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On December 05 2012 04:56 Kickstart wrote:
Don't be impressed, I didn't make a post saying I was suspicious of you to impress you.
The pressuring has nothing to do with it at all. It is how you did it. I posted how I responded to Axl (which was in line with everyone else at the time) and I said some words of encouragement but told him that he needs to answer questions and post his thoughts and the reasoning behind them, you on the other hand pressure him by saying "OMG HE IS IGNORING ME" and then throwing a vote his way - if people can't see the point I am making there then there is not much I can do to expand on this.
Why would I just let a player ignore me?'
Again, different is not bad.
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On December 05 2012 05:01 Kickstart wrote:
No different is not bad, now move the fuck on. I said that I think a town player would look at Axl and react one way, and that you did not react that way but you reacted how I thought scum would want to. Get over it and move on.
You fail to explain why scum would want to be aggressive in that situation.
I'm not going to get over it. Why are you so mad right now?
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Lol, I'm retarded for wanting people to explain themselves.
Oh, kick.
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On December 05 2012 05:05 jidolboy wrote:
When you pressure a person (especially a noobie) they might not think straight and post some stupid response. Then the scum can exploit that and manipulate the townie to lynch him. That's my thought
But if you pressure no one, you get nowhere.
It's really unproductive to go after people being aggressive. If you want to play a passive game where scum can just hide among the lurkers then go ahead. I will not, however.
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On December 05 2012 05:06 Kickstart wrote:
So my post that filled up anentire page didn't explain my thoughts well enough Yamato? You are being really stupid right now.
Your "thoughts" are that my play was different from how you thought town should act. Yet you really haven't argued for how it necessarily indicates that my actions were scum motivated.
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I also unvoted him when I got the answers I wanted.
Why would I, as town, not want people to explain themselves? If they don't answer me, what powers do I have at my disposal to force them to do so? My vote. If I don't use it, it's an empty threat.
Sorry if my being aggressive doesn't sit well with you, but your accusations that it makes me scummy are contradictory to my view on how the game should be played.
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On December 05 2012 05:16 jidolboy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 05:06 yamato77 wrote:On December 05 2012 05:05 jidolboy wrote:
When you pressure a person (especially a noobie) they might not think straight and post some stupid response. Then the scum can exploit that and manipulate the townie to lynch him. That's my thought But if you pressure no one, you get nowhere. It's really unproductive to go after people being aggressive. If you want to play a passive game where scum can just hide among the lurkers then go ahead. I will not, however. The thing is. If you pressure someone you should ask questions and questions. But not to quickly Votekick him. Dont you think having town's opinion is a good choice?
I did ask him a lot of questions. He ignored me. Go back and read the thread. It's only after I felt he was ignoring me that I voted for him.
Having other's opinions doesn't really help my decision making. Some of them are scum who would want to lead me in the wrong direction. It's better to just put it out there and make my reads based on responses.
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On December 05 2012 05:21 Kickstart wrote:
What answers did you get from Axl, because I for one can't understand a thing he posts.
It was more indirect than anything. He didn't think at the time that he had anything to respond to so he didn't. I understand that. I thought he was intentionally ignoring me to hide something but I don't think that's the case anymore, because if you actually read his posts he talks a lot about what he thinks.
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For the next 8 hours or so I will be at work. I can't let myself be distracted by this game while I'm there anymore or I will get in trouble.
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CC: Asks reads of every player but has posted only one of his own.
Axle I'm intrigued by your solution. I assume it involves me being scum since that is a la mode at the moment.
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What do I think about what?
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On December 05 2012 16:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
The shitstorm between me and kickstart.
Who would you vote if you absolutly had to?
Axle.
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Why would a town player be that fucking obnoxious?
Obvious scum. If he's not, he's definitely not playing to win.
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On December 05 2012 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Maybe its his style of writing?
Him making a huge post on his read of the host is not "his style of writing". It's blatant trolling. If you want to tolerate it, that's up to you but I think he doesn't belong in this game.
##Vote AxleGreaser
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That's a pretty good case you got there, Rad.
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Can you post something of any relevance to the last 10 or 15 pages of the thread?
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Do you guys really want to get to mylo or lylo with Axle still in the game? Or even D2 for that matter?
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Scum and liability to town are basically the same thing. If he is town he is playing against his own win condition.
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On December 06 2012 04:58 Arnarnion wrote:
But Yam, is Axle your top scum read, and if not, why wouldn't you vote for them instead?
Because my top scum read isn't that strong and I don't have enough time to make plays today to get a better one. I was aggressive early with this fact in mind and it produced very little in the way of true scum motives.
Axle is best lynch IMO. Unless someone makes a huge mistake all I have are some general reads.
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