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I have a feeling that throughout the rest of your mafia career (if you could call it that), you'll never push reads, you'll never get into arguments, never be "caught in a scum slip," and probably never be thoroughly understood (except here and there, occasionally). Reading your posts makes me think like you, and then post like you, but without placing each thought on a separate line. Maybe a few per line instead. I would recommend, for now, that you don't place blame on yourself for being so confusing to most of us, but rather, keep your mind open and find the scum. That's all you have to do as town. Find scum, vote for them, maybe even try to convince people that they're scum and you're not. Yes, by not voting for oats, you've placed yourself into a questionable area. You might now look like scum and confuse the rest of town. No need to worry about it. Just find the scum. | ||
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Please take note though that yamato and I are most suspicious right now because we've put ourselves out there for town scrutiny. Had either of us lurked and throw out our opinions sparingly and jumped on the oats train, we'd be in the same position as the other lurkers. Both of us, instead, interacted, made our thoughts known, and stuck to them. Take that however you will, but I'm getting an angry townie feel from yamato, the same one as your last game. He's given that same exact vibe for most of this game. I think it's especially interesting that he's not convinced in town CC. Talk about picking the hardest target to throw suspicion on... | ||
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Oat's play seems fucking crazy. I thought that was just his personality (got that vibe from beginning of chrono before he was considered confirmed town, at which point he calmed the fuck down, and from last NMM game - at beginning of one of those QTs I straight up said he pisses me off and called him scum, even though he turned out to not be). I don't see why he couldn't come up with some crazy ass idea of an early bus into a LOL victory. Now, a kicks or CC early bus, that just sounds fucking stupid, you were both pushing him well before his lynch seemed likely, but jidol, sylencia, and arn came in late enough, especially with me, yamato, and axle not looking like we were going to jump on the oats wagon anytime soon. You and kick don't get the oats lynch without the lurkers. And how much town cred did it get them? Enough for 2, possibly 3 mislynches? | ||
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I was leaning town on sylencia before your post on him (thoughtful long posts, good answers, I personally don't mind lists and was happy he was at least getting his opinion out there when requested). I remember thinking your points on him were good but not damning at the time, though I thought the same about your points about oats, so I'll reconsider them. Arn's actions are easiest to call wishy-washy I think, but out of the 3, he's most active, so at least he's put himself out there to be called wishy-washy. jidolboy just hasn't posted enough to know wtf his alignment is. | ||
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 GG CC | ||
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Care to elaborate on that? | ||
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Actually your green question is pretty interesting. It seems like after you get some play time under your belt, you start to think towards the future. Do you play to win this game, or play to win future games? For me, personally, I would rather focus on the now, because I don't know if I'll play other games in the future, and if I do, I don't know when I'll play them. | ||
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From last NMM obs: glhf Its hammer time. If this post is not what I ought put here, I am good with editing it away. If OakMaster turns up would someone kindly direct him to this question, that might be best thrashed out here not in Day 1 of XXXII noob game (As that might terrify the natives) Oakmaster I have never played game of mafia in my life..... So you might tend to discount what I say. However if an utter wet noob can say this too you and be right... perhaps there is a real problem. Try getting some of obs to laugh at how silly these points are? I might very well play in the next noob game depending when it starts. I do however want it to be a fun experience for both of us. I had however been tossing up the idea just not playing until you stop playing in the noobs. I have been having trouble working out what I am going to do so that if you and I play in a game I don't get mislynched D2. As a noob seeking to learn. I have been told what I should do when trying to do reads is not get tied up in logic but look for the motivations of the player. Thus I have a question I want to know what OakMasters actual motivation was during D2. A wagon was running on him, it acquired influential players. During that time when there was real possibility he might have to claim... Did he wonder what will be best for town or was his one priority, "get the lynch off me anywhere doesn't have to be the best place, just so long as it is anywhere?" How did you let it go to one of the towns previously Most town reads? Were you overly suspicious of him? What had Oakmaster been doing with his time, who did he want to lynch the most? Or did he simply not care. After that day how many people were actually saved by the blueness of his role? If he had been in fact been as derp as he had been playing... wasn't it actually the