How can you claim JK day 1, claim VT night 1 (to mess with scum lololol), re-claim JK during resolution and then find a mass roleclaim suggestion so dumb it's not even worth thinking about.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:39 GMT

#2642

Cause my JK claim doesn't out any other blues. The issue with mass roleclaim is that it makes decisions for other people, who have more information and should be making that decision.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:39 GMT

#2643

And look, regardless of my bad play D1, the point stands: the last blue decides when he claims, not us.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 18 2012 07:41 GMT

#2644

Okay, so blazing do you think that if there is a cop, and he claims during resolution, everyone should claim after him?

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:43 GMT

#2645

Absolutely. There's only one blue left given the setup size (unless it's like 2 masons) and if the last scum decides to fake-claim blue, it's important that the last blue counter-claim him.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 18 2012 07:44 GMT

#2646

On November 18 2012 16:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Absolutely. There's only one blue left given the setup size (unless it's like 2 masons) and if the last scum decides to fake-claim blue, it's important that the last blue counter-claim him.

So you just admitted to not reading Djo's setup speculation at all.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:44 GMT

#2647

Also, if the last blue does claim everyone else claims VT freaking djoref will get off my damn case

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:45 GMT

#2648

On November 18 2012 16:44 Clarity_nl wrote:

Show nested quote +

So you just admitted to not reading Djo's setup speculation at all.

Yeah as a rule I don't read setup speculation ever

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:45 GMT

#2649

or make setup speculation beyond certain basic things like "town has blues" and "there are scum" and "the roles outlined in the op can be in the game" cause really it's a waste of time

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:47 GMT

#2650

Oh and some basic stuff like I think it's reasonable to assume there's a 3rd blue cause in games this size there are 3 blues or like 2 blues and 2 masons. I'm just assuming he's a DT since that woudl fit with JK + Vigi but maybe he's a vet I guess.

Really though the point is djoref's stuff was crap and not worth reading. Did I miss anything he said that was actually useful?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 18 2012 07:50 GMT

#2651

Sigh, I guess I can't read too much into you not reading Djo's stuff, but you seriously have been pissing me off all game so I have a hard time seeing if you're scum or not.
Anyway, djo proved there could be 4 blues, with the setup Keir used and the current info we have. Although it's unlikely.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:52 GMT

#2652

4 blues like high-quality blues, like JK Vigi DT DT? I'd be pretty surprised if that was the setup, but if it's possible according to the setup generator whatever. Really though, it should be up to the blues to claim or not claim regardless, not up to us.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:52 GMT

#2653

in summary, I'm gonna say this: those of us who have already claimed (hopeless1, me) or are gonna claim VT are not allowed to claim until blue(s) claim.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

November 18 2012 07:53 GMT

#2654

EBWOP: another blue claims, rather

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 18 2012 07:58 GMT

#2655

Okay. I agree with the fact that blues should choose whether to claim or not.
If they plan on claiming, during the resolution would be the best time.
If a blue claims during resolution, remaining blues (if they exist) should claim and all the vt's should claim.

What do you think, Djo?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 18 2012 08:00 GMT

#2656

I now have a town read on blazing because he completely disregarded a possibility of there being 4 blues. Scum fake claiming would not do this.

Djodref

France3332 Posts

November 18 2012 08:04 GMT

#2657

On November 18 2012 16:52 Blazinghand wrote:
4 blues like high-quality blues, like JK Vigi DT DT? I'd be pretty surprised if that was the setup, but if it's possible according to the setup generator whatever. Really though, it should be up to the blues to claim or not claim regardless, not up to us.

@ BH

Actually, having 1 Cop takes two "C" letters and having 2 Cop takes four "C" letters in the 7 letters set that defines our game. So we don't have two cops for sure.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 18 2012 08:06 GMT

#2658

Djo it depends on how it's modified, seeing as 1 shot cops dont exist.
But I think we're done with setup speculation for now, if you agree with my conclusion.

On November 18 2012 16:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Okay. I agree with the fact that blues should choose whether to claim or not.
If they plan on claiming, during the resolution would be the best time.
If a blue claims during resolution, remaining blues (if they exist) should claim and all the vt's should claim.

What do you think, Djo?