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@Jampi
Try to do more than just defend yourself. You are under pressure, but the best thing you can do for town and yourself is to be proactive rather than reactive. If someone has some particularly pertinent points feel free to address them, but you should be looking to contribute new content.
As you are now under considerable pressure yourself, I feel that I can tell you that I have ruled you out as a voting option. I was keeping this info from you to try and make you contribute, but now I sense a potential bandwagon on you that I think is not in the town's best interest. I feel the content you have submitted to be more concise, of superior analytic quality, and far less scummy than that of StiX. I'm still torn between Stix and TeMiL, for my day one vote. I think revealing this information to you has not decreased your motive to post, but has increased theirs, as their odds of my vote have gone up from 1/3 to 1/2.
Anyone that is thinking of voting for Jam should read through both the filter of Jam and Stix (they are both short), and ask themselves if there is any reason whatsoever they should vote Jam over Stix?
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@Corazon
Lynching lurkers day two is exactly what you do not want to have to do. You have disregarded everything I have posted on this matter without addressing it and it's starting to feel scummy. For the sake of you maintaining a positive town light in my eyes, could you duck through my filter and respond to my arguments as to why lynching lurkers day one is FAR superior to lynching them day two? Your position on day two LAL is from my perspective indefensible, and I would like to know why I'm wrong in thinking you uncharacteristically dense to disagree.
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On January 05 2013 02:36 Spaghetticus wrote:
@Strix
You look like you’re half way between lurking and posting fluff posts. When I skim over your filter I see nothing that looks like contribution. I am almost certainly heavily biased. If you have the time you may want to prove me wrong by highlighting some actual content from your filter? I will absolutely demand it of you come night presuming we are both still kickin’. I understand if you have other more important content to post, it is nearing lynching time so time is of the essence. Either way I expect either new content OR a defense, preferably the former.
As above, but @Sylencia
You're being just responsive enough to fly under the radar. I can't see much that you've contributed pertaining to the outcome of this game, you've responded when prompted which suggests that while you are wanting to appear active, you aren't actually doing any of the background research that leads to OC or cases. This is scummy. As I said to Strix, show me some original content you have contributed, or even better, present some you've been holding back.
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@OmniEulogy
I get a scum read off you... but...
I am not going to pursue you if I can help it. Your process is so alien to me I can't really fathom your motives. I would like other people to apply scrutiny while I look elsewhere. I just can't see you as not scum, but this was true in XXXIII and you flipped town. Please people, before you attribute a scumbuddy relationship here... ... ... ... this is too high profile and obvious. My contribution will be substantial elsewhere, I genuinely feel my objectivity is compromised entirely when dealing with Omni. This is town motivated and too bold a risk for too little a reward to be a scum ploy. I have reasonable town motive, I don't want this post to haunt me.
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Going to bed. It's 6am and I have been doing this for a laaaawng time. I'm not confident in my ability to figure this time zone stuff out, so I'm gonna set my alarm for three hours which likely means I'll be up in four. Hopefully that leave me room for lynching and all the associated hassle.
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##unvote:TeMiL
##vote:Strix
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Wait really?
Strix (3) - Spag, Jamp, Omni
Jamp (3) - Syl, Corazon, Strix
Omni (2) - Zare, Moc
Jampi is currently set to get lynched due to plurality.
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Please note that I believe StriX' most recent action is purely for survival. He perceives the stagnant state of the Jamp wagon, but sees new hope in the spontaneous Omni wagon.
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On January 05 2013 09:32 StriX wrote:
Survival = bad?
It's weird also that you are basically saying with your vote that I lurk more than TeMiL.
As a town or scum it's semi-expected of you. What I was implying is that while people see the vote numbers, they should disregard yours as it does not lay at the same place as your top scum read.
@Omni
While I'm deliberately keeping away from you, it's not because I don't see a case. If StriX had tunneled you instead of being scummy/lazy it would probably be your head. Don't mistake my abstaining from scum-hunting you as you not coming across as scummy. I would have been more than happy with a lynch on you, I just don't trust myself to find the townsign if it is there.
