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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 11:54 GMT
#3021
On November 19 2012 20:16 Kickstart wrote:
Yes it did, BH and hopeless are in the clear (although hopeless was cleared n1) who were people I was originally extremely suspicious of. Id say djos activity and sincerity about bh and wanting the mass claim, but his willingness to drop it and admit bh is as good as confirmed now puts him in a bit of better light. But I still feel the same about SnB, nothing has changed, the extra time has just given more of the same (he is completely inactive when there is no pressure on him, sure he posted a bit when he was gonna be lynched but that hardly tells us anything). Now once snb is gone things get a bit iffier for me, so I will have to read up on some people.


@ Kickstart
"Now once snb is gone things get a bit iffier for me, so I will have to read up on some people"
What do you mean by this ?
Don't you think that the game is going to be over when S&B dies ?
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 12:04 GMT
#3022
I would hope so.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 12:07 GMT
#3023
On November 19 2012 15:10 DarthPunk wrote:
lynch Djo clarity and S&B and I doubt we could lose this. THis game is a pain in the arse to keep up with. Far too many posts most of them are useless and are just repeating what has already been said. I am going to look through the filters of those three players and see if I can come up with anything.


@ DarthPunk

And what reasons do you have to lynch me exactly ? It might be worth it for all of us that you look at everybody again.
I'm expecting this kind of things from a guy who is on top of everybody town list. I would expect the same kind of things from the confirmed blues by the way. Your game in Acme is finished now (congrats by the way) and you should have enough time to spare with us now.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 12:10 GMT
#3024
On November 19 2012 21:04 Kickstart wrote:
I would hope so.


But weren't talking about what's going to happen when S&B dies ?
Do you just hope or do you have some real conviction that S&B is going to flip scum ?
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 12:37 GMT
#3025
Ive been saying from d1 i think he is scum, yes I think he is scum. Don't know how much clearer I can make it that i think SnB is scum. You guys are reading way too much into shit.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#3026
Kickstart were you around during D2 lynch?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 13:03 GMT
#3027
@ Kickstart

I'm sorry I'm French and sometimes it's hard for me to understand some sentences and it's also hard for me to get properly understood ^^

"Now once snb is gone things get a bit iffier for me, so I will have to read up on some people."

Could you rephrase it ? I'm not sure of what you meant...
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 19 2012 13:46 GMT
#3028
On November 19 2012 12:37 Djodref wrote:
Anyway, a zero T setup would have less than 1% chance to get rolled at the beginning in a classic C9++ game and the probability is even lower with Keir generator because the one-shot roles are replaced by Ts.

I wanted S&B to say this to me. I don't understand how S&B can have his vote on BH right now given the info we have.
MVCCDTT makes more sense, in term of probability and in term of play.
Your logic is fallacious right now S&B. Explain me how you can conclude that voting BH is still a good move now and I might unvote you.
##Vote S&B



The reason that I'm still voting BH is that I'm pissed off at him for insulting me and therefore I want him to die.

If we have no more blue claims then he's pretty much confirmed by the setup possibilities - the blues we already know about mean the setup must at least include MCCV. That's only three letters, and a TTT setup wouldn't include a godfather, so there has to be at least one more letter. So either there is another blue, or we have TTMCCDV and BH is confirmed. Unfortunately.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#3029
I'll try and reread the thread once I get to work, but don't expect another huge defense post. The only different reason you all have for voting me this time versus last time is that I post less when I'm not about to be lynched, and that I'm not here consistently at lynch time.

wow newsflash people, this just in: people don't like getting lynched!

seriously tell me why it's bad for a townie to post more when they're under suspicion. going above and beyond your normal activity/involvement level seems exactly like what a townie should do when they're under suspicion.

