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austinmcc
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debears
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Keirathi
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We just talked on irc. | ||
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austinmcc
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On December 06 2012 07:27 Keirathi wrote: We didn't have a QT. We just talked on irc. And you didn't log at all? Copy paste into notepad? | ||
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Keirathi
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We've pushed/attacked/defended the same targets, which are the only people we've talked a ton about. I don't see what benefit sharing them would be at this point. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:37 Keirathi wrote: What benefit does me sharing them give? We've pushed/attacked/defended the same targets, which are the only people we've talked a ton about. I don't see what benefit sharing them would be at this point. I'd like to see what WBG said. I'd like to be able to make up my mind on you. IF you're town, you should be seeing yourself as a possible target tonight, and trying to get information into thread. If you don't share, and scum kills you 20 minutes from now, we just lost those logs. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
First off, Kei is town. He's been not as helpful as he's capable of, and is insistent on tunnelling me, and he's scummy as hell and refuses to meaningfully contribute to scumhunting unless strongarmed into it, but he's the other half of a confirmed mason pair for which one flipped. He's town. This isn't a bastard mod game so there's no reason to doubt his claim. To me MrZ is town. I've laid out why the two of us are town and if you have a town read on me (which you should, given that everything I've done all game is help town in a way that makes 0 sense for scum) then you should have a town read on him. He is my Mason partner, and my mod PM tells me so. DYH is town. Some people may have doubts, but the Vigi claim with like 20 seconds left before he gets lynched, which occures at 08:00 when he knew he was gonna flip, tells me he's really the vigi. Yes, he's playing like a lazy ass since D1, and yes, he was scummy D1, but he's confirmed town and beyond reproach. I'd like to see him make a case against LM that actually, say, talks about how LM has played but there's nothing I can do to make him do that. In any case: he's town This leaves us with 4 confirmed players, and 6 unconfirmed players. Scum will gradually shoot into the confirmed players while we lynch into the unconfirmed players, and assuming there are 3 scum, 1 kp, and no weirdness with a Doctor (reasonable given the number of claims so far) we have 1 mislynch before LYLO. BH confirmed Ace/Kei confirmed MrZ confirmed DYH confirmed DYH I don't think you're particularly going down a rabit hole. There are 6 players who aren't confirmed and probably 3 scum among them. Assuming we lynch carefully I don't see this being a huge problem. I don't think sandroba or debears are scum, but sandroba hasn't done an amazing job of acquitting himself. debears has been open with his reads and interacting with people attempting to flesh out his reads. He's not afraid to say dumb things, then retract them, which indicates a town-like fearlessness to me. Debears town. Sandro has made some decent posts but I wouldn't give him a strong townread like I give debears, but he's not scummy. I don't like that Xatalos has been fairly inactive in the past few days, contributing a relatively small number of posts. That being said, his interactions with WBG trying to reason out reads, and his defense of WBG early in D2 sounds reasonable and townie to me. He's clearly watching the thread for scummy moves and updating his analysis-- look how he gradually develops a townread on Kei and affirms his on WBG throughout D2, then when MrZ swaps over to WBG (because I asked him to) Xatalos immediately thinks something is up since this wasn't something MrZ would do on his own. The fact that Xatalos is being this analytical makes him my top town-read. This guy isn't posting a whirlwind of posts but he's smart, he's reading the thread, and he's trying to figure things out. He