worst play. Did he bring any evidence he was not derp? To scummy to be scum, to derp to be a doctor to be worth even saving was my read. You didn't even come with any evidence you could play better than you had. What would have happened if you looked for your meta case of kickstart the first day and dropped that on top of Aquas post. Obs would have cheered, so would I youd have been a legend, you might still be. What had you done except wait for your time in the sun? I know it is not my place, but I nominate OakMaster : Serial killer MVP. Yeah I do know the available roles: my nomination stands. BTW: This is how you execute someone. Might it hurt his feelings? glhf. What is your intention with your play this game axle. You criticize oats for his play in last NMM, but what would you say of yourself in this game? Who was worse, blue oats trying to save himself last game, or you literally contributing nothing to this game but confusion. You have the potential to take down town all on your own if we mislynch a couple times. What win scenario would that fit for you? ##Vote: AxleGreaser | ||
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Like I've said before, this is when I work. Sorry I can't jump on and discuss this with you all day. Keep in mind we have over 24h to discuss this stuff, so if you want to leave me questions I will be more than happy to answer them when I get a chance to. It would be great if you could leave them in an easier to answer manner rather than scrambled throughout all your posts. | ||
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COINCIDENCE? Now, if he wants to throw out some questions that make sense and I don't have to read 30 times before understanding them, I'm happy to answer. I'm not going to sit here and play some stupid ass game with him though (unless you do it first! :D). | ||
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Well I'm about to jump in another game of HotS. Then I'll probably check back, and play more hots, and then check back, and probably some more hots. So you have about 20 seconds to get your first question out. | ||
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On December 08 2012 13:16 AxleGreaser wrote: Kick and Rad your now extended absence is making think the other way about you? where are you? Are you saying that my extended absence has made you think about my as town? Because you've had your vote sitting on me all day. | ||
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On December 08 2012 13:32 AxleGreaser wrote: BTW thanks for going first with your restatement of the claim. I will go first.......... I have more than 2 hours How long do you have. I say Rads post is saying that I am being voted for just for being unreadable. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17160556 I have evidence. Did you think that. too? A cheap answer is: Yeah, I suppose, but what is it. A more expensive answer is: Yes. I see Rads post as saying that is 100% of the reason for doing it. Do You? A cheap answer is: Yeah, I suppose, but what is it. A more expensive answer is: Yes. lol axle, why can't you just ask the question properly? Ask the question, and let it be done with, keeping everything else going through your mind in your own head. I'll then answer the question, as precisely as I can, so others can read my response. Why does it have to be a big production with every post? On December 08 2012 01:03 Rad wrote: Axle, imagine yourself and 2 others left in this game. One of you is scum. How the fuck is town supposed to decide if you're scum or not in that scenario? You're literally forcing yourself to be a policy lynch due to being 100% unreadable. I can't even consider you newbie town anymore because you're just spamming up the thread with no direction. You ask a question, get a couple answers, and do NOTHING with it. You vote yourself, unvote, vote, unvote, talk to yourself, wtf? If you get lynched and flip scum I will /facepalm. If you get lynched and flip town, I will have to consider not playing with you anymore. From last NMM obs: What is your intention with your play this game axle. You criticize oats for his play in last NMM, but what would you say of yourself in this game? Who was worse, blue oats trying to save himself last game, or you literally contributing nothing to this game but confusion. You have the potential to take down town all on your own if we mislynch a couple times. What win scenario would that fit for you? ##Vote: AxleGreaser That's my vote on you and my reasons. On December 08 2012 13:27 Rad wrote: lol yamato I explained my vote in my vote post. It's a policy lynch based on the fact that he gets more and more dangerous for town as time goes on (completely unreadable one way or the other). I did not feel he deserved a policy lynch on d1 because every few posts he would make sense for a moment and during those times his intentions seemed legit town. Today he came up and spit out a bunch of complete nonsense, doing nonsensical things like voting himself and, as far as I could tell, talking to himself over multiple posts. Notice after he got 2 votes on him, he started focusing his efforts properly. COINCIDENCE? Now, if he wants to throw out some questions that make sense and I don't have to read 30 times before understanding them, I'm happy to answer. I'm not going to sit here and play some stupid ass game with him though (unless you do it first! :D). here is me reiterating my reasons. Certainly my posts are not confusing to you. If ANYONE ELSE is confused by them, I will happily reexplain myself a second time. | ||
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