Oh hey it's another newsflash!
3AM is an inconvenient deadline! I have a life and do things other than play mafia! I also like to play video games, who would expect that a user on a video game site likes to play video games!

so yeah, last time I put a lot of effort into not getting lynched. This time the reasons for lynching me are even dumber, plus town is in a pretty great position regardless of whether or not I get killed, so don't expect me to do the same as before.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 19 2012 14:01 GMT
#3030
Convince us that someone is scummier than you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 14:20 GMT
#3031
S&b i went through your filter after day 1 once again. you literally make no comments regarding peoples alignments except BH. You cast suspicion on zbos but don't vote for him.

IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE LAST SCUM IS.

Their is almost no discourse with the town and all you do is defend and complain. So dont come in here and tell us the reasons for voting for you are stupid. You look like textbook scum to me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 19 2012 14:23 GMT
#3032
Hey iamp if you're around how do you feel about Kickstart right now? How do you feel about his last couple of posts?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 19 2012 14:23 GMT
#3033
On November 19 2012 22:46 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 12:37 Djodref wrote:
Anyway, a zero T setup would have less than 1% chance to get rolled at the beginning in a classic C9++ game and the probability is even lower with Keir generator because the one-shot roles are replaced by Ts.

I wanted S&B to say this to me. I don't understand how S&B can have his vote on BH right now given the info we have.
MVCCDTT makes more sense, in term of probability and in term of play.
Your logic is fallacious right now S&B. Explain me how you can conclude that voting BH is still a good move now and I might unvote you.
##Vote S&B



The reason that I'm still voting BH is that I'm pissed off at him for insulting me and therefore I want him to die.

If we have no more blue claims then he's pretty much confirmed by the setup possibilities - the blues we already know about mean the setup must at least include MCCV. That's only three letters, and a TTT setup wouldn't include a godfather, so there has to be at least one more letter. So either there is another blue, or we have TTMCCDV and BH is confirmed. Unfortunately.


@ S&B

Well, these are good reasons for putting your vote on someone but that's not going to happen and we have to play to win.
There is no other blue in my opinion.
Another Jailkeeper would have counterclaimed BH in ages.
A Town RoleBlocker would have blocked someone.
Another Vigilante would mean MCCVVVV which is unlikely as hell
Another Cop would mean MCCCCVT which is also quite unlikely, without adding the fact that we have no sign of an SK and that another Cop with 2 possible checks would solve us the game right away.

There is no other, the time for speculation is over. The setup is MVCCDTT, there is no SK and Hopeless is 100% confirmed Luigi the Vig and Blazinghand is 100% confirmed JailKeeper.
And the fact that they are 100% confirmed is great and that's what all this setup speculation gave us. So, yes, it is useful !
You should get your vote off BH's back now...
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 14:33 GMT
#3034
To rephrase since you asked: If SnB does not flip scum, then things aren't clear for me at the moment. And clarity is on a rather silly tangent with my "last couple of posts".
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 14:35 GMT
#3035
On November 19 2012 23:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hey iamp if you're around how do you feel about Kickstart right now? How do you feel about his last couple of posts?

still don't mind him that much
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 14:36 GMT
#3036
i get more of sense that he got lazy or bored.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 14:36 GMT
#3037
The fact that you find it suspicious that I say I am not clear at the moment on where to go if SnB does not flip scum is rather silly, because I would venture to say most people feel the same.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 19 2012 14:40 GMT
#3038
On November 19 2012 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
i get more of sense that he got lazy or bored.


It's rather annoying because I'm having trouble seeing the difference. Isn't it rather convenient to be "lazy/bored town"?
Although to be fair hopeless and darth have been doing that too.... sigh
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 19 2012 14:41 GMT
#3039
Kickstart, I don't find it suspicious since you clarified, djo was the one pushing you. Please don't "you" without explaining who you mean.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 19 2012 14:46 GMT
#3040
On November 19 2012 23:36 Kickstart wrote:
The fact that you find it suspicious that I say I am not clear at the moment on where to go if SnB does not flip scum is rather silly, because I would venture to say most people feel the same.

he is implying you already know the result of the lynch.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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