catches small things that doesn't make sense and calls them out. He is town. Xatalos - Town+++ debears - Town ish Dandel/Sandro - Town ish Shiaopi is a sheep. I think that much has been made clear over and over again in the thread. I don't think he's an amazing lynch though, because a lot of his sheeping has been basically what you'd expect a newer player to do. I don't like that he keeps on stalling and saying he'll be back later. I don't like that he hasn't been contributing. I don't think he should be our lynch tomorrow though. Not just for playing like a newb. I'd rather lynch him than debears or sandro, but not by much. LM - DYH clearly doesn't want to write an actual case against LM because he's a lazy ass, despite my prodding. I'll help a brotha out. First off, when LM attacks Zealos early in D1 he clearly isn't paying close attention to Zealos and getting a scumread on him, he's attacking first then trying to find things to substantiate his attack. Take a look at his attack on Zealos in which he asks zealos about soft-defending a guy then quotes him hard defending a guy. His early attacks on shiaopi doens't make sense, and he responds to DP with an OMGUS. I don't like how he's played, or how he hasn't tried to develop his reads in a meaningful way with other players D1. I will say though that since he was a lynch target that could have intefered with it. He is not as scummy as austin. Austin. I don't like either of his D1 cases. I don't like that he didn't specify a top scumread until asked about it later. His interactions with VE are wooden On December 01 2012 03:44 austinmcc wrote: Beyond debears and Ace's marv vote, did anything, or the lack of some things, interest you? On December 01 2012 11:06 austinmcc wrote: Wat? I'm assuming I said this in a past game? On December 01 2012 11:38 austinmcc wrote: Not me. I have a super secret method of reading you. On December 02 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote: Why exactly are you voting Xatalos? He's scum hiding inside a tunnel = he's doing nothing but tunneling someone as a way to look active when he's doing nothing? None of this even remotely compares to how he interacts with, say, debears, or other players where he asks pointed questions, writes long responses, etc. He's trying to fake a "friendly banter" with VE here. I don't like it, especially in context of what I've written above. It sounds ungenuine and faked. Shiao - scum ish LM - scum ish austin - scum If I wake up dead, my recommendation is to lynch austin. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:40 austinmcc wrote: I'd like to see what WBG said. I'd like to be able to make up my mind on you. IF you're town, you should be seeing yourself as a possible target tonight, and trying to get information into thread. If you don't share, and scum kills you 20 minutes from now, we just lost those logs. There's nothing in them though, aside from talking about why we thought LM and Sandro were town on night 1 (both of which we talked about in thread). But fine. Some completely irrelevent logs: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QBRLPK9B Re: the spreadsheet (which I was going to share anyways), its public, but it hasn't been changed at all since the middle of night 1. | ||
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austinmcc
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Blazinghand
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peace + Show Spoiler + <Blazinghand> then I'll be like, a few minutes later "because it was LARGE. LARGE." <Blazinghand> and then you can be like "wow way to brick that shot, blazinghand. I thought you had good jokes" <Blazinghand> maybe i'll use a different joke than a penis joke <MrZentor> XD <MrZentor> Best mason buddy ever <Blazinghand> in any case, I was thinking about mason tactics <Blazinghand> it might be easiest if we just never attack each other ever <MrZentor> I think I might just say something about 4 or 7 <MrZentor> Traditionally medieval stonemasons served a seven-year apprenticeship. A similar system still operates today. A modern apprenticeship lasts four years. <Blazinghand> ok <Blazinghand> whatever works for you <MrZentor> I think that brick might be a little too <MrZentor> Well <MrZentor> Obvious <MrZentor> I might just be being <MrZentor> PARANOID <Blazinghand> so