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The only way Omni is going down is if TeMiL is hawking and actually votes, or one of the StriX crew change their mind. Further note that in the former case, Omni would actually only have three genuine votes, as StriX' vote is survival focused and TeMiL's is meaningless.
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What I'm saying is that anyone on the Omni wagon after the four votes were placed on StiX are effectively 'no-lynching'.
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On January 05 2013 09:45 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 09:44 Spaghetticus wrote:
The only way Omni is going down is if TeMiL is hawking and actually votes, or one of the StriX crew change their mind. . Actually, they both need to happen, because of the tiebreaker.
Wait what? am I reading the OP correctly? is a tie a no-lynch? I swear I second checked it to make sure it was plurality?
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Yeah my bad, you just made me panic really hard.
+ Show Spoiler +I did.
The OP says both
This game uses plurality lynch - The one with the most votes gets lynched. In case of a tie, the one that got there first wins the race!
and
5. This game uses Plurality Lynch. The person with the most votes gets lynched. For somebody else to get lynched, he needs to overtake the current lynch-ee in votes.
The second one makes it sound like you need a majority, but you only need a majority at some point in time. Someone is getting lynched.
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I'm actually sort of annoyed he won't be mod-killed.
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I assume we're waiting on flavour for the reveal?
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This seems understandable since voting was highly contentious, giving you little time.
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You are overconfident Omni.
Now that StiX is gone, you are the person who has had the most suspicion of them expressed with a vote. You are so far from bullet-proof it blows my mind that you would act this way.
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I'm not sure if this is an exact repeat of the 1:1 hypothesis from XXXIII, as I was dead and only skimmed over it.
Basically, unless we have very bold scum, I believe there was at most one scum voting for StiX. This means that if Jamp, Omni, or Corazon flip scum, you can increase your town reads on the other two. I do not include myself in this equation so as to remove the possibility of scum motive from my post. I am not implying you should discount me if any of these three flip scum, and if I flip scum, you should completely ignore this post.
This also does not imply that there was definitely one scum on the StiX wagon. There could be two distributed among Jami and Omni.
It does imply that there was at least one voting for either Jami or Omni, though this is not a very strong claim.
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@Zare
Good post.
I do have solid reasoning for my switches, but would prefer not to post them now if people can figure them out themselves. I invite the scrutiny (it's inevitable). I like the direction of this analysis. I want Syl pushed, and am very happy with this information as a foundation.
I will most likely post an explanation of my behaviour later, but this should not stop you analysing my motives now. Your switch doesn't seem particularly scummy to me, but I have reason for bias in that I believe I changed for similar reasons.
I do not like this as a platform for analysis on TeMiL. He spouts nonsense and is in my eyes an empty slot. Nothing he has said has been influential, and thus if he is scum he is entirely ineffective at promoting his agenda. This does make me feel a little cross saying this, as I'd have liked him mod-killed, but if TeMiL is scum you won't catch him by analysing his posts, and by ignoring him you would be creating a town environment of 6/1, which is town favoured. If he is town then you are wasting your time on him, and the current numbers would be 5/2 regardless. My understanding gives no explanation of how I intend on actually catching him if he is scum, I guess I'm hoping that over time, we will have more information to work with.
If anyone wants to attack TeMiL, then I would request that they first address my reasoning above. My conclusion is that regardless of his alignment, there is currently no point in pursuing a case against TeMiL.
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On January 05 2013 10:47 OmniEulogy wrote:
I believe you guys are right about 1 scum on myself and StriX, however I believe its more likely for Jampi to be the scum on StriX and the remaining scum to be Mocsta or Zare. Zare made a similar move to Cora in NMM XXXIII when voting for me. I'm not sure if its scummy in this case or just bad play though.
Could you elaborate on this move? What makes it similar and why is it scummy/bad. What town and scum motives can be attributed to this action? Do you realise just how little reasoning you are explaining when you just give us your conclusions?
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