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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 19 2012 14:48 GMT
#3041
On November 19 2012 23:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 23:36 Kickstart wrote:
The fact that you find it suspicious that I say I am not clear at the moment on where to go if SnB does not flip scum is rather silly, because I would venture to say most people feel the same.

he is implying you already know the result of the lynch.


I really need to stop assuming people are aware of the obvious, if that bears explaining... =/
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 14:58 GMT
#3042
Yes, hence the if you think I'm the scummiest vote for me.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 19 2012 15:09 GMT
#3043
Wow is SnB still being a baby about this? Is he trying to play the "I'm too immature and mad to contribute, so my utter lack of any sort of contribution for the last 100 hours is actually a result of me being town, not scum" card?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 15:30 GMT
#3044
On November 19 2012 23:58 Kickstart wrote:
Yes, hence the if you think I'm the scummiest vote for me.


@ Kickstart

The problem was your formulation. You really sounded like you know the outcome of the lynch and that you'll start to read the filters only after this lynch.
If you doubt that S&B is going to flip scum, then you should start reading the filters right now, that's my point.
You are in no way looking worse than S&B right now but you should not get lazy and start to pursue other reads.

Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 15:32 GMT
#3045
Unless you have a 100% scum read on him. Then you should start to ask him why he is not conceding already. That's what I usually do
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 15:52 GMT
#3046
SnB why are you not conceding yet?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 15:55 GMT
#3047
On November 20 2012 00:52 Kickstart wrote:
SnB why are you not conceding yet?

lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 19 2012 16:12 GMT
#3048
Ugh Kickstart I got repect for you as a HoN player but this grows a bit tiring

That being said, I sat down with his filter, and I would not vote kickstart. I get a newbie town read from him, not a scum read. Some highlights from his filter that make me think he is town:

When he first arrives at the start of the game, he responds to hapa's questioning with a direct question, one that basically only a newbie would act. (link) He thinks he's putting on pressure here. He speaks out against the SnB wagon and explains his motives for questioning hapa (link), then develops a case on hapa (link). He soft defends SnB (link) and then responds to my claim by focusing on a hapa lynch (link).

He later directly butts heads with hapa (link) and suggests lynching both hapa and me (link).

He later moves his vote onto hopeless, then DP. Eventually, when the big hapa switch comes, he eagerly jumps on the wagon. This suggests to me he was waiting for an opportunity to really lynch hapa, especially given how he went head-to-head with hapa for much of D1. I don't think this is what a newbie scum with hapa and crossfire would do. Hapa made himself visible in the thread and kickstart reacted reasonably to him, made a case, supported it, drew a lot of fire for it, and ultimately contributed to the hapa lynch in a way that many on the hapa wagon can't honestly say they did.

Kickstart is a newbie, and hasn't contributed much in the past day, but I would not lynch him.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 19 2012 16:14 GMT
#3049
In any case, I'll understand if you disagree with my analysis here, and yes I didn't like Kickstart much at the end of N2 but that was for a very serious review of his filter. I am now utterly against lynching him today.



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When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 16:15 GMT
#3050
On November 20 2012 01:14 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, I'll understand if you disagree with my analysis here, and yes I didn't like Kickstart much at the end of N2 but that was for a very serious review of his filter. I am now utterly against lynching him today.



ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้

wtf happened with that post?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 16:16 GMT
#3051
i agree with your assessment by the way
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 16:35 GMT
#3052
On November 20 2012 01:14 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, I'll understand if you disagree with my analysis here, and yes I didn't like Kickstart much at the end of N2 but that was for a very serious review of his filter. I am now utterly against lynching him today.

ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้


I would just like to add that I don't see a newbie like Kickstart pull off a blue snipe on debears like this on his own. And I understand why he is getting lazy honestly.

@ S&B

You are not contributing, you are not present in the thread. It looks like you are giving up as any caught scum would do at this point.
Why are you not conceding ?

Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 19 2012 16:48 GMT
#3053
BTW, SnB, see that thing I just did there with kickstart? That whole "read his filter, do analysis, and make a read" thing? If you're town, that's what you need to do. You need to help find the last scum. Even if you think "oh I'll never convince BH, I'm gonna get lynched anyways" it's all the more important that you play the game. If you die without doing this, and flip town, you have failed. Well, you have failed more.

Whatever alignment you are, I recommend strongly against conceding. Play the game. Analyze. I know you're capable of it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 17:10 GMT
#3054
Enough with the concede talk the only person that can really decide if he is in an unwinnable situation is the scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 19 2012 17:12 GMT
#3055
On November 20 2012 01:48 Blazinghand wrote:
BTW, SnB, see that thing I just did there with kickstart? That whole "read his filter, do analysis, and make a read" thing? If you're town, that's what you need to do. You need to help find the last scum. Even if you think "oh I'll never convince BH, I'm gonna get lynched anyways" it's all the more important that you play the game. If you die without doing this, and flip town, you have failed. Well, you have failed more.

Whatever alignment you are, I recommend strongly against conceding. Play the game. Analyze. I know you're capable of it.


now that i think you're town i don't really want to win anymore because it means you win too

you're like drazerk2.0
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 19 2012 17:13 GMT
#3056
yeah but like on a personal note I don't want a potentially town SnB to be like "fuck these fuckers" and just be silent until he gets lynched. I want him to talk and offer reads and shit in case he flips town
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 19 2012 17:13 GMT
#3057
yeah if i could concede i totes would

##concede maybe this will work
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 19 2012 17:14 GMT
#3058
On November 20 2012 02:12 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 01:48 Blazinghand wrote:
BTW, SnB, see that thing I just did there with kickstart? That whole "read his filter, do analysis, and make a read" thing? If you're town, that's what you need to do. You need to help find the last scum. Even if you think "oh I'll never convince BH, I'm gonna get lynched anyways" it's all the more important that you play the game. If you die without doing this, and flip town, you have failed. Well, you have failed more.

Whatever alignment you are, I recommend strongly against conceding. Play the game. Analyze. I know you're capable of it.


now that i think you're town i don't really want to win anymore because it means you win too

you're like drazerk2.0


I understand the feeling, but you must realize a statement like that doesn't give me any reason to unvote you-- you could as easily say this as scum as town. If you're legitimate attempting to undermine the strong town victory that's currently under-way, remember that you have a win-con to play to. don't let emotions cloud your judgement. After all the hard and excellent work I've put in to win this game for the town I'd be pretty annoyed if you threw a tantrum and didn't help out.

Of course you're probably scum and this is all an act but I owe it to you to at least discuss with you.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 17:16 GMT
#3059
On November 20 2012 02:13 strongandbig wrote:
yeah if i could concede i totes would

##concede maybe this will work

was that real?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 19 2012 17:18 GMT
#3060
that would be funny but I'm gonna say "no" because as scum you typically concede by PMing the host
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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