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Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 23:28 GMT
#1651
How will the division be chosen if it does not amount to whole numbers/person?
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 23:29 GMT
#1652
How is it divided? Evenly? What happens with rounding?

Depending on the answers, we suggest that, instead of having to tap 5 permanents each, nobody taps anything to the board card and we all take the piddly damage dealt.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 23:31 GMT
#1653
inb4 card gets changed again.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 23:38 GMT
#1655
Cool. We're 8 players left. We can't count on Xfire cooperating. Other than that: if nobody taps to the permanent we all take 1 damage (10/7 < 1.5 and is thus rounded down).

I will consider it a scum claim if you tap a permanent for the global card.

If you claim you didn't read this and just did whatever, I will consider it a scum claim anyway.

/Acro
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 23:47 GMT
#1659
Revell in the beauty that is the Bazaar of Baghdad. A magical place where all manner of spells can be bought!

Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 03 2013 23:52 GMT
#1660
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 00:05 GMT
#1663
Isn't Crossfire supposed to be at like 5 HP now?

Pretty sure that's the case.

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 00:42 GMT
#1682
Doesn't that, like, not work because aperture doesn't have a creature?

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:02 GMT
#1690
On February 04 2013 09:44 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 09:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Doesn't that, like, not work because aperture doesn't have a creature?

~dandel


Oh you may be right

Well Aperture, better get a creature out soon.

Nope, my fellow Hydra head is wrong. Fork rulings are strange like that, but Reckless Abandon's text reads "as an additional cost". Sacrificing the creature is thus part of the casting cost, which does not need to be payed again. AS can fork the crap out of that. Hur hur hur.

Also, here's the math on Xfire:

Wooded Foothills: 1 damage
Zombie x4: 8 damage
Soul Syphon: 16 life
Chain Lightning x 3: 9 damage
Reverberate on CL: 3 damage
Death Spark: 1 damage
Zombie x 3: 6 damage
Ninja: 2 damage
Lavamancer: 1 damage

Total: 5 life remaining

As far as I can see in the board thread nothing else happened to him

/Acro
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:07 GMT
#1694
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 08:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?

Manaburn from Braid of Fire.

Yay, we're not playing with the retarded new rules that removed that. Also, that means he should be at 14, right?

2 dmg from siphon
1 dmg from lavamancer
1 mana burn t2
2 mana burn t3
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:10 GMT
#1697
Eh, I don't think there's any difference between Xfire dying in the main phase or in the attack phase unless he casts a creature with haste.

Plan: blast Xfire down to 0 life. If he doesn't die, we attack him with enough creatures to kill him in the attack phase.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:15 GMT
#1700
On February 04 2013 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:07 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 08:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?

Manaburn from Braid of Fire.

Yay, we're not playing with the retarded new rules that removed that. Also, that means he should be at 14, right?

2 dmg from siphon
1 dmg from lavamancer
1 mana burn t2
2 mana burn t3

I forgot manaburn doesn't exist anymore, my bad. No mana burn. Also, Braid of Fire mana can be used during the Main Phase.

What? How the hell? Is he allowed to use the mana to cast sorceries or permanents? Is he allowed to use it to cast instants that interact with sorceries or permanents played that turn? If so, you just ninja-improved the shit out of a card without telling us.

Also, Appy, why did you not tell us? In fact, why did you purposefully withhold that information last turn when you tapped more lands than you needed to cast Reverberate?
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:18 GMT
#1701
On February 04 2013 10:09 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:06 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 09:13 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Even if he can indeed cast something, he can't "recover" right? If he gets down to 0 HP he dies no matter what, right?

No, because it'd 'rush' people into casting spells. The no in response rule has been made to counter this, and quickly casting spells to kill someone before they can cast something would be included in that.


But this applies to him the same right?
Imagine I get him down to 0 HP, and he does nothing

Imagine he has a "Gain 1 life" sorcery. Now imagine he plays it at the last second of this Main Phase.

Wouldn't this be unfair? We'd be playing this whole Main Phase under the assumption he'd die, and he fucks that up at the last second.

Could you maybe give him a "set" time for him to use a card that prevents him from dying or something? That way once that set time passes we are sure he'll die at the end of the cycle


/G


Of course my concerns about this is because we CAN deal A LOT of damage to him, not just 5.
But we would ONLY deal 5 damage to him if it kills him.
So if he has the "Gain 1 life" card, and uses it now, then we can kill him with 1 more damage this Main Phase
But if he waits until the very last moment and ninja-casts, then we can't, and thus he'll survive longer when he shouldn't

/G

But you still have 3 mana open after you do this, right? So you can still Ball Lightning it up if shenannies happen?
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:33 GMT
#1718
On February 04 2013 10:20 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:15 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:07 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 04 2013 08:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
What did 1 damage to Aperture Science? Didn't he take 2 from the Soul Siphon and 1 from Poster's attack, putting him at 17?

