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before i vote,
Yam I having difficulty reconciling your earlier post
+ Show Spoiler +On December 13 2012 10:36 yamato77 wrote:
the only possibilities for the last scum are rad or axle IMO
Getting a lynch on rad is impossible even if syl believed me unless somehow axle followed our vote by blind luck
Lynching Axle is a possibility but also the best play for Rad if he is scum because it is Mylo. Lynching him is a coin flip completely and town again wins or loses on basically blind luck.
No Lynch looks like an option but only helps if Axle is actually the last scum and he kills me or rad, which a good scum player would never do because you want to kill the least controversial player, not one of the most.
So basically either rad is scum and wins the game right now or he is town and we lynch Axle.
# --- #Vote Axlegreaser
# --- #Vote Axlegreaser
with this.
On December 14 2012 16:18 yamato77 wrote:
axle if you vote for rad I will vote for him but otherwise you should just vote for me and end this game.
If you were voting for me because you thought I was one of the two most likely people to be scum
why are you now, talking to me about not voting for you when i have not even done that yet?
Do you know something I don't?
Wouldn't it be more profitable to talk to Rad or Syl?
or present reasons why you think other people should vote for you top scum read instead?
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If you think rad is most likely to be scum why did you vote for me?
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## Vote Yamato77
it is still quite while to days end, but that is fairly hefty nail unless I misunderstood something.
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This would be the first question to address as it happened recently while i was calm and thought i knew what
was going on for sure.
As it happened relatively recently you should know why too.
On December 14 2012 19:02 AxleGreaser wrote:
If you think rad is most likely to be scum why did you vote for me?
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Rad I do have one question for you but i would like to ask when we are both here together.
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One thing that occurred to me is that Yam also played a bit like this in XXX1 which is why my feel reads were based on earlier posts. I will now start posting why I believe Yam is Scum.
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You guys as you are mafia players dont deel the need to explain stuff I do as i dont know if we have shared common understanding of how I hunt. As such lots of spoiler boxes so you can ignore what you dont need.
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There was point back there where I showed clear intent. What for should not matter, clearly (while I was doing it) I was after something. if you were interested in finding out if I was scum, I would suggest watching and then when it is over asking questions. If I am scum letting me go on will just dig the hole if there is one deeper, if it is misunderstanding there will eventually be so much consistent intent that when explained it will be clear.
The observed sequence
+ Show Spoiler +That starts here Where Yamato observes enough of “something” to unvote me. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17128889This has clear directed question about what oats intentions are when helping a player. Clearly I think scum hunting related. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17128988Yamato chucks this in. {once} + Show Spoiler +I have intent and go on , and on. Again Yamato chucks this in. {twice} + Show Spoiler +Again Yamato chucks this in. {three times} + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17129692It is big wall of text post it is not like he just wrote it. Clearly it ought have some intention as effort went into it why now? Is it because the first two attempts at distracting from the scum buddy failed? Notice that it ends
A lot of your posting this game has been about "this looks suspicious" or something of that nature. Everything can "look suspicious" from a town POV, but you feel the need to say it a lot. Why?
Eventually here I look like I just wander aimlessly off. (remember at that times oats was not confirmed scum) + Show Spoiler +I think i will find if I squeeze hard enough people may well give off scum tell, if I find out what i want and they don't know what that is, and they are scum I expect to notice their behavior change. In the face of a new or perceived threat.
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On December 04 2012 22:01 yamato77 wrote:
Kick is playing different from last game. Gonna have to read his filter from Mario Mini.
While that is an interesting observation if it is true.
What did Yam intend to happen next and why?
I believe he hoped i would go do that rather than continue to question Oats.
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The third post was this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17129692
+ Show Spoiler + My strategy this game is far more aggressive than it was the previous game at the beginning. If I am town, my main objective day 1, especially early, is to provoke discussion and responses. The more information I can garner from people, the stronger my reads on them can become.
I know I do keep going down the road, but "If I am town," is an interesting thing for someone who is town to say.
"Up to that point, only Axle had seemed to willingly ignore me so I went after him. People that don't want to give up information are either scum or blue, because they both have something to hide."
Why think about hunting blue?
"What my focus now has become is why you have started to throw suspicion around on players who are looking into people's play early."
Does Yamato thinks there is special reason why people should not examine peoples early play?
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On December 15 2012 00:14 Rad wrote:
Axle, please just leave your question for me and I'll respond. I, again, have to work all day, pretty much up until close to the lynch time. If you just leave me your question I'll get back to it as soon as I can, and I promise I'll answer it well before deadline, but you can't expect us both to be on at the same time to have some sort of 1 on 1 back and forth. It's just not going to happen because of my availability (or lack there of) during my work day.
It took me a while but I answered my questions for myself. The most recent problem was post where you seemed to know who would get nk'd. I think I understand what you were thinking when you said that now.
So no I now cant see myself voting for anyone except Yam.
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Well what can I say, that was an experience. I felt arggh, I felt laughter, I felt many things. One thing is true I learn from everything I do, I just cant help doing that. Normally the chant is play play play, I am me I know me best of all, for now I play best slow, first I must digest what I have learned. Normally before people play even once I suspect they do a certain amount of concrete learning about what is normal so they don't make a mess. I think I might thus go back and do things in a more normal order. However I am relatively sure I played a novel game of mafia, and some people like new things best of all. Apparently some people like me like them a lot. I felt nervous as soon as I signed /in. Clicking on the obs link looks even more ominous. Well what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and I am tougher than I look so obs link it is for me. This time a little wiser I hope. Basically, Its all good. GLHF
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I would comment on the game itself but I don't yet really know what happened, apart from the obvious details, I have to reevaluate many things with the skills I have learned in the past N days.
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