I guess you might want to use a different crumb <Blazinghand> nobody ever finds my crumbs because I post like <Blazinghand> 40 posts per day <MrZentor> Yeah.. * Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine). * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). * Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine). <MrZentor> do you believe marv's claim <Blazinghand> um <Blazinghand> not really but you can't lynch a claimed blue D1 <MrZentor> there isn't much time <MrZentor> :/ <MrZentor> Who should we lynch <Blazinghand> well I still kinda like DP. But what are your thoughts <Blazinghand> my reads this game haven't been as good as I'd like <MrZentor> Yeah, I usually can find somebody I'm sure is mafia <MrZentor> but this game is weird <MrZentor> I'd like to kill DoYouHas <Blazinghand> ah what's the case on him <MrZentor> But I don't think I can convince the whole town in an hour <Blazinghand> hm <MrZentor> Welll <Blazinghand> so I mean i'd be okay with a DYH lynch <Blazinghand> he's one of my null reads <MrZentor> His posts are funny <MrZentor> All mechanical <MrZentor> and uptight <MrZentor> read them <Blazinghand> so my current reads are shiapi town, VE town, Zealos semi town, austinmcc town, DP scum, marv scum <Blazinghand> everyone else null <MrZentor> I thought debears was town <MrZentor> and I think DP is too <Blazinghand> hm <Blazinghand> okay so we could go for DYH <Blazinghand> i mean we don't need to convince tha tmany people <Blazinghand> almost no-one has more than like 2 votes <MrZentor> Yeah it's weird <Blazinghand> have you posted a DYH case? I could be like "yeah I agree" and vote for him <MrZentor> idk <MrZentor> meh DP might be scum <Blazinghand> well like i'm not actually as sure on DP as I claim to be in the thread <Blazinghand> the meta case isn't great <Blazinghand> I always put a strong face forwards though because how people react tells us about them <Blazinghand> I personally think he's a solid lynch <Blazinghand> but DYH could also be a good lynch <Blazinghand> I'll read his filter now <Blazinghand> no matter what, you and I will never be lynched btw <Blazinghand> because we are masons <MrZentor> Yeah <Blazinghand> so don't worry about that <MrZentor> Unless we go afk <MrZentor> or something <Blazinghand> lol <Blazinghand> yeah <MrZentor> DP just seems a little too loose and care free to be mafia <MrZentor> meh <MrZentor> But how he jumps on you for bizarre behavior <MrZentor> attacking me <MrZentor> then saying im not scum <MrZentor> When that's just bizarre behavior and not scum behavior <Blazinghand> DP and I do have a bit of a history of butting heads <Blazinghand> so I didn't notice that in particular <Blazinghand> but that's a good point <MrZentor> I'm going to get Marv to post his pm <Blazinghand> oh he uh <Blazinghand> can't do that <MrZentor> look what I posted <MrZentor> But it says he can <Blazinghand> ah <MrZentor> yeah idk <Blazinghand> so <Blazinghand> a DYH switch is possible <MrZentor> yeah I'm gonna go for it <MrZentor> Also you're whole <Blazinghand> hm <MrZentor> Zentor I like where you're goint but I need some more explanation <MrZentor> thing <MrZentor> was so faked I nearly burst out laughing <MrZentor> XD <Blazinghand> LOL <Blazinghand> i'm really bad at faking interactions <Blazinghand> I'm actually like probably one of the worst scum players <MrZentor> I'm having doubts about DYH after his last post <MrZentor> :/ <Blazinghand> LOL <Blazinghand> don't <Blazinghand> those posts are meaningles <Blazinghand> scum always makes that post <Blazinghand> so does town <MrZentor> I know, but it always scares me. <Blazinghand> everyone makes that post <Blazinghand> that post is a null tell <Blazinghand> if he was scum or town he makes that post <MrZentor> I always feel sorry for them though <MrZentor> :/ <Blazinghand> your case against him still stands <Blazinghand> if he's town he played in a way to get lynched <Blazinghand> and if he's scum, we shall celebrate in 3 minutes <Blazinghand> SWAP <Blazinghand> SWAP NOW TO DP <MrZentor> NOOOOOOOOO <MrZentor> too late <MrZentor> ARGH <Blazinghand> lol I didn't even have time to boldface <MrZentor> yeah <MrZentor> I just copy pasted yours as soon as I could <MrZentor> It would be hilarious if the mods mod-killed all the people who posted after hopeless's post <Blazinghand> LOL <Blazinghand> oh man i'm excited <MrZentor> lol <MrZentor> I'm pretty sure we killed DYH <Blazinghand> no I don't think we did <Blazinghand> I think by 1 vote <Blazinghand> we killed DP <MrZentor> Really? <MrZentor> lol look at DP <MrZentor> his post <Blazinghand> LOL <MrZentor> XD <Blazinghand> oh man <Blazinghand> that anger <MrZentor> full of rage <Blazinghand> also like <MrZentor> I bet he's vanilla town <MrZentor> lol <Blazinghand> yeah honestly <Blazinghand> he's gonna get modkilled for that <Blazinghand> since he's the one getting lynched <Blazinghand> and he's posting after the lynch deadline <MrZentor> yeah he died <MrZentor> vanilla <MrZentor> townie <MrZentor> Assuming the two claims are genuine <MrZentor> The mafia knows our cop <MrZentor> and our vigil <MrZentor> Greatttt <Blazinghand> so yeah mafia is gonna RB DYH <Blazinghand> and shoot Marv <Blazinghand> like 100% <Blazinghand> there's probably one other blue out there <Blazinghand> maybe a JK or a town RB <Blazinghand> hey uh <Blazinghand> what's your role name <Blazinghand> btw <Blazinghand> i'm Yoda <MrZentor> What <Blazinghand> debears is talking about like <Blazinghand> role name / fluff stuff <MrZentor> Mace windu <Blazinghand> ok what's the wording of your PM <Blazinghand> one sec <MrZentor> idk who that is <Blazinghand> he's a jedy master <Blazinghand> like yoda <MrZentor> You are Mace Windu. A member of the Jedi Council. You know your fellow councilmember, BlazingHand, is town. You may communicate with them outside the thread. (mason) <Blazinghand> You are Yoda. A member of the Jedi Council. You know your fellow councilmember, MrZentor, is town. You may communicate with them outside the thread. (mason) <Blazinghand> yeah <Blazinghand> I dunno what debears is thinking <Blazinghand> I think the "jedi council" fluff is just for us though <Blazinghand> so we shouldn't claim our names or fluff because scum might figure out we're blue from it <Blazinghand> oh wait <Blazinghand> ok no DP's role <Blazinghand> was star wars related <Blazinghand> so he has the same fluff as us <Blazinghand> ok yeah marv has different fluff <Blazinghand> but the wording of his pm is the same <Blazinghand> I don't think we can on fluff grounds say marv is scum <MrZentor> So we have starwars fluff <MrZentor> and he has mythbusters fluff <Blazinghand> yeah there could easily be two types of fluff in this game <Blazinghand> I asked DYH to post his fluff <Blazinghand> that could give us more info <MrZentor> Wait <MrZentor> DP had battlestart galactica fluff <Blazinghand> oh <Blazinghand> lol <Blazinghand> I am not like <MrZentor> just googled it lol <Blazinghand> gotcha <Blazinghand> so it's all from different shows <Blazinghand> so the fluff theme is "shows and movies" * Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine). <Blazinghand> in case i'm shot tonight, i'm leaving a crumb for you <Blazinghand> it'll be based on the word "trust" <Blazinghand> it'll let you confirm a mason claim if I flip <MrZentor> k <MrZentor> if they're planning on shooting you <MrZentor> we should claim before they do <Blazinghand> huh <Blazinghand> no no <Blazinghand> then SCUM will shoot us <Blazinghand> if DYH shoot sme so be it <MrZentor> no <Blazinghand> we'll still have 2 confirmed townies tomorrow <MrZentor> I'd rather scum waste a shot <MrZentor> than our vigi <Blazinghand> hm <Blazinghand> so you want to claim? <Blazinghand> there's an hour left <Blazinghand> want to do so now? <Blazinghand> you there? <MrZentor> OkaWait <MrZentor> Say something like <Blazinghand> I'm just gonna post my role PM and say "I'm mason with MRZ" <Blazinghand> you do the same thign at the same time <Blazinghand> and we'll be good <MrZentor> No wait <MrZentor> You saved DYH <Blazinghand> yeah <Blazinghand> I mentioned that <MrZentor> When you could have easily let him die <Blazinghand> in thread <Blazinghand> are you reading the thread? <MrZentor> Yes <MrZentor> Say directly to doyouhas <MrZentor> That there is no reason for scum to do that <Blazinghand> ok <MrZentor> except if they were saving their scum buddy <MrZentor> so basically you're townie in DYH's eyes <MrZentor> if he is vigil <Blazinghand> so uh you want me to not claim or to claim? <MrZentor> yet <MrZentor> at least <MrZentor> Dont claim <Blazinghand> ok <MrZentor> If that doesn't work we'll