Manaburn from Braid of Fire.

Yay, we're not playing with the retarded new rules that removed that. Also, that means he should be at 14, right?

2 dmg from siphon
1 dmg from lavamancer
1 mana burn t2
2 mana burn t3

I forgot manaburn doesn't exist anymore, my bad. No mana burn. Also, Braid of Fire mana can be used during the Main Phase.

What? How the hell? Is he allowed to use the mana to cast sorceries or permanents? Is he allowed to use it to cast instants that interact with sorceries or permanents played that turn? If so, you just ninja-improved the shit out of a card without telling us.

Also, Appy, why did you not tell us? In fact, why did you purposefully withhold that information last turn when you tapped more lands than you needed to cast Reverberate?


Check, I only tapped one mountain.

I am concerned about cross, but there is literally nothing more I can do than fork something

Sorry, I just assumed that you tapped 2 due to getting mana burned. I guess the mana burn reason for you taking damage was therefore also wrong?

Still, you never told anybody. Nor corrected wrong assumptions about its working in this game:
On February 02 2013 07:30 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 07:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Oh and for that, Stutters should make bear now.

Go stutters! The entire game* hangs on your ability to make a bear!



*slight exaggeration

~dandel

Once again, I disagree with my hydra head. I think Stutters should do what he wants. If he thinks a 2/2 bear helps town, then great. If something else, great too: he's the only one who knows his deck and how it can contribute.

Word of caution, though: I'm not sure a howling mine is a good idea, because we have to consider the serious situation where Aperture is scum and will "go off" tomorrow and deck us all, play an infinite number of Eldrazi or do something else fucked up. The presence of Epic Experiment AND Mind's Desire in his GY point towards a pretty funky combo where he just dumps down a giant list of instants and sorceries which ends in 200 damage to everybody else in the game. "I win".

Dandel was saying we should blow up his braids. I don't quite see what 2 red mana in his upkeep can do (can only play instants, not sorceries), but it's something to keep under consideration. I WOULD like Aperture to tell us how his deck is supposed to work and what he needs to "go off", so we can estimate the threat he likely poses.

/Acro

On February 04 2013 01:21 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
I don't understand the deck either. But my brain isn't working and the deck looks complicated. Eye of the Storm, Hive Mind and Niv-Mizzet together seem like the threat, but there doesn't actually seem to be an effective finisher.

I also don't understand why half the cards that are in there are included as they don't seem to be needed for the combo, or useful in setting it up. Also, what's the point of Braids, when all the expensive spells are enchantments or sorceries (and I guess a Hamletback Goliath, but I don't know why that's there either).

/Acro

Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:42 GMT
#1723
On February 04 2013 10:33 iGrok wrote:
Acro you realize that my posted decklist was totally unrelated to this game now right?

Yes, but I still posted that Braid gives mana in the upkeep, which you conveniently ignored. Twice. Why? Was it convenient for you to appear weaker than you are?
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:52 GMT
#1731
On February 04 2013 10:43 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:33 iGrok wrote:
Acro you realize that my posted decklist was totally unrelated to this game now right?

Yes, but I still posted that Braid gives mana in the upkeep, which you conveniently ignored. Twice. Why? Was it convenient for you to appear weaker than you are?

Where did you post that? I don't remember seeing it


I just quoted the damn posts like 10 minutes ago...
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:55 GMT
#1732
Okay, Nova and AS not reading the thread. Suck not playing the game.

Terrible damage will be dealt this turn and the target is one of these 3.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:55 GMT
#1733
On February 04 2013 10:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 10:43 iGrok wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 04 2013 10:33 iGrok wrote:
Acro you realize that my posted decklist was totally unrelated to this game now right?

Yes, but I still posted that Braid gives mana in the upkeep, which you conveniently ignored. Twice. Why? Was it convenient for you to appear weaker than you are?

Where did you post that? I don't remember seeing it


I just quoted the damn posts like 10 minutes ago...

To be fair, that's very hard to find due to all the fluff that was posted!

~dandel
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:55 GMT
#1734
^^ is assuming Xfire dies to the DD spells.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 01:57 GMT
#1735
Also, don't forget the policy lynch on Marv. If Marv is still alive on D3, kill him. It's D3. Kill him.
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