, you could always host it on SourceForge. If you put a project on there, they give you free webspace that you can use and a couple of databases. I don't remember what all features it has, but I made a site on there a while back for a thing I made.


I was able to set up the database hosting, but does anyone know if you can actually host the php side of things? I don't see any reference to a subdomain or any tools to get things set up. There is a file manager, but that seems more like something used for source control and file sharing, rather than web hosting.

On February 01 2014 02:10 gonzaw wrote:
The database is a web site that will likely be accessed few times. It's mainly an online storage, with a nice GUI to access it. There won't be that many data in it either, since there aren't THAT many mafia games and players in TL.
So I think choosing any of the above you guys will be fine and won't need to pay a dime. I recommend Heroku, but well you can find guides for any of the others.


We're actually around 7500 records right now, so we're probably not that far off from the limit.Thanks for the suggestions, I'll take a look and see if I can get any of them to work.

On February 01 2014 03:11 iGrok wrote:
I've already talked to prplhz about this, since he is cohosting Classified with me.

My understanding is that the big issue is man-hours, not $$$ - I already offered to cover server costs.


Thanks for the offer!

On February 01 2014 03:20 gonzaw wrote:
But isn't the whole thing already done? And it only needs an on-going server?


Well you have to register for an account, create the database and script the schema and records, ftp the files and set up the file structure, configure the php settings, and change all the connection strings that are currently hard coded. The issue is that once I've done this on the 2-3 "free" hosting services, it still isn't working and there isn't a great way to figure out what's wrong.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 01 2014 00:11 GMT
#176
On February 01 2014 03:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 12:24 Keirathi wrote:
If you only need PHP and SQL, you could always host it on SourceForge. If you put a project on there, they give you free webspace that you can use and a couple of databases. I don't remember what all features it has, but I made a site on there a while back for a thing I made.


Yea, there are some instructions on how to get access to your project web here: http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Project Web Services/

An example page I hosted on sourceforge: http://twitchmodbot.sourceforge.net/

Used wordpress and phpBB
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 01 2014 01:01 GMT
#177
On February 01 2014 03:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 02:10 gonzaw wrote:
The database is a web site that will likely be accessed few times. It's mainly an online storage, with a nice GUI to access it. There won't be that many data in it either, since there aren't THAT many mafia games and players in TL.
So I think choosing any of the above you guys will be fine and won't need to pay a dime. I recommend Heroku, but well you can find guides for any of the others.


We're actually around 7500 records right now, so we're probably not that far off from the limit.Thanks for the suggestions, I'll take a look and see if I can get any of them to work.


Hmm, yeah that might be a problem. Guess Heroku is out then.
AWS offers 20GB of DB space for free. Maybe AWS will be the best choice. You won't have much traffic and stuff to worry about, so you won't have to worry about the limits.


Show nested quote +
On February 01 2014 03:20 gonzaw wrote:
But isn't the whole thing already done? And it only needs an on-going server?


Well you have to register for an account, create the database and script the schema and records, ftp the files and set up the file structure, configure the php settings, and change all the connection strings that are currently hard coded. The issue is that once I've done this on the 2-3 "free" hosting services, it still isn't working and there isn't a great way to figure out what's wrong.


Well, maybe I could help a little if you give me more info. Like which framework/language/database/etc you are using, if you are using a specific file system (to get images maybe), etc.
Some of the hosting services I mentioned work better with "simple" frameworks and the like. Like just a PHP server with a database and nothing else, or a whole ruby on rails structure, etc.
If you have more detailed stuff, it may be harder to get one that does exactly what you want with little effort
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-01 01:32:12
February 01 2014 01:19 GMT
#178
Although yeah, you'll need some dependency management in almost all of those.
Either Maven if you used java, Composer if you used php (I believe), gems if you used rails, etc.

EDIT: Actually, maybe not. Depends on you set up your project basically
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
February 05 2014 14:26 GMT
#179
I've finally managed to get the database connection working in some parts.

You can load a player and factions list, but loading the game info and saving any changes still isn't functional. This would be a lot easier if I had minimal php knowledge

http://tlmafiadatabase.sourceforge.net/
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 09:39:50
February 07 2014 09:39 GMT
#180
I may be able to help, just poke me on IRC
Computer says mafia
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