claim <Blazinghand> he might not even be around <Blazinghand> i'll ask if he's around <Blazinghand> because if he's not around honestly it doesn't matter <MrZentor> wait if somebody dies during the night <MrZentor> their action still goes through right <Blazinghand> yes <MrZentor> I can't tell if Keir is being stupid <MrZentor> or if he's mafia trying to get you killed <Blazinghand> yeah... <Blazinghand> hard to tell <Blazinghand> i'm leaning scummy on him atm but honestly this isn't enough to make a read. <MrZentor> I always assume that if people are replaced <MrZentor> they're town <Blazinghand> well, most hosts replace all people, town OR scum <Blazinghand> in Mario Mini, Djoref replaced in for thrawn and he was scum <MrZentor> yeah but I think somebody who is scum <MrZentor> would want to stay in the game <MrZentor> than a normal townie <MrZentor> It might be because I enjoy being scum way more than I should <Blazinghand> that's not good logic imo <Blazinghand> people often replace because like shit happens in their lives <MrZentor> I like how everybody posts after the mod says to not post <MrZentor> XD <Blazinghand> everyone was waiting until exactly 0800 forum time to drop their huge posts <MrZentor> Yeah <MrZentor> This is the second time though <MrZentor>  <Blazinghand> lol <Blazinghand> man these have been some aciton packed deadlines <MrZentor> yeah <Blazinghand> okay, so the question I guess is do we want to claim tomorrow <MrZentor> It reminds me of Death factory mafia <MrZentor> man <MrZentor> that was intense <Blazinghand> I specced that game <Blazinghand> it was sweet <MrZentor> Probably <Blazinghand> I guess the real thing is to see if there's a wagon on me or not <Blazinghand> like, if not, there's no real reason to claim <MrZentor> "MrZentor seems Lol" <MrZentor> What is that supposed to me <MrZentor> an <Blazinghand> I have no idea <Blazinghand> I think you actually look very town for the hard defense of me <Blazinghand> scum doesn't do hard defenses of anyone, really <MrZentor> I look more town than I usually do.. <Blazinghand> not in the middle of the night <MrZentor> I want to see who died <MrZentor>  <MrZentor> WOOT <MrZentor> VE THE GOON <Blazinghand> NICE <MrZentor> "Mafia Goon. You may carry an NK. You win with scum. Your team consists of yeah right, that would be embarrassing." <MrZentor> lol <Blazinghand> lol <Blazinghand> nice <Blazinghand> so I don't like keirathi's attack of me a huge amount, but I'm not sure whether that makes him scum or not <MrZentor> yeahh <MrZentor> I also don't know how to take his <MrZentor> nice shot response <Blazinghand> meh, it's fluff <Blazinghand> as town you'd say that to congratulate DYH <Blazinghand> as scum you'd do the same <MrZentor> So we have 3 confirmed townies <MrZentor> out of 4 people <MrZentor> 12 <MrZentor> people <Blazinghand> right <Blazinghand> which means in the remaining 9 the 3 scum lurk <Blazinghand> what's your read on debears? <MrZentor> Hmm <MrZentor> that was Ve's first vote <MrZentor> so idk <Blazinghand> VE busses all the time <Blazinghand> I guess we should see how HE interacts with VE <Blazinghand> rather than vice versa <MrZentor> But still <MrZentor> the first vote? <MrZentor> idk <Blazinghand> the first vote makes even more sense than a later vote <Blazinghand> because you usually move away from the first vote <Blazinghand> at some point <MrZentor> Let me see <MrZentor> ##Vote: dabears <MrZentor> ##Vote: Xatalos <MrZentor> ##Unvote ##Vote: Zealos <MrZentor> ##Unvote ##Vote: DarthPunk <MrZentor> ##Unvote: DarthPunk ##Vote: DoYouHas <Blazinghand> yeah see given how much he moved his vote around <MrZentor> Yeah <MrZentor> Wow <Blazinghand> the fact that his first vote was for debears <Blazinghand> doesn't really mean anything imo <MrZentor> I'm getting really sick of Keirathi <Blazinghand> he might just be scum pushing scum agenda * MrZentor has quit (Quit: Page closed) * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). <Blazinghand> yo i'm back <Blazinghand> catching up with thread now <MrZentor> idk... <Blazinghand> yo <Blazinghand> so what are your reads right now <Blazinghand> I'm iffy on Shiao and I still think Keirathi is a solid lynch <Blazinghand> though he looks a bit better now <MrZentor> Dandelion/Sandroba----- WBG ShiaoPi Austinmcc LazerMonkey <Blazinghand> as your scumreads? <MrZentor> The people I don't think are town <MrZentor> basically <MrZentor> I'm not as sure about Keirathi as I was <Blazinghand> I see <Blazinghand> let's talk about WBG <MrZentor> What do you think of gim? <MrZentor> c: <MrZentor> him <Blazinghand> I don't like him, but all I have is a general feel that he's scummy <Blazinghand> I feel like a town WBG is more useful than this WBG <MrZentor> Yeah I've never been able to read WBG <MrZentor> I'm hoping he gets shot during the next night phase <Blazinghand> looking at his filter he seems confrontational and aggressive but not as helpful, not as willing to draw out other players into conversations <Blazinghand> I'm not sure WBG is actually contributing to the town atmosphere. <Blazinghand> yo man <Blazinghand> you there? <Blazinghand> I'm voting WBG <Blazinghand> dude <MrZentor> Hmm <Blazinghand> check my case <Blazinghand> let me know what you think <Blazinghand> i just posted a vote as well <MrZentor> Hmm <MrZentor> It was good in that you showed he wasn't promoting a good town environment <Blazinghand> I see no reason for WBG to do this <Blazinghand> other than that he's scum <MrZentor> You should have said something like <Blazinghand> I can add it in now <MrZentor> WBG should know better than to do this <MrZentor> or somehting <Blazinghand> " I expect more out of WBG. " <Blazinghand> I have that <Blazinghand> I also have "Oh yeah and he clearly didn't read my post about ShiaoPi and Keirathi, he just wanted to slap it down and lay on the insults. This isn't how you play mafia, this isn't how you hunt scum." <Blazinghand> in any case it's not super WBG meta specific <Blazinghand> it's just pretty clear he's pushing a scum agenda <MrZentor> Yeah <MrZentor> I kind of want to vote for him <Blazinghand> if you want to vote him wait <Blazinghand> don't do it just yet <MrZentor> But that might really suspicious.. <Blazinghand> well <Blazinghand> it's fine if you're the next vote <Blazinghand> actually, you should write up some addons to my case <Blazinghand> and post them and vote <Blazinghand> it's fine if we vote together <Blazinghand> it'll make our mason claim stronger <MrZentor> I might write "IM SPONTANEOUS ##Vote:WBG" <Blazinghand> if we're working together in the thread <Blazinghand> no don't make your vote seem weak <Blazinghand> that's what scum does when they work together <MrZentor> lol <MrZentor> that's what's fun though <MrZentor> XD <MrZentor> It's going to appear pretty weak anyways.. <Blazinghand> you should post the stuff you said above about like "WBG should know better" <MrZentor> I'll vote in half an hour <Blazinghand> and say "I agree with blazinghand" <Blazinghand> and then be like "in fact, WBG has seemed 'off' to me all game! and now I understand why." <Blazinghand> don't be afraid to vote too close to me time-wise <Blazinghand> and the reason I say this is that this WBG wagon will be hard <Blazinghand> people don't like lynching vets <MrZentor> Everybody's going to hate me for being fickle <MrZentor> There <Blazinghand> :D <Blazinghand> someone else posted <Blazinghand> I think we've expressed what everyone else was already thinking <Blazinghand> but was afraid to say <MrZentor> Being a mason is awesome <Blazinghand> yeah it's been really great to have you to bounce reads off of <Blazinghand> and knowing that like we're both unlynchable <Blazinghand> since if it comes down to it we can claim <MrZentor> I love how you made a case against me <MrZentor> That's absolutely hilarious XD * MrZentor has quit (Quit: Page closed) * Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine). <MrZentor> Why aren't you voting for WBG <MrZentor> Nvm.. <MrZentor> WHAT <MrZentor> THEY CANT BE MASONS <MrZentor> THEY ARE SO SCUM <MrZentor> RIGHT <Blazinghand> yes * Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine). * Blazinghand sets mode +i Blazinghand <Blazinghand> well I think we just won. <MrZentor> Yeah <MrZentor> Well <MrZentor> I hope so <Blazinghand> yup <MrZentor> I hope the game doesn't live up to its name <MrZentor> Because I'd hate for you to be scum <MrZentor> or something stupid like that <MrZentor> But after Keir's last post <MrZentor> I'm more certain they're scum <Blazinghand> i highly doubt this game is bastard modded <Blazinghand> and I doubt even more than there are 6 blues <MrZentor> argh <MrZentor> GIMME THE FLIP <Blazinghand> lol <MrZentor> There are always at least 3 posts after the <MrZentor> please refrain from posting <MrZentor> post <Blazinghand> lol <MrZentor> Ugh <MrZentor> 6 posts <MrZentor> and no night posts <Blazinghand> i keep on refreshing <Blazinghand> lol <MrZentor> ARGH\ <MrZentor> MROE POPCORN <MrZentor> okay <MrZentor> 4 masons <MrZentor> wtf <Blazinghand> welp <Blazinghand> at least we won't waste a mislynch on Kei <MrZentor> we suck * Disconnected (An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine). * MrZentor has quit (Quit: Page closed) * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
MrZentor/BH/DYH - town. The end. ShiaoPi - scum for obvious reasons. Kill with fire PLZ. Keir - While I think it's absolutely crazy that we would have 2 mason pair, where one of them are autoconfirmed to each other, I don't think we can hold such things against someone. You should vote because you find a person scummy, NOT because you find it wierd that there are too many masons(or any other role for that matter). This is especially relevant because we are in a closed setup. So, I don't actually find Keirs play scummy. His interactions with WBG during the lynch feelt geniune and town. I also think the way he pushed BH earlier was stupid in a way but it was something a scum probebly never should ever dare to do. Another, albeit somewhat WIFOMy, is the fact that I don't think scum Keir would put down SO much effort in trying to save WBG. Xata - I'm starting to reconsider my earlier town read on him. I don't like is the fact that he hasn't truly put down his foot and said ''I really think this guy is scum, we should lynch him'' yet. Yes, I know that this is basically did just this with ShiaoPi but bear in mind that he is probebly dead no matter what and that this could very well be a buss attempt from his side. Just look through his filter if you don't get what I mean. I will probebly look more into this during the day tho. Austin - I think he is quite town except for the fact that his interactions with ShiaoPi have indeed been strange as hell. Haven't looked too much into him tho, will probebly do a deeper analysis later. Debears - Probebly town. Sandroba - I haven't done very much analysis on him either. However one of his posts earlier today caught my attention a bit. On December 05 2012 21:28 sandroba wrote: Remember that Sandrobawas not present during the lynch. Not even close, He basically went afk about 12 hours before it. Also, he doesn't actually comment on anything regarding the lynch. Just that it's bad. Saying stuff like this risk to demoralize town. So why would someone as town say this? I really don't see the motivation for it. Not really lych worthy but still. I will look more closely into sandroba later.wow. you guys. really. you make me sad. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
BH/MrZ town. Still town on debears and sandro. Still scum on ShiaoPi/austin. | ||
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
This sequence of posts On December 02 2012 08:59 debears wrote: I have a feeling we could confirm most of town right now.........garrrrrrrrrr On December 02 2012 09:01 debears wrote: My role pm is different from the two presented so far On December 02 2012 09:03 debears wrote: Because its different in a way scum would not know On December 02 2012 09:05 debears wrote: Actually nvm. I think we should save it for lylo It could be helpful. EVERYONE WHO IS TOWN. LOOK AT YOUR ROLE PM COMPARED TO MARV'S AND THE ONE REVEALED TO BE DP'S DON'T REVEAL IF IT'S DIFFERENT YET. WAIT UNTIL LYLO IF NEED BE THEN REVEAL On December 02 2012 09:06 debears wrote: No joke I might have won us the game at lylo On December 02 2012 09:29 debears wrote: Ok scratch the role claim idea at lylo. I let jingle know the situation. I don't want to break the game for a stupid role pm play. Let's win this for real :D This seems to me like a genuine sequence of posts. This looks to me like he looked at his role PM, realized it was different than marv's PM and DP's PM, and realized that if we mass claimed all at once it would reveal something that would confirm town. (My first thought was that if mafia got copies of role PM's instead of unique ones then a mass claim would reveal double claims, giving us a bunch of 50/50 lynches. However, I don't know what debears plan actually was, but I believe he did come up with something, and he did interact with host about it.) If you think debears is scum, then you think that this whole sequence was an elaborate lie, because it is certainly townie otherwise. Why I read Shiaopi as town + Show Spoiler + Lazer is scum. If you look at Lazer's filter, he has been going pretty consistantly after Shiaopi from day1. It also doesn't look like your standard distancing play from Lazer. It looks like he is actually pushing Shiaopi. So I ask you, which is more likely. Did Lazer decide early on to go with a bussing strat when there was very little reason to? Or did Lazer go after Shiaopi because Shiaopi's play so far is exactly what inexperienced scum look for in a target? The latter is far more likely. Why Xatalos should seriously be on the table for scum + Show Spoiler + What has Xata actually done since day1? He has played the reasonable middleground this entire game. Nobody else finds that suspicious? Look at his most recent post. He is willing to admit that austin makes sense for a scumteam, but is only willing to push him after we lynch Shiaopi. (Shiaopi flips town, Xata can freely back off his accusation of austin. Then come out with a post saying that as improbable as it is, the only team that makes sense includes BH/MrZ or debears/Sandro. Nicely deflecting at least 2 lynches away from himself, austin, and Lazer.) | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I am a watcher. N1 I watched marvellosity. Sandroba, and only Sandroba, visited him. Therefore, Sandroba killed marvellosity. Therefore, Sandroba. If you look at my D2, I ask Sandroba a couple questions, some concerning his reads on ShiaoPi and WBG, especially his defense of WBG. This is one reason I ended up locked in on WBG and not wanting to lynch ShiaoPi, and one reason I've been weird about ShiaoPi. Sandroba dropped a vote and ShiaoPi early and was gone for much of the rest of the day, and defended WBG in this odd manner. In my mind, knowing that Sandroba was scum, it made the choice between the two easy - lynch WBG. I didn't claim because I actually thought WBG was scum, that there was no need to claim to ensure a scum lynch. Now, we've got a bit of uncertainty, so I can do so. We can lynch Sandroba to partially-confirm me if you guys would like, you can lynch me to confirm (not recommended). Tonight I am watching keirathi or BH. Still flipping back and forth between the two (5 minutes until end). Scum, non-sandroba scum, pretty please shoot the guy I'm watching. Right now I'm worried about the power roles in town. Confirmed cop, confirmed 1 mason pair of at least one townie, I'm confirmed watcher to me. That leaves a vigi...maybe? And maybe other masons. For a game in which scum had one KP N1 allegedly. Not buying it. Either DYH is scum or SK or scum has large numbers low KP, something. Otherwise, I've kind of been a bum as I am wont to be when blue, relying on role too much to play the game and not analysis, and also trying to wrap my head around CT mafia. Now that this is in the open, I can go back to playing normally. Slash what an awful end of night/claim post. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Day 3 Reprisals were afoot. Action had been taken, and the code called for justice. At the end of yet another relatively sleepless night, people gathered in Liquidia Park to resume the arguments, dreading what they might find. Sure enough, there was a grave marker. It read, VisceraEyes, one of our own, may this ease your passing. D1-N1. Over the marker lay the corpse of DoYouHas, ritually disfigured, battered, and broken. + Show Spoiler [Role PM] + You are a manic paranoiac clone of Chell. You aren't entirely sure why robots scare the piss out of you so bad, but they do. Sometimes you think you see one in a random place. These days, instead of a portal gun, you carry a 9mm. Unfortunately, you're a terrible shot and only have one magazine, so you'll only get to kill one person. Hopefully you pick the right one. (1 shot vigi.) You have 48 hours to decide who dies next. May GMarshal have mercy on their soul. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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DoYouHas
United States1140 Posts
GL Town! | ||
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